Liz Truss Prime Minister

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Carl_VivaEspana

12,442 posts

264 months

Monday 24th June
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The country doesn't need memes about people who gave the country answers, it needs clear policies for private sector growth to be outlined and implemented along with a 10% cut to all public spending.

We are not going to get the truth until the budget arrives and the memes won't mean much as Labour will be in power and expected to do something.

The suspicion is that the left in the UK is very good at memes and less good at effective policy implementation in the private sector that grows the non-public sector side of the economy.


NRS

22,345 posts

203 months

Monday 24th June
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Carl_VivaEspana said:
The country doesn't need memes about people who gave the country answers, it needs clear policies for private sector growth to be outlined and implemented along with a 10% cut to all public spending.

We are not going to get the truth until the budget arrives and the memes won't mean much as Labour will be in power and expected to do something.

The suspicion is that the left in the UK is very good at memes and less good at effective policy implementation in the private sector that grows the non-public sector side of the economy.
No one has done that for decades, and there has been no real growth to speak of in that time when the more right leaning side of British politics has been in power.

S600BSB

5,542 posts

108 months

Monday 24th June
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NRS said:
Carl_VivaEspana said:
The country doesn't need memes about people who gave the country answers, it needs clear policies for private sector growth to be outlined and implemented along with a 10% cut to all public spending.

We are not going to get the truth until the budget arrives and the memes won't mean much as Labour will be in power and expected to do something.

The suspicion is that the left in the UK is very good at memes and less good at effective policy implementation in the private sector that grows the non-public sector side of the economy.
No one has done that for decades, and there has been no real growth to speak of in that time when the more right leaning side of British politics has been in power.
Indeed - 14 years of Tory flatlining. Although no idea what memes have got to do with anything! Haha

Pitre

4,723 posts

236 months

Monday 24th June
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Liz Truss is my MP. If anyone can credibly advise how I should vote tactically to get rid of her please shout.

S600BSB

5,542 posts

108 months

Monday 24th June
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Pitre said:
Liz Truss is my MP. If anyone can credibly advise how I should vote tactically to get rid of her please shout.
That’s easy in South West Norfolk - vote Labour. Most recent polling has Truss neck and neck with her Labour opponent. You might make all the difference!

https://www.getvoting.org/constituency/E14001497

B'stard Child

28,670 posts

248 months

Monday 24th June
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Pitre said:
Liz Truss is my MP. If anyone can credibly advise how I should vote tactically to get rid of her please shout.
Depends if you voted for her last time..... I did reluctantly cos she's an invisible constituency MP IMO

So if you did - don't this time - vote for anyone else or even spoil your paper thereby depriving her of one of her 26,195 votes from last time

If you didn't then tactically it's got to be the Labour candidate - Jermy isn't my cup of tea for a lot of reasons so I can't vote for him

IanH755

1,886 posts

122 months

Monday 24th June
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B'stard Child said:
Pitre said:
Liz Truss is my MP. If anyone can credibly advise how I should vote tactically to get rid of her please shout.
Depends if you voted for her last time..... I did reluctantly cos she's an invisible constituency MP IMO

So if you did - don't this time - vote for anyone else or even spoil your paper thereby depriving her of one of her 26,195 votes from last time

If you didn't then tactically it's got to be the Labour candidate - Jermy isn't my cup of tea for a lot of reasons so I can't vote for him
I'm picking an Independent as I can't Vote for Truss, can't abide Labour or Reform and want someone who actually cares about local issues for a change. Not that any Independent will win, but its one less vote for Truss.

xstian

1,985 posts

148 months

Monday 24th June
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B'stard Child said:
Pitre said:
Liz Truss is my MP. If anyone can credibly advise how I should vote tactically to get rid of her please shout.
Depends if you voted for her last time..... I did reluctantly cos she's an invisible constituency MP IMO

So if you did - don't this time - vote for anyone else or even spoil your paper thereby depriving her of one of her 26,195 votes from last time

If you didn't then tactically it's got to be the Labour candidate - Jermy isn't my cup of tea for a lot of reasons so I can't vote for him
It either Jermy or Bagge. Neither are really who Id want to vote for, but I really want to see Truss out, so it’ll probably have to be Jermy. He’s a nice enough guy and to be fair to him, you can often find him litter picking etc around town, but I feel that’s probably where his limits are, local rather than national and thats not such a bad thing. But on the other hand you have Truss, so no contest really.


