This summer’s blockbuster
Discussion
cobra kid said:
Are there blockbusters anymore? With all the streaming, there doesn't seem to be the huge difference between the limitations of television at home and cinema visits.
Or am I just getting old?
apparently there has been much consternation that Furiosa flopped in the cinema and much has been made of the effect streaming has had on it... Or am I just getting old?
I'll be honest and say that I really love the cinema but having a large room full of f
kwits who can't stay off their phones, stop talking or eat silently (not to mention some comedy pricing) has got me thinking that, maybe, I'd rather watch at homeI think those days are gone.
Obvs it died during the Covid years, but last year was supposed to be the big 'return of the blockbuster'. Barbie did very well, but only after spending $150m on Marketing (on a $145m film).
I think it's a good thing, the best films are rarely mega budget blockbusters anyway.
Obvs it died during the Covid years, but last year was supposed to be the big 'return of the blockbuster'. Barbie did very well, but only after spending $150m on Marketing (on a $145m film).
I think it's a good thing, the best films are rarely mega budget blockbusters anyway.
DodgyGeezer said:
apparently there has been much consternation that Furiosa flopped in the cinema and much has been made of the effect streaming has had on it...
I'll be honest and say that I really love the cinema but having a large room full of fkwits who can't stay off their phones, stop talking or eat silently (not to mention some comedy pricing) has got me thinking that, maybe, I'd rather watch at home
Never understood why people pay to go to the cinema and then end up on their phones or talking complete crap with their friends. If you want to avoid this I would recommend going to the Curzon which is a middle aged person who wants to avoid the Odeon scum cinema .I'll be honest and say that I really love the cinema but having a large room full of f
kwits who can't stay off their phones, stop talking or eat silently (not to mention some comedy pricing) has got me thinking that, maybe, I'd rather watch at homeHowever you will pay for the privilege, it cost me £18.50 a ticket to see The Fall Guy.
Which brings me on to streaming, it cost me £75 to see it as a family of 4 with a £1 booking fee. £75 QUID TO GO TO THE CINEMA!!!!
A few weeks later they are all on the streaming platforms anyway, so why pay so much to see it a few weeks earlier?
Have to say the cost has killed it for me, plus I don't want to see the latest Marvel/DC Multiverse, Jurassic Park/Transformers sequel or yet another woke remake of a classic film/TV franchise.
Then as you say, the summer blockbusters (Barbie / Oppenheimer) are the ones that have had £100 million spent on marketing and are crap anyway.
DodgyGeezer said:
cobra kid said:
Are there blockbusters anymore? With all the streaming, there doesn't seem to be the huge difference between the limitations of television at home and cinema visits.
Or am I just getting old?
apparently there has been much consternation that Furiosa flopped in the cinema and much has been made of the effect streaming has had on it... Or am I just getting old?
I'll be honest and say that I really love the cinema but having a large room full of f
kwits who can't stay off their phones, stop talking or eat silently (not to mention some comedy pricing) has got me thinking that, maybe, I'd rather watch at homeFuriosa got good reviews, but people just haven't been to see it. The same has been seen, to varying degrees, with films like Mission Impossible.
If they're losing tens or even hundreds of millions, studios simply won't invest in blockbuster films so it'll be interesting to see how this goes.
For me, I think there has been only a couple of films I'd make the effort to go to the cinema and watch since Covid. Is that due to the prevalence of streaming?
Maybe - the prospect of paying well north of £50 to go to the cinema and watch a film versus watching it in the comfort of my own home with my big telly, surround sound, £1 popcorn, a beer, lack of idiots on phones/talking and the ability to pause it when I need a piss is........unappealing.
Films have got too expensive to make and they need to spend too much on marketing.
Lets look at Furiosa, a film that cost $168 million to make. The rough calculation is taking into account marketing and the fact that the cinema keep half the ticket money is a film needs to take 2.5 times the production cost just to break even.
That is $420 million, currently it has taken $114 million.
The Fall Guy is another film that has bombed, it apparently cost $130 million to make, times that by 2.5 and that means it needs to take $325 million just to break even. It took $157.9 million.
Indiana Jones and the dial of destiny cost anywhere from $295 to $387 million dollars. Multiply even the lowest estimate by 2.5 and that is $737.5 million. It took $384 million.
The film studios are losing hundreds of millions of dollars on these films.
The cinema tickets are too expensive which means less takings so the studios are adding these films to streaming services sooner and sooner to try and recoup some of the money.
Plus as I said earlier every film is a DC/Marvel Multiverse film, yet another tired sequel or some woke remake of a classic film. In the past this would have guaranteed a big return, but that just isn't the case anymore.
I have no idea where the cinema goes from here, personally I am quite happy to just stay at home and watch Netflix. The other issue is once a film is on a paid streaming site, a perfect copy will be on a P2P site instantly.
