Elon Musk $41B offer for Twitter

Elon Musk $41B offer for Twitter

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durbster

10,400 posts

225 months

Wednesday 26th June
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h0b0 said:
Oh dear. Has he been hacked or am I going crazy?
Blimey I see what you mean, just had a quick look and it absolutely looks like crypto scammers have got hold of the Tesla YouTube account.

EddieSteadyGo

12,363 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th June
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h0b0 said:
Oh dear. Has he been hacked or am I going crazy?
That isn't the "Tesla" account. It is a spoofed youtube account designed to steal crypto. It is named "@tesla.elonstream"

This is the official account:

https://www.youtube.com/@tesla/

h0b0

7,812 posts

199 months

Wednesday 26th June
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EddieSteadyGo said:
h0b0 said:
Oh dear. Has he been hacked or am I going crazy?
That isn't the "Tesla" account. It is a spoofed youtube account designed to steal crypto. It is named "@tesla.elonstream"

This is the official account:

https://www.youtube.com/@tesla/
Yes, I see that now. There was some oddity going on when I first posted because they were able to link to the official channel.

dobbo_

14,569 posts

251 months

Wednesday 26th June
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h0b0 said:
Elon live showing off his presenting skills
This has to be AI generated. It has to be. This can't be real?? (I know it's probably real)

EddieSteadyGo

12,363 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th June
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h0b0 said:
Yes, I see that now. There was some oddity going on when I first posted because they were able to link to the official channel.
Some scammer seems to have bought (or stolen) a youtube account "7NEWS Australia" and then repurposed it to look like Tesla's account. It is bound to trick some people. fking scammers....

h0b0

7,812 posts

199 months

Wednesday 26th June
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It started out with real Elon talking about ramping Semi truck production and we should be excited about the new model Y. It then jumped to the AI scam bot that is much better at presenting than Elon.

dobbo_

14,569 posts

251 months

Wednesday 26th June
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EddieSteadyGo said:
h0b0 said:
Yes, I see that now. There was some oddity going on when I first posted because they were able to link to the official channel.
Some scammer seems to have bought (or stolen) a youtube account "7NEWS Australia" and then repurposed it to look like Tesla's account. It is bound to trick some people. fking scammers....
Yeah I think Musk is a tt but I wasn't buying that.

EddieSteadyGo

12,363 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th June
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They do it on twitter too. Basically, hack or buy a twitter handle with a lot of followers and a blue tick, change the name to something which is available but superficially looks like Musk (by adding a few spaces or underscores to the twitter handle), then change the bio and avator image to look like Musk's current version, then reply to people on Musk's genuine twitter threads pushing the "two for one" crypto scam. It is very deceptive and easy to get tricked.

tangerine_sedge

4,934 posts

221 months

Wednesday 26th June
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Talksteer said:
Not really good examples, especially Microsoft which is currently the worlds most valuable company worth $3.4 trillion! Microsoft makes 45% of its operating profit from cloud computing compared to 18% from personal computing. IBM has a market cap of $160bn and is still a big player in the markets that it was in, it didn't lose money it just failed to take up future larger opportunities.
The bds went top the day after I posted that - a bad example indeed - lol. The point is that Microsoft owned the desktop for absolute years, but are not head and shoulders infront of other companies which are relatively new entrants. IBM are a shadow of what they were, again they held an unassailable position through the 60's, 70's and 80's but others (like Microsoft) came along and took their crown.

Talksteer said:
Nokia and Blackberry failed to make the right bets or failed on execution. Kodak invented digital photography decades ahead of time and were even an early mover in digital photography. Their long term issue was digital photography got bound into the smart phone eco-system a stand alone digital camera existed only for about 10 years. The correct strategy in hindsight was to move into something completely different using their existing skills which is what FujiFilm did.
Both of these were absolute dominant in their market place, and are substantially less important now for reasons.

