Another dog attack

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Gargamel

15,094 posts

264 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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bmwmike said:
Tyre Tread said:
"Officers were called to Caterham, Surrey at about 14:25 GMT to a dog attacking members of the public." ...

"Surrey Police said armed officers attended the Gravelly Hill area and seized seven dogs in total."

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Possibly a dog walker with 7 dogs, one of them goes into maul-mode and kills the walker, thereby leaving 1 murder dog and 6 unattended and hence all have to be seized?
Pure speculation.

Might just as well say she was breaking into a guarded facility and the security dogs attacked her. Has as many facts behind it.




bmwmike

7,081 posts

111 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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Gargamel said:
Pure speculation.

Might just as well say she was breaking into a guarded facility and the security dogs attacked her. Has as many facts behind it.
Yes, pure speculation.

Venisonpie

3,372 posts

85 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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Gary29 said:
What a horrendous way to go getting mauled by a fking dog.

Seems to be way more unruly dogs knocking about now in my experience, I went to the beach last weekend and the amount of out of control dogs was surprising. Lots of fighting and owners screaming from 100 yards away, dogs taking no notice.

Probably a symptom of all the lockdown puppies, who knows.
It's becoming a real problem. I spend a lot of time walking and run three times a week and the situation you describe is sadly familiar. Most of the owners appear to be useless middle class cretins who have no idea how to control their dog and don't see a problem with it's unruly behaviour or even realise that it is unruly.
One chap's small dog started gnawing at my ankles a couple of weeks ago whilst out running so I stopped while he caught up. Dog still continuing to gnaw away (wasn't that painful but not pleasant) and he had that embarrassed smile they all do, calling his dog and shrugging while it ignored him completely. I asked him if he felt this was the situation represented a civilised society and was he a responsible human being - he just stood there gormless like they all do.

Having to be perpetually vigilant about these dogs is bloody awful and all down to entitled folk who don't take responsibility.


HTP99

22,796 posts

143 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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Gargamel said:
bmwmike said:
Tyre Tread said:
"Officers were called to Caterham, Surrey at about 14:25 GMT to a dog attacking members of the public." ...

"Surrey Police said armed officers attended the Gravelly Hill area and seized seven dogs in total."

confused
Possibly a dog walker with 7 dogs, one of them goes into maul-mode and kills the walker, thereby leaving 1 murder dog and 6 unattended and hence all have to be seized?
Pure speculation.

Might just as well say she was breaking into a guarded facility and the security dogs attacked her. Has as many facts behind it.
It is being reported that she was walking a number of dogs at the time, with the owners of these dogs having been identified and are being kept informed, so does sound like a dog walker.

adamfawsitt

527 posts

216 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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An interesting thread with some extraordinary views...

I am a dog owner and lover - I am very carful to make sure that my dog doesn't inconvenience others and always put him on a lead when I see another dog until we know the other hound is friendly.

I have for some time wondered what I would do in the event that a dog attached my dog and it happened a few weeks ago. My procedures are:

If the dog is attacking my dog:

1. Kick the attacking dog as hard in the ribs as you can (so that a large dog would be lifted off it's feet by the force) which should wind the dog and cause it to release it's hold
2. Grab the dog's collar with the palm of your hand facing down, turn your hand twisting the collar and lift the dog with your arm cutting off it's oxygen and forcing it to release - be careful when you release the dog as it will be angry!
3. If nothing else works then push the dogs eyes with your thumb as if you were trying to push it's eyeballs out (remember we are DEFCON max attack by this stage)

If the dog is attacking you;

1. Use 2 above
2. Use 3 above
3. Depending which end you have access to grab the dogs balls and twist very hard or punch the dogs nose very hard

To aid in both events I have bought chainmail gloves (used by chefs) to put on and avoid the problem that the OP's wife suffered (a puncture wound).

You will note that I don't use the lift the hind legs in the air method - large dogs can pivot on their front legs and bite you, their mouths if you use the method are at shin level and the damage would be extensive....

If anyone has other methods of defence / attack please share!

NMNeil

5,860 posts

53 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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And nothing will be done to curb dog ownership.
https://www.koat.com/article/roswell-spring-river-...
As for the best way to stop a dog attack, I believe my mate Jeff's handgun was 9mm
https://www.abqjournal.com/414476/roswell-boy-9-re...

Venisonpie

3,372 posts

85 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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adamfawsitt said:
An interesting thread with some extraordinary views...

I am a dog owner and lover - I am very carful to make sure that my dog doesn't inconvenience others and always put him on a lead when I see another dog until we know the other hound is friendly.

I have for some time wondered what I would do in the event that a dog attached my dog and it happened a few weeks ago. My procedures are:

If the dog is attacking my dog:

1. Kick the attacking dog as hard in the ribs as you can (so that a large dog would be lifted off it's feet by the force) which should wind the dog and cause it to release it's hold
2. Grab the dog's collar with the palm of your hand facing down, turn your hand twisting the collar and lift the dog with your arm cutting off it's oxygen and forcing it to release - be careful when you release the dog as it will be angry!
3. If nothing else works then push the dogs eyes with your thumb as if you were trying to push it's eyeballs out (remember we are DEFCON max attack by this stage)

If the dog is attacking you;

1. Use 2 above
2. Use 3 above
3. Depending which end you have access to grab the dogs balls and twist very hard or punch the dogs nose very hard

To aid in both events I have bought chainmail gloves (used by chefs) to put on and avoid the problem that the OP's wife suffered (a puncture wound).

