Strictly 2024 Official Thread
Discussion
So the pro line-up’s announced with a couple of surprises. Firstly, really pleased to see Amy back, and secondly no Giovanni this year which is a massive shame. Hopefully Amy’s fully recovered from her recent illnesses and Giovanni survives all his recent allegations and returns next year.
One other thing that’s slightly odd is that there appears to be eight pro males and ten pro females - I guess we’re going to have a few partnerless again (probably Neil, he seems reduced to the Christmas special these days), but please make sure Nadiya and Jowita aren’t left out.
And finally it seems a bit early for the first announcements.
One other thing that’s slightly odd is that there appears to be eight pro males and ten pro females - I guess we’re going to have a few partnerless again (probably Neil, he seems reduced to the Christmas special these days), but please make sure Nadiya and Jowita aren’t left out.
And finally it seems a bit early for the first announcements.
Antony Moxey said:
Sebring440 said:
Antony Moxey said:
Strictly 2024 Official Thread
What's "official" about this thread?
Not sure what the big deal about the title is. Anyway, do we know if Chris McCausland is in it yet? I guess not because I think that only the pros have been announced. How much of this is luvvies that fail to understand that training people to become high performing dancers in a dozen weeks is going to involve some bloody hard work, failure,lows highs and all points between,injury, tears and emotional investment.?
Most celebs over the years have never complained and I suspect most of the pro dancers were trained in a similar way, but understood that in order to reach the top there was going to be pain.
Most celebs over the years have never complained and I suspect most of the pro dancers were trained in a similar way, but understood that in order to reach the top there was going to be pain.
From all that has come out it sounds a little like Goodwood.
At the start it was semi-fun, semi competitive and a bit of a giggle. Over time, money, profile and natural competitive urges has elevated things to a much more serious level. As things get more serious, more ppl pour more money in and take it more seriously. As is the way of such things, when professionally competitive ppl take things seriously, the softer edges can frequently go out of the window. The celebs are half “professional profile raisers” and half “pro am laugh” and the two things suddenly come into glaring conflict.
That being said, if you are witnessed kicking your partner in training, then it ain’t going to go well for you. It’s also genuinely considered detrimental to high performance.
At the start it was semi-fun, semi competitive and a bit of a giggle. Over time, money, profile and natural competitive urges has elevated things to a much more serious level. As things get more serious, more ppl pour more money in and take it more seriously. As is the way of such things, when professionally competitive ppl take things seriously, the softer edges can frequently go out of the window. The celebs are half “professional profile raisers” and half “pro am laugh” and the two things suddenly come into glaring conflict.
That being said, if you are witnessed kicking your partner in training, then it ain’t going to go well for you. It’s also genuinely considered detrimental to high performance.
I was a high level competitive ballroom dancer for many years until knee damage forced my retirement. I also still know a few of the pro dancers involved in Strictly.
Competitive dance is very hard work. It takes a lot of fitness, hard work and effort to perform at a decent standard. Most Celebs don’t appreciate the level of fitness and training needed to perform even to the relatively low level required for strictly.
To put the fitness into perspective, by way of examples. Viennese Waltz should be 58 to 60 3 beat bars per minute. That’s 3 steps per second, whilst rotating 180 degrees every 3 steps. Even the toned down versions that Strictly uses are hard work. Quickstep & Jive have elements that are faster. Many people will underestimate the effort involved when they sign up for Strictly. They also may have to juggle training with a day job.
The next problem is that pro dancers have a limited shelf life. So they need to make as a big a name for themselves as they can for when they leave Strictly. Many can trade off that for years afterwards. Karen Hardy & Kevin Clifton are great examples of Strictly boosting their careers for years after their departure.
All of this creates a horribly pressured environment, with tons of stress for both Celebs and pro dancers. Most of the pro dancers seem able to cope, although Di Prima’s actions are so far into the realms of unacceptable behaviour I’m utterly appalled that any pro dancer could behave like this.
The BBC will be desperate not to bin the series; its popularity is still high, and the viewing public would be deeply pissed off, as would dance studios everywhere. Strictly has boosted attendance massively since launch, and continues to do so. The proposed chaperone process should resolve the issues, but I’m still shocked that it’s necessary- no pro dancer or teacher should ever be abusive to a struggling student, regardless of the pressure to perform.
I’m watching with interest to see how the BBC handles this one.
Competitive dance is very hard work. It takes a lot of fitness, hard work and effort to perform at a decent standard. Most Celebs don’t appreciate the level of fitness and training needed to perform even to the relatively low level required for strictly.
To put the fitness into perspective, by way of examples. Viennese Waltz should be 58 to 60 3 beat bars per minute. That’s 3 steps per second, whilst rotating 180 degrees every 3 steps. Even the toned down versions that Strictly uses are hard work. Quickstep & Jive have elements that are faster. Many people will underestimate the effort involved when they sign up for Strictly. They also may have to juggle training with a day job.
The next problem is that pro dancers have a limited shelf life. So they need to make as a big a name for themselves as they can for when they leave Strictly. Many can trade off that for years afterwards. Karen Hardy & Kevin Clifton are great examples of Strictly boosting their careers for years after their departure.
All of this creates a horribly pressured environment, with tons of stress for both Celebs and pro dancers. Most of the pro dancers seem able to cope, although Di Prima’s actions are so far into the realms of unacceptable behaviour I’m utterly appalled that any pro dancer could behave like this.
The BBC will be desperate not to bin the series; its popularity is still high, and the viewing public would be deeply pissed off, as would dance studios everywhere. Strictly has boosted attendance massively since launch, and continues to do so. The proposed chaperone process should resolve the issues, but I’m still shocked that it’s necessary- no pro dancer or teacher should ever be abusive to a struggling student, regardless of the pressure to perform.
I’m watching with interest to see how the BBC handles this one.
The popularity is high because it's based on a feel good factor or the show and it being a great experience and journey for all involved.
When doubt is introduced , and now truth, it starts to creek and crumble
I'm a big fan, but I'd prefer less competition, less quality, on order to keep the fun and entertaining and sometimes very genuine emotion in the show.
When doubt is introduced , and now truth, it starts to creek and crumble
I'm a big fan, but I'd prefer less competition, less quality, on order to keep the fun and entertaining and sometimes very genuine emotion in the show.
its too big to be binned - yet.... i think its going to need a nice "incident" free series.....
i'll still enjoy it, but i'll always have a little thing in my mind when they are gushing over each other is it really real or is the pro smashing their legs with a big truncheon.... ;-)
i mean everyone thought top gear was too big to be binned but it did in the end.
i'll still enjoy it, but i'll always have a little thing in my mind when they are gushing over each other is it really real or is the pro smashing their legs with a big truncheon.... ;-)
i mean everyone thought top gear was too big to be binned but it did in the end.
SydneyBridge said:
They need 'no contact' strictly.....
i think its also a little bit much to blame the pro's fully, yes they need to take responsibility, but so does the bbc - in upping the dancing stakes each series, and demanding more and more for celebs and the "win" becoming super important to the pro's and celebs alike, it was always going to bake in more and more pressure and potential problems. Gassing Station | TV, Film, Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff