The Reckoning - BBC1
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Begins on Monday 9th October at 9pm, where Steve Coogan takes on the role as Jimmy Savile.
https://inews.co.uk/culture/television/the-reckoni...
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This won't be an easy watch, but the reviews I've heard largely suggest it is worth seeing.
I'll give it ago and below is a trailor for the series.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wud_ofC2rAI
I'll give it ago and below is a trailor for the series.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wud_ofC2rAI
rjfp1962 said:
This won't be an easy watch, but the reviews I've heard largely suggest it is worth seeing.
I'll give it ago and below is a trailor for the series.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wud_ofC2rAI
It’s an extremely uncomfortable watch indeed. Just watching it now.I'll give it ago and below is a trailor for the series.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wud_ofC2rAI
A very brave role for Steve Coogan to take on.
It must have been a difficult decision for him.
I’ve just watched the four episodes and I think they have handled an extremely difficult subject with sensitivity.
I agree that it must have been a difficult decision for Coogan, but again he played the role very “well”, and having read the book by Dan Davies he really captures the awfulness of Savile (I can’t think of many other actors that could have played him). I must admit that I am fascinated by characters like Savile, and how they manage to hoodwink society to get their way. The phrase that’s often repeated, is that Savile “groomed a nation”, and I think with hindsight that is largely true.
I agree that it must have been a difficult decision for Coogan, but again he played the role very “well”, and having read the book by Dan Davies he really captures the awfulness of Savile (I can’t think of many other actors that could have played him). I must admit that I am fascinated by characters like Savile, and how they manage to hoodwink society to get their way. The phrase that’s often repeated, is that Savile “groomed a nation”, and I think with hindsight that is largely true.
Edited by tim0409 on Monday 9th October 19:20
I watched the whole series today also, and at times it was extremely uncomfortable viewing. I almost felt like I needed to go for a bath afterwards.
Coogan’s acting is one hell of a performance, but you don’t often get a bad one from him. I also thought it was strong acting throughout by all performers.
It is, in places, absolutely jaw-dropping to observe (throughout) as a reflection of an influence JS garnered throughout his life. And what a truly horrible person he really was.
I certainly wouldn’t avoid it as viewing (due to the subject) - for Coogan’s performance is worth it alone.
Coogan’s acting is one hell of a performance, but you don’t often get a bad one from him. I also thought it was strong acting throughout by all performers.
It is, in places, absolutely jaw-dropping to observe (throughout) as a reflection of an influence JS garnered throughout his life. And what a truly horrible person he really was.
I certainly wouldn’t avoid it as viewing (due to the subject) - for Coogan’s performance is worth it alone.
he was. Partridge is a Peter Pan figure really, a boy trapped in a man's body, the DJ persona grew out of a Radio four comedy whose name I forgot, where he was a lousy sports reporter.
I met Jimmy Savile once at Stoke Mandeville. I was 16, had no idea about the rumours around him & spent ten minutes being lectured by him about fundraising for charity - we were there because a school friend had become quadraplegic in a rugby accident. I instantly disliked him. This is hardly news but you just knew straight away, he was off, nothing good about the guy. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.
I met Jimmy Savile once at Stoke Mandeville. I was 16, had no idea about the rumours around him & spent ten minutes being lectured by him about fundraising for charity - we were there because a school friend had become quadraplegic in a rugby accident. I instantly disliked him. This is hardly news but you just knew straight away, he was off, nothing good about the guy. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.
I've watched three episodes so far. Coogan does a great job, but the dramatisation (I know it's a drama) is about over the top. I googled the girl that committed suicide, and the first results were that it was another well known DJ.
Also, why is everyone using the word "lawyer"? I thought that was an American word.
Also, why is everyone using the word "lawyer"? I thought that was an American word.
vixen1700 said:
Watched the first one and thought Coogan was fantastic portraying the ghastliness of Savile.
2 episodes in and I completely agree. It seems very well done - The silence as the first assault (the two girls he took home from the club) unfolded was harrowingly grim. Highly uncomfortable viewing that is then exacerbated as you listen to the real accounts.
It's quite interesting reading/hearing comments from those who are too young to remember how much unacceptable behaviour was accepted back then and how authority figures got away with it because of the respect their position demanded.
Those who didn't experience it struggle to understand how that could have been the case.
I thought in the early scenes when the copper talks to saville over the young lad that got beat up demonstrated it quite well.
Those who didn't experience it struggle to understand how that could have been the case.
I thought in the early scenes when the copper talks to saville over the young lad that got beat up demonstrated it quite well.
Watched episode one last night and of course wasn't surprised to see how despicable Savile was.
I was taken by the responses of the manager at Leeds hospital, the lady boss at the BBC and how they could see what Saville really was, but knew it wasn't worth saying anything against him. Also when Saville caught up again with the teenage girl after he got "disturbed" with her in his office - He catches her again and carries out his assault. Her expression too just yelled... no one will believe me..!
"The Duchess", Saville's mum could see it too, even going to confession to voice her concerns, of which soon disappeared when Saville got her a nice house by the coast. In turn, this frees up her old house to him to bring back further victims.
