On screen annoyances - fake sounds, stupid placements...
Discussion
Not sure this will take off but it's annoying me enough to see what the PH Movie Hive Mind might think and let me convince my wife that when i get annoyed it's justified!
I'll start.
Cups and containers that are clearly empty.
Scene: someone hands someone else a freshly bought coffee, large and would be roasting hot. The guy takes it, puts to his mouth and takes a massive swig or a wee sip. Nothing registers.
Then what spurred this thread - the cups are quite clearly empty and you can see this by the way the get put on the surface and when they miss to edit the sound you can hear it's an empty cup. Makes my teeth itch!
Next up is screeching tyres on grass and gravel. They have edited out the gravel sound and put the squeals over the top of it!
What you got?
I'll start.
Cups and containers that are clearly empty.
Scene: someone hands someone else a freshly bought coffee, large and would be roasting hot. The guy takes it, puts to his mouth and takes a massive swig or a wee sip. Nothing registers.
Then what spurred this thread - the cups are quite clearly empty and you can see this by the way the get put on the surface and when they miss to edit the sound you can hear it's an empty cup. Makes my teeth itch!
Next up is screeching tyres on grass and gravel. They have edited out the gravel sound and put the squeals over the top of it!
What you got?
Motorbikes!
When some little Motocross style bike sounds like a thundering 4 cyl with loud pipes.
Super sports bikes in close up to see they have knobblies on, yet in the wide shots they have cut slicks.
Cars are similar when a 4pot sounds like a V8.
Films set in the near past with cars/bikes that weren't made yet.
Also war films, war on drugs films set in the 80s where soldiers are carrying M4 rifles which weren't in use until the mid 90s.
When some little Motocross style bike sounds like a thundering 4 cyl with loud pipes.
Super sports bikes in close up to see they have knobblies on, yet in the wide shots they have cut slicks.
Cars are similar when a 4pot sounds like a V8.
Films set in the near past with cars/bikes that weren't made yet.
Also war films, war on drugs films set in the 80s where soldiers are carrying M4 rifles which weren't in use until the mid 90s.
I have never really understood why in films cars and bikes are usually drowned out with the wrong sound, this has been the case for decades, a few have done it right, notably Ronin and a few others.
I guess it must be stock sounds and availability and maybe the difficulty of using real sound in a take and then making it work on film? It must be surely or all directors would not do it!!
If you watch enough films you do hear stock sounds, explosions, rubble, gunshots, punches. one fave is Harrison Ford he seems to have his own branded punch sounds from Indiana Jones and if you listen carefully it is even used on Force Awakens at times, makes me laugh, I don't think it takes anything away from the films, it just could be better.
I guess it must be stock sounds and availability and maybe the difficulty of using real sound in a take and then making it work on film? It must be surely or all directors would not do it!!
If you watch enough films you do hear stock sounds, explosions, rubble, gunshots, punches. one fave is Harrison Ford he seems to have his own branded punch sounds from Indiana Jones and if you listen carefully it is even used on Force Awakens at times, makes me laugh, I don't think it takes anything away from the films, it just could be better.
Davie_GLA said:
Not sure this will take off but it's annoying me enough to see what the PH Movie Hive Mind might think and let me convince my wife that when i get annoyed it's justified!
I'll start.
Cups and containers that are clearly empty.
Scene: someone hands someone else a freshly bought coffee, large and would be roasting hot. The guy takes it, puts to his mouth and takes a massive swig or a wee sip. Nothing registers.
Then what spurred this thread - the cups are quite clearly empty and you can see this by the way the get put on the surface and when they miss to edit the sound you can hear it's an empty cup. Makes my teeth itch!
Next up is screeching tyres on grass and gravel. They have edited out the gravel sound and put the squeals over the top of it!
What you got?
It's artistic licence.I'll start.
Cups and containers that are clearly empty.
Scene: someone hands someone else a freshly bought coffee, large and would be roasting hot. The guy takes it, puts to his mouth and takes a massive swig or a wee sip. Nothing registers.
Then what spurred this thread - the cups are quite clearly empty and you can see this by the way the get put on the surface and when they miss to edit the sound you can hear it's an empty cup. Makes my teeth itch!
Next up is screeching tyres on grass and gravel. They have edited out the gravel sound and put the squeals over the top of it!
What you got?
Binoculars have forever shown overlapping circles when, in reality, they don't.
Car driving scenes with the driver sawing away at the wheel to remain in a straight line.
Etc.
Furbo said:
It's artistic licence.
Binoculars have forever shown overlapping circles when, in reality, they don't.
Car driving scenes with the driver sawing away at the wheel to remain in a straight line.
Etc.
Ah yes, i should have added the sawing at the wheel thing. I just think to myself that they really must get the play in the bushes looked at pronto. Binoculars have forever shown overlapping circles when, in reality, they don't.
Car driving scenes with the driver sawing away at the wheel to remain in a straight line.
Etc.
everyone in tv land always answers the phone within 3 rings, or else has their answerphone kick in with a handy message hinting at where they are.
similarly, response to any text message [they haven't got whatsapp yet] is almost instant.
if the above is ignored, it means the person is dead.
similarly, response to any text message [they haven't got whatsapp yet] is almost instant.
if the above is ignored, it means the person is dead.
chrisch77 said:
OP, If you are interested in the behind the scenes process that deals with things like the sound effects on films an TV then it is worth listening to the Rest Is Entertainment podcast. Things like actors eating and drinking on camera were covered in recent Q&A episodes.
Thanks for that. I’ll check that out. I like watching crime documentaries and quite often they show text messages being typed, complete with keyboard clicks and the sending swoosh. It drives me mad but then I suffer from Misophonia. Another sound that I particularly hate is wine being poured into a glass (the glug glug sound)
Edited by tim0409 on Saturday 31st May 14:27
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