Liz Truss Ex-Prime Minister

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S600BSB

6,583 posts

120 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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Pitre said:
I never thought I would vote Labour, but it looks like the most effective option. What a sad state of affairs.
It’s the only way to get rid of her! Remember:


L1OFF

3,505 posts

270 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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This Sky piece in Truss's constituency suggests there's a groundswell of opinion against her and that she might lose the seat. Labour candidate Jermy – who does seem like a nice guy – says he didn't write a victory speech when he put in for the seat but he's written one now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au0N0T6H104
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My bolds above. I think that's an excellent thing - most people love a good local MP, which is what we have here by all accounts. He's a Tory though, so he won't get my vote in this election.

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A friend of my wife had to surrender her driving license due to a health issue, her GP eventually gave her the all clear so she reapplied to the DVLA for her license (runs her own business) and was getting nowhere and given the run around. She emailed her constituency MP (Jacob Rees Mogg) who replied to her email with a statement that he would speak to the minister of transport, phoned her personally within the next couple of days to tell her it was all sorted and the license was being returned. She received it 3 days later.

hidetheelephants

30,121 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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S600BSB said:
Pitre said:
I never thought I would vote Labour, but it looks like the most effective option. What a sad state of affairs.
It’s the only way to get rid of her! Remember:

They made her PM, the tory party deserves to be burnt to the ground.

mikeiow

7,097 posts

144 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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tangerine_sedge said:
I've got nothing to add to this thread, other than every time I see the title, it's a little reminder of why the Tories need to be voted out.
I have to say I have been broadly a ‘conservative’ person most of my life, but after the last 14 years and the Truss debacle in particular, I have to agree with you.
I do appreciate most politicians are bloody awful, but sometimes you just have to change them. As a wise man once said, change your politicians like you change babies, and for much the same reason…

https://www.getvoting.org/tactical-voting can be a useful tool for selecting your next tool hehe

hairykrishna

13,958 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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xstian said:
It either Jermy or Bagge. Neither are really who Id want to vote for, but I really want to see Truss out, so it’ll probably have to be Jermy. He’s a nice enough guy and to be fair to him, you can often find him litter picking etc around town, but I feel that’s probably where his limits are, local rather than national and thats not such a bad thing. But on the other hand you have Truss, so no contest really.
If only Truss's limits had stayed local. It's astonishing to me me that her seat is projected to be a close run thing. Who's voting for her?

B'stard Child

30,211 posts

260 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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hairykrishna said:
xstian said:
It either Jermy or Bagge. Neither are really who Id want to vote for, but I really want to see Truss out, so it’ll probably have to be Jermy. He’s a nice enough guy and to be fair to him, you can often find him litter picking etc around town, but I feel that’s probably where his limits are, local rather than national and thats not such a bad thing. But on the other hand you have Truss, so no contest really.
If only Truss's limits had stayed local. It's astonishing to me me that her seat is projected to be a close run thing. Who's voting for her?
She had a 26,000 majority last election - it’s been a safe Tory seat for decades (which is why she was parachuted in -no idea why she was considered a good candidate)

xstian

2,088 posts

160 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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hairykrishna said:
xstian said:
It either Jermy or Bagge. Neither are really who Id want to vote for, but I really want to see Truss out, so it’ll probably have to be Jermy. He’s a nice enough guy and to be fair to him, you can often find him litter picking etc around town, but I feel that’s probably where his limits are, local rather than national and thats not such a bad thing. But on the other hand you have Truss, so no contest really.
If only Truss's limits had stayed local. It's astonishing to me me that her seat is projected to be a close run thing. Who's voting for her?
My mother in law votes Conservative at every election because that's who her father voted for (dead for more than 30 years). If you asked her now, she wouldn't be able to name who her Conservative candidate is. She is just voting for Conservative.

oyster

13,128 posts

262 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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hairykrishna said:
xstian said:
It either Jermy or Bagge. Neither are really who Id want to vote for, but I really want to see Truss out, so it’ll probably have to be Jermy. He’s a nice enough guy and to be fair to him, you can often find him litter picking etc around town, but I feel that’s probably where his limits are, local rather than national and thats not such a bad thing. But on the other hand you have Truss, so no contest really.
If only Truss's limits had stayed local. It's astonishing to me me that her seat is projected to be a close run thing. Who's voting for her?
I suspect a very large rump of their continual voting base is pensioners - keen on maintaining a good thing that they've had for 14 years. Inflation-busting pay rises, protected assets etc.

