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tr7v8

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7,623 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Just watching this now on BBC2, started 19:00 finishes at 20:00.Absolutely fantastic about the women delivery pilots of the Air Transport Auxiliary. I didn't realise that 1 in 10 were lost, frequently due to weather.

4sure

2,438 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Yes ,lots of things new to me.

fadeaway

1,463 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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always thought the scariest bit was that they were flying a fighter plane hoping they didn't bump into the enemy ... given that not only weren't they trained it air-to-air combat, but they flew with the guns unloaded eek


and they were sometimes delivering these planes directly to the front line in France!

4sure

2,438 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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brilliant tv.

Ed5995

184 posts

216 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Just finished watching it too - what brilliant women and so modest too. I never knew many came from distant parts of the world to serve in the ATA. Bless them.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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tr7v8 said:
about the women delivery pilots of the Air Transport Auxiliary. I didn't realise that 1 in 10 were lost,
They got lost?

Meoricin

2,880 posts

199 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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el stovey said:
tr7v8 said:
about the women delivery pilots of the Air Transport Auxiliary. I didn't realise that 1 in 10 were lost,
They got lost?
What do you expect - they didn't have satnav or a man to read the map for them.

Gillet

639 posts

239 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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I found the most amazing bit was that they didnt even get training on how to fly most of the planes, so they might jump from a Spitfire into a Lancaster Bomber and all they had for instructions was a little book, incredible stuff.

tr7v8

Original Poster:

7,623 posts

258 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Gillet said:
I found the most amazing bit was that they didnt even get training on how to fly most of the planes, so they might jump from a Spitfire into a Lancaster Bomber and all they had for instructions was a little book, incredible stuff.
One of the ladies reading a log book, lists 4 different types of aircraft flown on one day, then 4 different types flown the next day. Sarcastic voice over "so it wasn't THAT busy then" Lady without batting an eyelid says "No a pretty quiet period" biggrin

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Meoricin said:
el stovey said:
tr7v8 said:
about the women delivery pilots of the Air Transport Auxiliary. I didn't realise that 1 in 10 were lost,
They got lost?
What do you expect - they didn't have satnav or a man to read the map for them.
Harsh. biggrin

Flying was a dangerous game back then, and you have to remember those planes were not designed to be easy to handle for pilots without much type experience.

CivicMan

2,211 posts

231 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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tr7v8 said:
Gillet said:
I found the most amazing bit was that they didnt even get training on how to fly most of the planes, so they might jump from a Spitfire into a Lancaster Bomber and all they had for instructions was a little book, incredible stuff.
One of the ladies reading a log book, lists 4 different types of aircraft flown on one day, then 4 different types flown the next day. Sarcastic voice over "so it wasn't THAT busy then" Lady without batting an eyelid says "No a pretty quiet period" biggrin
From his intonation, I got the feeling he was joking as did the lady.

thatone1967

4,252 posts

221 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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My late uncle was based at Heston Airport during the war and was a spitfire mechanic.
I remember him telling me about a "wheels up" Spitfire landing of an aircraft that was being delivered, he said it was some of most amazing flying he had ever seen, there was apparently hardly any damage to the aircraft.

Not seen this yet, but looking forward to it.

Wacky Racer

41,381 posts

277 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Actually many Spitfire's were lost due to engine failure, due to the Merlin engines conking out, due to running over rich because the women pilots had a habit of hanging their handbags on the pull out choke lever.

This is one of the lesser known facts of WW2.

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Gillet said:
I found the most amazing bit was that they didnt even get training on how to fly most of the planes, so they might jump from a Spitfire into a Lancaster Bomber and all they had for instructions was a little book, incredible stuff.
That was the case for the men pilots too - especially those who flew single seat fighters. There were no two seat trainer Mustangs, Spitfires or Hurricanes in WW2.

And don't forget that 90% of the ATA were male. They are beginning to be overlooked as the emphasis seems to be now on the female comntribution to the ATA.

Good documentary all the same - one of the best of the recent batch.

Riff Raff

5,462 posts

225 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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One of the ladies said she had flown 80+ different types according to her log book. I wonder how many pilots today could say the same thing? Good programme, I thought.

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Riff Raff said:
One of the ladies said she had flown 80+ different types according to her log book. I wonder how many pilots today could say the same thing? Good programme, I thought.
Circumstances.

There are delivery pilots around today who have impressive numbers of types in their log books.

pacman1

7,324 posts

223 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Wacky Racer said:
Actually many Spitfire's were lost due to engine failure, due to the Merlin engines conking out, due to running over rich because the women pilots had a habit of hanging their handbags on the pull out choke lever.

This is one of the lesser known facts of WW2.
Watched a programme some time back about Charles Linbergh. During WWII, and despite never being in the air force, he was attached to a P38 squadron in the Far East, and from his experiences with long distant flight, he was able to produce a list of mixture settings that almost doubled the range of these escort fighters. In order to achieve this, he was allowed to fly combat missions even though he was a civilian.

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Many "celebs" helped out during the war. Many were given honorary ranks in the military. I would guess that Lindberg was not given a rank (or declined to accept one) because of his pacifist and isolationist leanings.

He ended up being rescued from the Pacific when the B-17 he was a passenger in ditched.