Recasting a Perfectly Cast Role.
Recasting a Perfectly Cast Role.
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SpudLink

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Monday 10th August
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Sometimes an actor is so suited to the character, people say they can’t imagine anyone else.
So let’s try and recast an actor who was perfect in an iconic role.

I will start with a tough one. Robert Downey Junior as Iron Man. It was like he was born to play Tony Stark. He was so good they built a multi billion dollar franchise around him.
But suppose he turned down the role.

My first thought was Pierce Brosnan. He has the charm and looks of the comic book Stark. I reckon he could have worked. But was probably too old at the time.

So I am going to suggest Christian Bale. He was already playing a billionaire superhero at the time, and proved he can carry a franchise.
A very different actor. Undoubtedly if he had been given the role, the MCU might have headed in a more serious direction from the start.
But I reckon it could have worked.

SpudLink

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8,113 posts

221 months

Monday 10th August
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Also, Christian Bale and Ed Norton as Tony Stark and Bruce Banner in the Avengers films would have been interesting.

shirt

25,364 posts

230 months

Monday 10th August
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You just need a lot of charisma for that role. Di caprio could have done it in spades - think how he was in the aviator era.

A bit younger - alden ehrenreich.

A lot more similar - sam Rockwell.

nordboy

3,355 posts

79 months

Monday 10th August
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Captain Jack Sparrow - Johnny Depp. I honestly can't think of anyone else who would have been as good for that role? I do wonder if that was the way they envisioned the character to be played or whether that was pretty much all him.

Antony Moxey

10,659 posts

248 months

Monday 10th August
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SpudLink said:
Sometimes an actor is so suited to the character, people say they can t imagine anyone else.
So let s try and recast an actor who was perfect in an iconic role.

I will start with a tough one. Robert Downey Junior as Iron Man. It was like he was born to play Tony Stark. He was so good they built a multi billion dollar franchise around him.
But suppose he turned down the role.
It's a funny one this: suppose they'd cast Steve Evans as Iron Man and Robert Downey Junior as Captain America, would we all be saying they were miscast and should have been the other way round? I guess you just get used to them in those roles so it's difficult to see someone else doing the same role. I find it interesting too seeing some of the names pop up that are offered roles before the one that finally gets it and makes it famous.

Anyway, I digress. Sorry!

MCBrowncoat

1,736 posts

175 months

Monday 10th August
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Antony Moxey said:
SpudLink said:
Sometimes an actor is so suited to the character, people say they can t imagine anyone else.
So let s try and recast an actor who was perfect in an iconic role.

I will start with a tough one. Robert Downey Junior as Iron Man. It was like he was born to play Tony Stark. He was so good they built a multi billion dollar franchise around him.
But suppose he turned down the role.
It's a funny one this: suppose they'd cast Steve Evans as Iron Man and Robert Downey Junior as Captain America, would we all be saying they were miscast and should have been the other way round? I guess you just get used to them in those roles so it's difficult to see someone else doing the same role. I find it interesting too seeing some of the names pop up that are offered roles before the one that finally gets it and makes it famous.

Anyway, I digress. Sorry!
Totally agree, there's no split test, so we never know, can only imagine. I can't think that Heat would work as well if Al and Bob had been cast in the others role... but they could have done it, they're both capable, it's just ingrained because that's all we know. They would have just played it a different way.

I mean - can anyone imagine anyone doing Tony Soprano better than Gandolfini? That's right up there as being one of the most perfect castings of all time, imho. The funny thing being he wasn't actually that famous when the show started.

nordboy

3,355 posts

79 months

Monday 10th August
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Antony Moxey said:
It's a funny one this: suppose they'd cast Steve Evans as Iron Man and Robert Downey Junior as Captain America, would we all be saying they were miscast and should have been the other way round? I guess you just get used to them in those roles so it's difficult to see someone else doing the same role. I find it interesting too seeing some of the names pop up that are offered roles before the one that finally gets it and makes it famous.

Anyway, I digress. Sorry!
Or maybe Chris Evans instead of Steve Evans might have been better? winkbiggrin

ajprice

33,196 posts

225 months

Monday 10th August
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Ryan Reynolds - Deadpool. It was written in the comics 10 years before the CGI test 'leak' in 2014 that led to the Deadpool movie in 2016, complete with a typo on his name hehe.

Cable & Deadpool (Vol. 1, Issue #2)
https://screenrant.com/deadpool-ryan-reynolds-movi...