Carl_VivaEspana

14,501 posts

276 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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NRS said:
No one has done that for decades, and there has been no real growth to speak of in that time when the more right leaning side of British politics has been in power.
This is the Liz Truss thread through right/ the tax and spend policies were to generate growth, cut the public sector and it was refuted as heresy.

There was a post earlier about who would vote for her and why, I think the question is more broadly, a rhetorical question

a) Do you want tax rises and spending cuts that represent 9-10% of GDP? Approx. 100-120bn
b) Do you want to grow the economy by 10% to level the books?

The country has voted for a) without even thinking about it, as there was no debate, the debate is happening past-tense.



S600BSB

6,583 posts

120 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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oyster said:
hairykrishna said:
xstian said:
It either Jermy or Bagge. Neither are really who Id want to vote for, but I really want to see Truss out, so it’ll probably have to be Jermy. He’s a nice enough guy and to be fair to him, you can often find him litter picking etc around town, but I feel that’s probably where his limits are, local rather than national and thats not such a bad thing. But on the other hand you have Truss, so no contest really.
If only Truss's limits had stayed local. It's astonishing to me me that her seat is projected to be a close run thing. Who's voting for her?
I suspect a very large rump of their continual voting base is pensioners - keen on maintaining a good thing that they've had for 14 years. Inflation-busting pay rises, protected assets etc.
Hasn’t Norfolk got the oldest population in the UK?

B'stard Child

30,211 posts

260 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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S600BSB said:
Hasn’t Norfolk got the oldest population in the UK?
East anglia way behind south east and quite a few other areas in terms of median age of population

Not sure by county if Norfolk is an outlier

All the “immigrants” on the north norfolk coast probably drive it up a bit (immigrants = retired people leaving london and other metropolitan areas)

B'stard Child

30,211 posts

260 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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B'stard Child said:
S600BSB said:
Hasn’t Norfolk got the oldest population in the UK?
East anglia way behind south east and quite a few other areas in terms of median age of population

Not sure by county if Norfolk is an outlier

All the “immigrants” on the north norfolk coast probably drive it up a bit (immigrants = retired people leaving london and other metropolitan areas)
Just checked - North Norfolk has the oldest population but overall east anglia is 6th in the table of median ages in the UK by region

S600BSB

6,583 posts

120 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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B'stard Child said:
B'stard Child said:
S600BSB said:
Hasn’t Norfolk got the oldest population in the UK?
East anglia way behind south east and quite a few other areas in terms of median age of population

Not sure by county if Norfolk is an outlier

All the “immigrants” on the north norfolk coast probably drive it up a bit (immigrants = retired people leaving london and other metropolitan areas)
Just checked - North Norfolk has the oldest population but overall east anglia is 6th in the table of median ages in the UK by region
Love North Norfolk.

xstian

2,088 posts

160 months

Tuesday 25th June 2024
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B'stard Child said:
B'stard Child said:
S600BSB said:
Hasn’t Norfolk got the oldest population in the UK?
East anglia way behind south east and quite a few other areas in terms of median age of population

Not sure by county if Norfolk is an outlier

All the “immigrants” on the north norfolk coast probably drive it up a bit (immigrants = retired people leaving london and other metropolitan areas)
Just checked - North Norfolk has the oldest population but overall east anglia is 6th in the table of median ages in the UK by region
I think N Norfolk where LibDem until 2019, so not sure what that says?

Pitre

5,277 posts

248 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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For the record, Truss is MP for south west Norfolk...

B'stard Child

30,211 posts

260 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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Pitre said:
For the record, Truss is WAS MP for south west Norfolk...
Edited for Hope

xstian

2,088 posts

160 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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Pitre said:
For the record, Truss is MP for south west Norfolk...
Yes I know. We were just talking about the average age of Norfolk residents.

B'stard Child

30,211 posts

260 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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No idea of sample size - probably less than 1000


hidetheelephants

30,121 posts

207 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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Did she bet on herself to outlast the lettuce? hehe

Pitre

5,277 posts

248 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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hidetheelephants said:
Did she bet on herself to outlast the lettuce? hehe
Nobody would be that daft.