X-Men '97

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C5_Steve

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4,853 posts

110 months

Thursday 21st March
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Can't see this mentioned on here so far. I kind of just missed the original TV show as I was about 11/12 when it started and just a bit too old for it I think although I do remember watching it in the afternoon from time to time.

Anyway, the new series started on Disney+ and I have to say, it's brilliant. First of all, the intro has been completely redone but it's the same as the original with the awesome theme song intact but slightly amped up. It looks great, sounds amazing and based off the first two eps it has some of the best X-Men action I've seen. They've nailed the team dynamic, the voice performances are all on point. It's a great show and I honestly wasn't that excited for it.

Otispunkmeyer

13,049 posts

162 months

Thursday 21st March
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C5_Steve said:
Can't see this mentioned on here so far. I kind of just missed the original TV show as I was about 11/12 when it started and just a bit too old for it I think although I do remember watching it in the afternoon from time to time.

Anyway, the new series started on Disney+ and I have to say, it's brilliant. First of all, the intro has been completely redone but it's the same as the original with the awesome theme song intact but slightly amped up. It looks great, sounds amazing and based off the first two eps it has some of the best X-Men action I've seen. They've nailed the team dynamic, the voice performances are all on point. It's a great show and I honestly wasn't that excited for it.
Thanks for the heads up. Will check this out, big X-Men fan.

gregs656

11,410 posts

188 months

Thursday 21st March
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Watched both episodes yesterday. It's exactly what it should be so far I think, thoroughly enjoyed it.

Obi Wan

2,121 posts

222 months

Thursday 21st March
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I’m watching the original series for the first time before watching 97. Glad to hear the quality is still high as I’m enjoying the older episodes.

Radec

4,406 posts

54 months

Tuesday 26th March
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Watched the first 2 episodes yesterday, I did watch the originals when they were first on but it was a long time ago so I'd forgotten most of it.

However when that theme tune hit the memories started to come back.

Very good so far, and Rogue still smoking.

C5_Steve

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4,853 posts

110 months

Thursday 11th April
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Not sure how many are still watching this but I've just seen ep5. Incredible episode, up there with the best animated stuff I've seen and certainly one of the best things with the X Men in full stop. Still another 6 eps to go and I can't believe how they keep knocking it out of the park with this series episode after episode.

alabbasi

2,707 posts

94 months

Thursday 11th April
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Are you talking about the cartoons? Those were pretty good.

C5_Steve

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110 months

Thursday 11th April
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alabbasi said:
Are you talking about the cartoons? Those were pretty good.
New series which follows directly on from the cartoons (hence it being called Xmen '97). Launched on D+ a few weeks ago now.

alabbasi

2,707 posts

94 months

Thursday 11th April
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C5_Steve said:
New series which follows directly on from the cartoons (hence it being called Xmen '97). Launched on D+ a few weeks ago now.
Nice, I've not seen the new series but the old cartoons were pretty good.

SpudLink

6,444 posts

199 months

Friday 12th April
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C5_Steve said:
Not sure how many are still watching this but I've just seen ep5. Incredible episode, up there with the best animated stuff I've seen and certainly one of the best things with the X Men in full stop. Still another 6 eps to go and I can't believe how they keep knocking it out of the park with this series episode after episode.
For context: I was reading X-Men comics religiously from the late ‘70s to late ‘80s. After which I dropped in and out, buying the occasional collection of issues. When the ‘90s cartoon came along I wasn’t interested, but gave it a try a few years after. Thought the voice acting made it unwatchable. Also tried DC’s Justice League cartoons a few years after they were made, and they were vastly superior in terms of acting and animation.
So I went into the new reboot/continuation out if curiosity, thinking I’d give it an episode or two.

Ep 1: Meh. Animation in the same style, but vastly improved. Voice acting is similar, but somehow much better. ‘For fans of the old show.’

Ep 2: This is better.

Ep 3: I think this might actually be quite good.

Ep 4: First half made me think ‘This is wasting minutes of my life’. 2nd half was getting back on form.

Ep 5: Oh wow! Fantastic work. It’s like the previous episodes were just the warmup.

It’s good. Far better than I would have expected.
However, I don’t think it’s on par with Invincible, which I reckon is far better than most live action superhero live action films out TV.

Looking forward to where they go from here.

ajprice

29,277 posts

203 months

Friday 12th April
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Is this the original series that X-MEN '97 following on from?


C5_Steve

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4,853 posts

110 months

Friday 12th April
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ajprice said:
Is this the original series that X-MEN '97 following on from?