Recasting. Maybe Jason Sudekis for someone who isn't already a main Marvel movie character (he voices a character in the Hit-Monkey animation series). Paul Rudd or Chris Pratt if Ant Man or GOTG weren't around already at the time.

wisbech

4,193 posts

150 months

Monday 10th August
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nordboy said:
Captain Jack Sparrow - Johnny Depp. I honestly can't think of anyone else who would have been as good for that role? I do wonder if that was the way they envisioned the character to be played or whether that was pretty much all him.
It was all him according to those who worked on the film.

Re Iron Man/ Tony Stark. Ralf Fiennes I reckon.

Antony Moxey

10,659 posts

248 months

Monday 10th August
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nordboy said:
Antony Moxey said:
It's a funny one this: suppose they'd cast Steve Evans as Iron Man and Robert Downey Junior as Captain America, would we all be saying they were miscast and should have been the other way round? I guess you just get used to them in those roles so it's difficult to see someone else doing the same role. I find it interesting too seeing some of the names pop up that are offered roles before the one that finally gets it and makes it famous.

Anyway, I digress. Sorry!
Or maybe Chris Evans instead of Steve Evans might have been better? winkbiggrin
Haha, yes, him as well!!

shirt

25,364 posts

230 months

Monday 10th August
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John Goodman as Fred Flintstone biggrin

Kevin Spacey as Verbal Kint. Maybe Edward Norton is the only other who could have carried the role later in years, there’s echoes of his primal fear character for sure.

Sheets Tabuer

21,376 posts

244 months

Monday 10th August
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Sean connery turned down Gandalf, that would have been interesting, You shall not pash!!!!

bergclimber34

3,831 posts

22 months

Monday 10th August
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Some roles just suit certain actors, male and female. And it can be in any type if movie, from big budget to lower budget.

Some actors have a screen presence a role needs, I doubt at times it is even intended but for you the viewer, they have, and it can be. very powerful.

I think casting is a hugely important role in film, and so many get it wrong, and some perfect castings are accidents.

SpudLink

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221 months

Monday 10th August
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Sean connery turned down Gandalf, that would have been interesting, You shall not pash!!!!
Talking of Connery …

Once he was established as Bond, apparently many people had the same view that Bond was Connery, and no one else would do. Even though his portrayal didn’t match the books. But obviously they did recast to keep the franchise going.

For what it’s worth, I think Bond could have been a success even if Sean Connery never played the role.
In From Russia With Love, Robert Shaw plays a villainous counterpart. I could see him as the original Bond. He has everything Connery brought to the role. Handsome, charismatic, a cruel streak.

ajprice

33,196 posts

225 months

Monday 10th August
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SpudLink said:
Sometimes an actor is so suited to the character, people say they can t imagine anyone else.
So let s try and recast an actor who was perfect in an iconic role.

I will start with a tough one. Robert Downey Junior as Iron Man. It was like he was born to play Tony Stark. He was so good they built a multi billion dollar franchise around him.
But suppose he turned down the role.

My first thought was Pierce Brosnan. He has the charm and looks of the comic book Stark. I reckon he could have worked. But was probably too old at the time.

So I am going to suggest Christian Bale. He was already playing a billionaire superhero at the time, and proved he can carry a franchise.
A very different actor. Undoubtedly if he had been given the role, the MCU might have headed in a more serious direction from the start.
But I reckon it could have worked.
Pre 2008, there are rumours and stories that the first target to play Iron Man was Tom Cruise, but his pay was too much for what was going to be a risk with the initial Marvel films as Iron Man wasn't well known at the time.

I think he could have pulled it off.

baconsarney

12,406 posts

190 months

Monday 10th August
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I wish Chris Rogers could've had a shot at Iron Man....

baconsarney

12,406 posts

190 months

Monday 10th August
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The Outlaw Josey Wales.... Can't imagine anyone other than Clint in that role...

miniman

29,963 posts

291 months

Monday 10th August
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Granadier

1,315 posts

56 months

Monday 10th August
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shirt said:
John Goodman as Fred Flintstone biggrin
I thought at the time it was a brave bit of casting getting Mark Addy to replace him in the sequel. I don't remember much about it, but as far as I recall he put in a reasonable effort

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 10th August
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Not film but TV. Have often thought that Philip Glenister and Marc Warren would be a great Jack Regan and George Carter in a Sweeney remake...