Blackpuddin

16,746 posts

207 months

Tuesday
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xstian said:
B'stard Child said:
Pitre said:
Liz Truss is my MP. If anyone can credibly advise how I should vote tactically to get rid of her please shout.
Depends if you voted for her last time..... I did reluctantly cos she's an invisible constituency MP IMO

So if you did - don't this time - vote for anyone else or even spoil your paper thereby depriving her of one of her 26,195 votes from last time

If you didn't then tactically it's got to be the Labour candidate - Jermy isn't my cup of tea for a lot of reasons so I can't vote for him
It either Jermy or Bagge. Neither are really who Id want to vote for, but I really want to see Truss out, so it’ll probably have to be Jermy. He’s a nice enough guy and to be fair to him, you can often find him litter picking etc around town, but I feel that’s probably where his limits are, local rather than national and thats not such a bad thing. But on the other hand you have Truss, so no contest really.
This Sky piece in Truss's constituency suggests there's a groundswell of opinion against her and that she might lose the seat. Labour candidate Jermy – who does seem like a nice guy – says he didn't write a victory speech when he put in for the seat but he's written one now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au0N0T6H104

uk66fastback

16,650 posts

273 months

Tuesday
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Blackpuddin said:
xstian said:
B'stard Child said:
Pitre said:
Liz Truss is my MP. If anyone can credibly advise how I should vote tactically to get rid of her please shout.
Depends if you voted for her last time..... I did reluctantly cos she's an invisible constituency MP IMO

So if you did - don't this time - vote for anyone else or even spoil your paper thereby depriving her of one of her 26,195 votes from last time

If you didn't then tactically it's got to be the Labour candidate - Jermy isn't my cup of tea for a lot of reasons so I can't vote for him
It either Jermy or Bagge. Neither are really who Id want to vote for, but I really want to see Truss out, so it’ll probably have to be Jermy. He’s a nice enough guy and to be fair to him, you can often find him litter picking etc around town, but I feel that’s probably where his limits are, local rather than national and thats not such a bad thing. But on the other hand you have Truss, so no contest really.
This Sky piece in Truss's constituency suggests there's a groundswell of opinion against her and that she might lose the seat. Labour candidate Jermy – who does seem like a nice guy – says he didn't write a victory speech when he put in for the seat but he's written one now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au0N0T6H104
My bolds above. I think that's an excellent thing - most people love a good local MP, which is what we have here by all accounts. He's a Tory though, so he won't get my vote in this election.

Pitre

4,723 posts

236 months

Tuesday
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Blackpuddin said:
xstian said:
B'stard Child said:
Pitre said:
Liz Truss is my MP. If anyone can credibly advise how I should vote tactically to get rid of her please shout.
Depends if you voted for her last time..... I did reluctantly cos she's an invisible constituency MP IMO

So if you did - don't this time - vote for anyone else or even spoil your paper thereby depriving her of one of her 26,195 votes from last time

If you didn't then tactically it's got to be the Labour candidate - Jermy isn't my cup of tea for a lot of reasons so I can't vote for him
It either Jermy or Bagge. Neither are really who Id want to vote for, but I really want to see Truss out, so it’ll probably have to be Jermy. He’s a nice enough guy and to be fair to him, you can often find him litter picking etc around town, but I feel that’s probably where his limits are, local rather than national and thats not such a bad thing. But on the other hand you have Truss, so no contest really.
This Sky piece in Truss's constituency suggests there's a groundswell of opinion against her and that she might lose the seat. Labour candidate Jermy – who does seem like a nice guy – says he didn't write a victory speech when he put in for the seat but he's written one now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au0N0T6H104
I never thought I would vote Labour, but it looks like the most effective option. What a sad state of affairs.

S600BSB

5,542 posts

108 months

Tuesday
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Pitre said:
I never thought I would vote Labour, but it looks like the most effective option. What a sad state of affairs.
It’s the only way to get rid of her! Remember:


L1OFF

3,368 posts

258 months

Tuesday
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This Sky piece in Truss's constituency suggests there's a groundswell of opinion against her and that she might lose the seat. Labour candidate Jermy – who does seem like a nice guy – says he didn't write a victory speech when he put in for the seat but he's written one now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au0N0T6H104
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My bolds above. I think that's an excellent thing - most people love a good local MP, which is what we have here by all accounts. He's a Tory though, so he won't get my vote in this election.