Will watch the 2nd episode tonight, and the following on the tv schedule.
Too much to take in all at once on iplayer for me..!
I was taken by the responses of the manager at Leeds hospital, the lady boss at the BBC and how they could see what Saville really was, but knew it wasn't worth saying anything against him. Also when Saville caught up again with the teenage girl after he got "disturbed" with her in his office - He catches her again and carries out his assault. Her expression too just yelled... no one will believe me..!
"The Duchess", Saville's mum could see it too, even going to confession to voice her concerns, of which soon disappeared when Saville got her a nice house by the coast. In turn, this frees up her old house to him to bring back further victims.
Will watch the 2nd episode tonight, and the following on the tv schedule.
Too much to take in all at once on iplayer for me..!
I am not sure I can post links here, but if you want to read the actual UK Parliament Report detailing what actually happened at Leeds Teaching Hospital with Savile then just type that into a search engine. It's 263 pages long.
I can honestly say, having read it from the start to the end, it's fascinating for all the wrong reasons, if you understand what I mean. I didn't want to keep reading at some points, but the scenario's described what was happening and how, that I couldn't stop reading.
I got through it all in a day!
I'm local to all this and the way in which the communities in and around Leeds, and the people of Leeds held him in such high regard, looking back, is now astonishing. He didn't even go through the proper channels to verify his fundraising, as he seemed to think this admonished what he was doing in the background.
I can honestly say, having read it from the start to the end, it's fascinating for all the wrong reasons, if you understand what I mean. I didn't want to keep reading at some points, but the scenario's described what was happening and how, that I couldn't stop reading.
I got through it all in a day!
I'm local to all this and the way in which the communities in and around Leeds, and the people of Leeds held him in such high regard, looking back, is now astonishing. He didn't even go through the proper channels to verify his fundraising, as he seemed to think this admonished what he was doing in the background.
rjfp1962 said:
Watched episode one last night and of course wasn't surprised to see how despicable Savile was.
I was taken by the responses of the manager at Leeds hospital, the lady boss at the BBC and how they could see what Saville really was, but knew it wasn't worth saying anything against him. Also when Saville caught up again with the teenage girl after he got "disturbed" with her in his office - He catches her again and carries out his assault. Her expression too just yelled... no one will believe me..!
"The Duchess", Saville's mum could see it too, even going to confession to voice her concerns, of which soon disappeared when Saville got her a nice house by the coast. In turn, this frees up her old house to him to bring back further victims.
Will watch the 2nd episode tonight, and the following on the tv schedule.
Too much to take in all at once on iplayer for me..!
I was staying in Llandudno in Nov. 2021 when they were filming the seaside stuff. They screened off large sections of the promenade and had dummy confectionary / food stores and stuff on there. Presumably the pier will be out of shot or removed with CGI. I was taken by the responses of the manager at Leeds hospital, the lady boss at the BBC and how they could see what Saville really was, but knew it wasn't worth saying anything against him. Also when Saville caught up again with the teenage girl after he got "disturbed" with her in his office - He catches her again and carries out his assault. Her expression too just yelled... no one will believe me..!
"The Duchess", Saville's mum could see it too, even going to confession to voice her concerns, of which soon disappeared when Saville got her a nice house by the coast. In turn, this frees up her old house to him to bring back further victims.
Will watch the 2nd episode tonight, and the following on the tv schedule.
Too much to take in all at once on iplayer for me..!
I could make out Steve Coogan in a light brown leather jacket and the long blonde hair. Huge sections of the parking areas were coned off for all the lighting and production crews etc and monitored by security staff to keep the spaces clear, all the big vehicles went away in the evening. The hotel I was staying in told me they had been advised the BBC were going to be filming a 'period drama.' The sensitivity of it was such that they tried to keep it low key it seemed.
vixen1700 said:
Watched the first one and thought Coogan was fantastic portraying the ghastliness of Savile.
I actually found his portrayal a little too far in that direction.With actual live footage from Savile I can see how people were fooled by him but in this I find him to basically always come across as something of a monster save for the scenes in the BBC office.
IMO the documentary on netflix is much better.
I have seen the first one and thought it was good. Could hardly look in some places but I'm glad I saw it through. Unlike a similar drama a few months ago about a football coach which I literally couldn't watch because it made me feel so uncomfortable.
The bit where he first pushed his way in at the hospital and started pushing the lady in the wheelchair was well done as a demonstration of how some people with confidence/attitude can gat away with things.
The names and faces at the end moved me quite a bit buy showing that the reconstructions were based on true stories. As has been mentioned, it was odd to see the relationship with his mother. Took me by surprise because I assumed she doted over him.
The bit where he first pushed his way in at the hospital and started pushing the lady in the wheelchair was well done as a demonstration of how some people with confidence/attitude can gat away with things.
The names and faces at the end moved me quite a bit buy showing that the reconstructions were based on true stories. As has been mentioned, it was odd to see the relationship with his mother. Took me by surprise because I assumed she doted over him.
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