You will note that I don't use the lift the hind legs in the air method - large dogs can pivot on their front legs and bite you, their mouths if you use the method are at shin level and the damage would be extensive....

If anyone has other methods of defence / attack please share!
I think any mitigating techniques would be very welcome!

It's a real shame as a well trained/ behaved dog is obviously a lovely companion and or member of a family.

joshcowin

6,827 posts

179 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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Venisonpie said:
It's becoming a real problem. I spend a lot of time walking and run three times a week and the situation you describe is sadly familiar. Most of the owners appear to be useless middle class cretins who have no idea how to control their dog and don't see a problem with it's unruly behaviour or even realise that it is unruly.
One chap's small dog started gnawing at my ankles a couple of weeks ago whilst out running so I stopped while he caught up. Dog still continuing to gnaw away (wasn't that painful but not pleasant) and he had that embarrassed smile they all do, calling his dog and shrugging while it ignored him completely. I asked him if he felt this was the situation represented a civilised society and was he a responsible human being - he just stood there gormless like they all do.

Having to be perpetually vigilant about these dogs is bloody awful and all down to entitled folk who don't take responsibility.
You sound like an interesting human!

For counter balance I run daily (2000km last year), live opposite a park and encounter loads of dogs and their owners, never had any issues what so ever!

Turkish91

1,092 posts

205 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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bmwmike said:
Need to get that dangerous dogs list updated asap.
To include which dogs?

NMNeil

5,860 posts

53 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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Turkish91 said:
bmwmike said:
Need to get that dangerous dogs list updated asap.
To include which dogs?
All of them, because they're all dangerous.
https://nypost.com/2022/12/23/newborn-baby-in-arka...

joshcowin

6,827 posts

179 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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Cows kill more people than dogs in the UK.

85Carrera

3,503 posts

240 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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adamfawsitt said:
An interesting thread with some extraordinary views...

I am a dog owner and lover - I am very carful to make sure that my dog doesn't inconvenience others and always put him on a lead when I see another dog until we know the other hound is friendly.

I have for some time wondered what I would do in the event that a dog attached my dog and it happened a few weeks ago. My procedures are:

If the dog is attacking my dog:

1. Kick the attacking dog as hard in the ribs as you can (so that a large dog would be lifted off it's feet by the force) which should wind the dog and cause it to release it's hold
2. Grab the dog's collar with the palm of your hand facing down, turn your hand twisting the collar and lift the dog with your arm cutting off it's oxygen and forcing it to release - be careful when you release the dog as it will be angry!
3. If nothing else works then push the dogs eyes with your thumb as if you were trying to push it's eyeballs out (remember we are DEFCON max attack by this stage)

If the dog is attacking you;

1. Use 2 above
2. Use 3 above
3. Depending which end you have access to grab the dogs balls and twist very hard or punch the dogs nose very hard

To aid in both events I have bought chainmail gloves (used by chefs) to put on and avoid the problem that the OP's wife suffered (a puncture wound).

You will note that I don't use the lift the hind legs in the air method - large dogs can pivot on their front legs and bite you, their mouths if you use the method are at shin level and the damage would be extensive....

If anyone has other methods of defence / attack please share!
Is this a parody post?

Kes Arevo

3,555 posts

42 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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NMNeil said:
All of them, because they're all dangerous.
https://nypost.com/2022/12/23/newborn-baby-in-arka...
Your ability to judge risk is whacked.

85Carrera

3,503 posts

240 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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Turkish91 said:
bmwmike said:
Need to get that dangerous dogs list updated asap.
To include which dogs?
Labradors smile

Kes Arevo

3,555 posts

42 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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mac96

3,977 posts

146 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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joshcowin said:
Cows kill more people than dogs in the UK.
I have not met a cow in the street for many years though. Most of those killed by cows will either be working with them or have chosen to approach them. For most of us, unlike dogs, they are easily avoided.

NMNeil

5,860 posts

53 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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Kes Arevo said:
NMNeil said:
All of them, because they're all dangerous.
https://nypost.com/2022/12/23/newborn-baby-in-arka...
Your ability to judge risk is whacked.
My ability is fine, unfortunately others don't have the ability to judge risk.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-6...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshir...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/mar/21/ba...
There are far too many to post, but you get the idea, children and dog's don't mix.



Kes Arevo

3,555 posts

42 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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Bad things happen all the time, for any number of things. It's a big population,with a big exposure to dogs. You can post any number of articles of bad things happening, but you can do that with pretty much anything.

For the states, but the point stands...

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/preventab...

Edited by Kes Arevo on Friday 13th January 20:11

NMNeil

5,860 posts

53 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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Kes Arevo said:
Surprisingly Chihuahua's are not as benign as you might think.
https://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/sf-final-data-dog-bit...

Kes Arevo

3,555 posts

42 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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FFS.