It just seems we have a perfect storm now :
1)Tired films that offer nothing new
2)Cinema tickets are just too expensive
3)Netflix and streaming services mean people can watch films at home
Covid definitely started this and I think the cinema is on borrowed time now.
My local cinema has turned most of the cinemas into recliner chairs, this is to see Furiosa tonight at 8:30
Fancy a box of popcorn and a coke?
Takes the piss, I suspect they won't sell many more tickets than 7 today.
Lets look at Furiosa, a film that cost $168 million to make. The rough calculation is taking into account marketing and the fact that the cinema keep half the ticket money is a film needs to take 2.5 times the production cost just to break even.
That is $420 million, currently it has taken $114 million.
The Fall Guy is another film that has bombed, it apparently cost $130 million to make, times that by 2.5 and that means it needs to take $325 million just to break even. It took $157.9 million.
Indiana Jones and the dial of destiny cost anywhere from $295 to $387 million dollars. Multiply even the lowest estimate by 2.5 and that is $737.5 million. It took $384 million.
The film studios are losing hundreds of millions of dollars on these films.
The cinema tickets are too expensive which means less takings so the studios are adding these films to streaming services sooner and sooner to try and recoup some of the money.
Plus as I said earlier every film is a DC/Marvel Multiverse film, yet another tired sequel or some woke remake of a classic film. In the past this would have guaranteed a big return, but that just isn't the case anymore.
I have no idea where the cinema goes from here, personally I am quite happy to just stay at home and watch Netflix. The other issue is once a film is on a paid streaming site, a perfect copy will be on a P2P site instantly.
It just seems we have a perfect storm now :
1)Tired films that offer nothing new
2)Cinema tickets are just too expensive
3)Netflix and streaming services mean people can watch films at home
Covid definitely started this and I think the cinema is on borrowed time now.
My local cinema has turned most of the cinemas into recliner chairs, this is to see Furiosa tonight at 8:30
Fancy a box of popcorn and a coke?
Takes the piss, I suspect they won't sell many more tickets than 7 today.
Edited by ThingsBehindTheSun on Monday 3rd June 13:42
For the original question: Dead Pool will certainly be up there and personally one that I’m looking forward to.
The cinema is still a “date” place. My (just past teenage) daughters will still go to the cinema as a place to go on a second or third date. And then it becomes more Netflix etc.
I don’t think that is enough to sustain the creation of these mega films unfortunately to be honest as some of the ones from years ago (terminator 2 spring to mind) were great.
The cinema is still a “date” place. My (just past teenage) daughters will still go to the cinema as a place to go on a second or third date. And then it becomes more Netflix etc.
I don’t think that is enough to sustain the creation of these mega films unfortunately to be honest as some of the ones from years ago (terminator 2 spring to mind) were great.
I used to be an avid cinema goer but counting back over last 2 yrs I’ve only been 4 times (Top gun Mav, Oppenheimer , dune 2 and Mario bros with the kids). I’m a lot more discerning nowadays as to what I go see but have time constrains due to family etc. I still enjoy the experience and with the right film it’s unbeatable (Top Gun Mav was a great example) but if the tentpole movies aren’t making the cash then the studios will stop making them. It could be argued they still turn out too much expensive dross and endless superhero films just lead to audience fatigue.
Yeah the marvel ones etc just got silly although you have good ones amongst it like spiderman, deadpool etc. I love the innovative ones like Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
I’m a massive Batman fan so I’ve been happy with them, they’ve been brilliant
Fingers crossed Alien: Romulus will be not sure what the director’s like, apparent good with horror but not so good with technology so not sure how it will go.
I understand the cost is v bad if taking a family! But on my own I don’t mind haha
I’m a massive Batman fan so I’ve been happy with them, they’ve been brilliant
Fingers crossed Alien: Romulus will be not sure what the director’s like, apparent good with horror but not so good with technology so not sure how it will go.
I understand the cost is v bad if taking a family! But on my own I don’t mind haha
RSbandit said:
I used to be an avid cinema goer but counting back over last 2 yrs I’ve only been 4 times (Top gun Mav, Oppenheimer , dune 2 and Mario bros with the kids). I’m a lot more discerning nowadays as to what I go see but have time constrains due to family etc. I still enjoy the experience and with the right film it’s unbeatable (Top Gun Mav was a great example) but if the tentpole movies aren’t making the cash then the studios will stop making them. It could be argued they still turn out too much expensive dross and endless superhero films just lead to audience fatigue.
I’ve been to a fair few, Dune 1 & 2, Top Gun: Maverick (outstanding), a few old reruns they’ve put on which has been great: Risky Business, The Dark Knight Rises, Jurassic Park, etcAnd a few average films like The Equalizer 3 lol
Overall I still like it for big films
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