The point is that these companies come, and they go. They get dominant in a market, make bad decisions then slide. Some bounce-back (Microsoft), but the tech market is littered with household names which don't actually make very much money anymore...

h0b0

7,812 posts

199 months

Wednesday 26th June
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EddieSteadyGo said:
h0b0 said:
Yes, I see that now. There was some oddity going on when I first posted because they were able to link to the official channel.
Some scammer seems to have bought (or stolen) a youtube account "7NEWS Australia" and then repurposed it to look like Tesla's account. It is bound to trick some people. fking scammers....
The fake Tesla channel now has 1.7M subscribers up from 800k when I last checked today.

durbster

10,400 posts

225 months

Wednesday 26th June
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EddieSteadyGo said:
h0b0 said:
Yes, I see that now. There was some oddity going on when I first posted because they were able to link to the official channel.
Some scammer seems to have bought (or stolen) a youtube account "7NEWS Australia" and then repurposed it to look like Tesla's account. It is bound to trick some people. fking scammers....
Yeah if you can't get into the real account then spoofing another verified account is a good alternative (except on Twitter, obv hehe)

Musk went big on crypto bks a few years ago (remember when you could buy a Tesla with Bitcoin? wobble) so he's the ideal target for this kind of deepfake scam. No doubt there's a few thousand dollars heading to these tts already.

EddieSteadyGo

12,363 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th June
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h0b0 said:
The fake Tesla channel now has 1.7M subscribers up from 800k when I last checked today.
That's quite astonishing. As generative AI video quality gets better, this is going to be nightmare.

durbster

10,400 posts

225 months

Wednesday 26th June
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At least it's still fairly easy to spot because the deepfake stream doesn't line up with the clip very well, but it is only going to get better.

thatsprettyshady

1,962 posts

168 months

Wednesday 26th June
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This is the same thing that was played when Linus Tech Tips was hacked, always the same thing. Hijack a million+ sub channel and scam away with the Musk AI.

dobbo_

14,569 posts

251 months

Wednesday 26th June
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EddieSteadyGo said:
h0b0 said:
The fake Tesla channel now has 1.7M subscribers up from 800k when I last checked today.
That's quite astonishing. As generative AI video quality gets better, this is going to be nightmare.
Luckily you can tell what is legitimate or not from a blue tick oh wait hehe

Here come the consequences of actions. Who could have guessed?

thatsprettyshady

1,962 posts

168 months

Wednesday 26th June
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dobbo_ said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
h0b0 said:
The fake Tesla channel now has 1.7M subscribers up from 800k when I last checked today.
That's quite astonishing. As generative AI video quality gets better, this is going to be nightmare.
Luckily you can tell what is legitimate or not from a blue tick oh wait hehe

Here come the consequences of actions. Who could have guessed?
It’s YouTube

dobbo_

14,569 posts

251 months

Wednesday 26th June
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thatsprettyshady said:
It’s YouTube
Yep. Luckily there is no fake AI content on Twitter.

EddieSteadyGo

12,363 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th June
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dobbo_ said:
Luckily you can tell what is legitimate or not from a blue tick oh wait hehe

Here come the consequences of actions. Who could have guessed?
I agree you can't be assured someone/thing is legitimate from the blue tick.

The proliferation of scamming and disinformation though is everywhere, not just on Twitter. I may have mentioned it before, but I was listening to a podcast with George Hotz (computer nerd, part-time entrepreneur, and someone who is occasionally insightful) and he thinks we will eventually all need our own AI (or LLM) to act as some kind of interface between us and the world to help us navigate and filter what is true/spin/false. Strange as it sounds, I think in 10 years he could well be right.

Baroque attacks

4,619 posts

189 months

Wednesday 26th June
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EddieSteadyGo said:
off_again said:
Is that all? Just checked and its 11,688 from November 13th to June 6th production - ouch, thats not a lot!
....
If you don't think that is pretty good, I'd love to work in your business... that is over $1bn in revenue, just from the Cybertruck.

ETA : And Ford were losing roughly $100,000 per EV they sold over the last quarter. Now that is a lot!

Edited by EddieSteadyGo on Tuesday 25th June 21:15
Careful now, comparing revenue with profit between competitors.

thatsprettyshady

1,962 posts

168 months

Wednesday 26th June
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dobbo_ said:
thatsprettyshady said:
It’s YouTube
Yep. Luckily there is no fake AI content on Twitter.
Nope, none at all hehe