Yep

C5_Steve

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4,853 posts

110 months

Friday 12th April
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SpudLink said:
For context: I was reading X-Men comics religiously from the late ‘70s to late ‘80s. After which I dropped in and out, buying the occasional collection of issues. When the ‘90s cartoon came along I wasn’t interested, but gave it a try a few years after. Thought the voice acting made it unwatchable. Also tried DC’s Justice League cartoons a few years after they were made, and they were vastly superior in terms of acting and animation.
So I went into the new reboot/continuation out if curiosity, thinking I’d give it an episode or two.

Ep 1: Meh. Animation in the same style, but vastly improved. Voice acting is similar, but somehow much better. ‘For fans of the old show.’

Ep 2: This is better.

Ep 3: I think this might actually be quite good.

Ep 4: First half made me think ‘This is wasting minutes of my life’. 2nd half was getting back on form.

Ep 5: Oh wow! Fantastic work. It’s like the previous episodes were just the warmup.

It’s good. Far better than I would have expected.
However, I don’t think it’s on par with Invincible, which I reckon is far better than most live action superhero live action films out TV.

Looking forward to where they go from here.
Invincible is incredible don't get me wrong, but this has done a hell of a lot in just 5 episodes (that are half the runtime of Invincible remember). Not even the biggest episodes of the series either which after 5 I'm pretty shocked by. Apparently 8-10 are massive.


RemaL

25,010 posts

241 months

Friday 12th April
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God this brought back some memories. Enjoyed it and glad they have not tried to modernise it

Radec

4,406 posts

54 months

Friday 12th April
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Episode 5 was very good, wish it was a bit longer.
Everything goes breakneck speed trying to fit it all into 30 mins.

snoopy25

1,933 posts

127 months

Friday 12th April
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Episode 5 was amazing!!! And should have been much longer! But still..... What an episode!!!

ThomW

1,336 posts

35 months

Tuesday 16th April
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I can see the showrunner is trying to put his stamp on the genre with Ep5 - that's a pretty bold move killing off ttwo main characters. Though I'm going to assume Magneto won't stay dead, he was resurrected by the Morlocks in the comics, so that may happen.

C5_Steve

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110 months

Tuesday 16th April
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ThomW said:
I can see the showrunner is trying to put his stamp on the genre with Ep5 - that's a pretty bold move killing off ttwo main characters. Though I'm going to assume Magneto won't stay dead, he was resurrected by the Morlocks in the comics, so that may happen.
The showrunner was sacked just before the show aired (nothing to do with the show, issues outside it). He mentioned that when he first pitched the idea of bringing the show back in 2018 (I think), he pitched episode 5. He's described the arc as a bit pre/post 9/11 in terms of Ep 5 and how the season plays out.


SpudLink

6,444 posts

199 months

Tuesday 16th April
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C5_Steve said:
ThomW said:
I can see the showrunner is trying to put his stamp on the genre with Ep5 - that's a pretty bold move killing off ttwo main characters. Though I'm going to assume Magneto won't stay dead, he was resurrected by the Morlocks in the comics, so that may happen.
The showrunner was sacked just before the show aired (nothing to do with the show, issues outside it). He mentioned that when he first pitched the idea of bringing the show back in 2018 (I think), he pitched episode 5. He's described the arc as a bit pre/post 9/11 in terms of Ep 5 and how the season plays out.
Everyone who died in Ep 5 needs to stay dead for the rest of the season. If you decide to have an event as impactful as that, then you need to follow up with the consequences. Show us how every character deals with it, and the effects on in-universe geopolitics. Otherwise Ep 5 was just a stunt.

It's the world of superheroes, so when the time comes there are dozens of ways for the writers to easily bring characters back, or undo the whole thing with time travel. But until then, they have the potential to give us a story as good as anything we've seen from Marvel.

C5_Steve

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110 months

Tuesday 16th April
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SpudLink said:
C5_Steve said:
ThomW said:
I can see the showrunner is trying to put his stamp on the genre with Ep5 - that's a pretty bold move killing off ttwo main characters. Though I'm going to assume Magneto won't stay dead, he was resurrected by the Morlocks in the comics, so that may happen.
The showrunner was sacked just before the show aired (nothing to do with the show, issues outside it). He mentioned that when he first pitched the idea of bringing the show back in 2018 (I think), he pitched episode 5. He's described the arc as a bit pre/post 9/11 in terms of Ep 5 and how the season plays out.
Everyone who died in Ep 5 needs to stay dead for the rest of the season. If you decide to have an event as impactful as that, then you need to follow up with the consequences. Show us how every character deals with it, and the effects on in-universe geopolitics. Otherwise Ep 5 was just a stunt.

It's the world of superheroes, so when the time comes there are dozens of ways for the writers to easily bring characters back, or undo the whole thing with time travel. But until then, they have the potential to give us a story as good as anything we've seen from Marvel.
Yeah I agree, unless they do something brilliant I'll be disappointed if they undo it and it was just for the sake of it. The fact Cable was in the episode kind of confirms we'll have some time travel stuff.