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A friend of my wife had to surrender her driving license due to a health issue, her GP eventually gave her the all clear so she reapplied to the DVLA for her license (runs her own business) and was getting nowhere and given the run around. She emailed her constituency MP (Jacob Rees Mogg) who replied to her email with a statement that he would speak to the minister of transport, phoned her personally within the next couple of days to tell her it was all sorted and the license was being returned. She received it 3 days later.

hidetheelephants

25,725 posts

195 months

Tuesday
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S600BSB said:
Pitre said:
I never thought I would vote Labour, but it looks like the most effective option. What a sad state of affairs.
It’s the only way to get rid of her! Remember:

They made her PM, the tory party deserves to be burnt to the ground.

mikeiow

5,551 posts

132 months

Tuesday
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tangerine_sedge said:
I've got nothing to add to this thread, other than every time I see the title, it's a little reminder of why the Tories need to be voted out.
I have to say I have been broadly a ‘conservative’ person most of my life, but after the last 14 years and the Truss debacle in particular, I have to agree with you.
I do appreciate most politicians are bloody awful, but sometimes you just have to change them. As a wise man once said, change your politicians like you change babies, and for much the same reason…

https://www.getvoting.org/tactical-voting can be a useful tool for selecting your next tool hehe

hairykrishna

13,251 posts

205 months

Tuesday
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xstian said:
It either Jermy or Bagge. Neither are really who Id want to vote for, but I really want to see Truss out, so it’ll probably have to be Jermy. He’s a nice enough guy and to be fair to him, you can often find him litter picking etc around town, but I feel that’s probably where his limits are, local rather than national and thats not such a bad thing. But on the other hand you have Truss, so no contest really.
If only Truss's limits had stayed local. It's astonishing to me me that her seat is projected to be a close run thing. Who's voting for her?

B'stard Child

28,670 posts

248 months

Tuesday
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hairykrishna said:
xstian said:
It either Jermy or Bagge. Neither are really who Id want to vote for, but I really want to see Truss out, so it’ll probably have to be Jermy. He’s a nice enough guy and to be fair to him, you can often find him litter picking etc around town, but I feel that’s probably where his limits are, local rather than national and thats not such a bad thing. But on the other hand you have Truss, so no contest really.
If only Truss's limits had stayed local. It's astonishing to me me that her seat is projected to be a close run thing. Who's voting for her?
She had a 26,000 majority last election - it’s been a safe Tory seat for decades (which is why she was parachuted in -no idea why she was considered a good candidate)

xstian

1,985 posts

148 months

Tuesday
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hairykrishna said:
xstian said:
It either Jermy or Bagge. Neither are really who Id want to vote for, but I really want to see Truss out, so it’ll probably have to be Jermy. He’s a nice enough guy and to be fair to him, you can often find him litter picking etc around town, but I feel that’s probably where his limits are, local rather than national and thats not such a bad thing. But on the other hand you have Truss, so no contest really.
If only Truss's limits had stayed local. It's astonishing to me me that her seat is projected to be a close run thing. Who's voting for her?
My mother in law votes Conservative at every election because that's who her father voted for (dead for more than 30 years). If you asked her now, she wouldn't be able to name who her Conservative candidate is. She is just voting for Conservative.

oyster

12,699 posts

250 months

Tuesday
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hairykrishna said:
xstian said:
It either Jermy or Bagge. Neither are really who Id want to vote for, but I really want to see Truss out, so it’ll probably have to be Jermy. He’s a nice enough guy and to be fair to him, you can often find him litter picking etc around town, but I feel that’s probably where his limits are, local rather than national and thats not such a bad thing. But on the other hand you have Truss, so no contest really.
If only Truss's limits had stayed local. It's astonishing to me me that her seat is projected to be a close run thing. Who's voting for her?
I suspect a very large rump of their continual voting base is pensioners - keen on maintaining a good thing that they've had for 14 years. Inflation-busting pay rises, protected assets etc.

Carl_VivaEspana

12,442 posts

264 months

Tuesday
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NRS said:
No one has done that for decades, and there has been no real growth to speak of in that time when the more right leaning side of British politics has been in power.
This is the Liz Truss thread through right/ the tax and spend policies were to generate growth, cut the public sector and it was refuted as heresy.

There was a post earlier about who would vote for her and why, I think the question is more broadly, a rhetorical question

a) Do you want tax rises and spending cuts that represent 9-10% of GDP? Approx. 100-120bn
b) Do you want to grow the economy by 10% to level the books?

The country has voted for a) without even thinking about it, as there was no debate, the debate is happening past-tense.