Frasier is Back

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Cold

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15,575 posts

97 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Dr. Frasier Crane is still listening. Paramount Plus is about to start filming a new series of the good doctor. Kelsey Grammer will, of course, be reviving the starring role.
However, none of the other previous actors (David Hyde Pierce - Niles, Jane Leeves - Daphne, Peri Gilpin - Roz) will be involved this time. John Mahoney - Martin, died a few years ago.


https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/frasier-revival-k...

CourtAgain

3,770 posts

71 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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It will be interesting... sometimes reboots just don't work. Remember Roseanne fell flat on its face second time round?

Gameface

16,565 posts

84 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Cold said:
However, none of the other previous actors (David Hyde Pierce - Niles, Jane Leeves - Daphne, Peri Gilpin - Roz) will be involved this time.
Says they're not attached at this time.

I'd expect that to change for at least some of them.

Won't work otherwise IMO.

Bristol Rob

1,052 posts

195 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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I loved Frasier but I'm also a bit worried it won't be funny because of any number of : reboot/writer or actor change/lack of material

The last two seasons seem'd a bit to far in terms of plot sometimes imo



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FourWheelDrift

89,637 posts

291 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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He needs to relocate, it worked going from Cheers to Frasier.

bigandclever

13,948 posts

245 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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FourWheelDrift said:
He needs to relocate, it worked going from Cheers to Frasier.
He was supposed to be moving to San Francisco for a job in the last show, but the pilot announced ‘Welcome to Chicago’.

sbk1972

902 posts

83 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Great news as I loved Frasier.

However, like all these great shows in the past, they develop surrounding characters who then become central e.g. Niles, Dafney, Martin, Bulldog, etc. These characters all become main characters. It's the same with Big Bang, Friends, and more.

Spin off shows that transition only one character don't usual work as you realise these need to be surrounded by other characters to work. Friends > Joey. Bing Bang > Young Sheldon. Personally I don't think these worked, infact it's only Cheers > Frasier that ever worked.

Another issue you have is that the older shows of Frasier are sit being aired. These episodes had bigger budgets, better writers, more writers and everyone looked so much younger and the comedy was fresh. You watch the newer shows and in the past these just dont hit the spot anymore, or they feel played out. Its not like a whole new show where you give it time to settle in, develop. These continuations need to hit the ground running.

Regardless, I look forward to it and hope it works.

Doofus

28,470 posts

180 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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bigandclever said:
He was supposed to be moving to San Francisco for a job in the last show, but the pilot announced ‘Welcome to Chicago’.
That's because there was a dilemma between the new job and the new girlfriend. The job was in San Francisco and the girlfriend was in Chicago.

Anecdotally, Grammar was a PITA to work with, due to drink/drugs, so it's possible the other cast will suddenly find they're too busy. smile

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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How old is Frasier supposed to be in this? Will he still manage to date an unlimited supply of attractive women?

stevep944

343 posts

225 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Would love it to work but I don't think it will sadly. It will need Niles in it as an absolute minimum, he was funnier than Frasier.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

260 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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stevep944 said:
Would love it to work but I don't think it will sadly. It will need Niles in it as an absolute minimum, he was funnier than Frasier.
Agree. Without Niles it’s a sitcom about a psychiatrist, it won’t be Frasier.

And I’d like Ros to be there. Mmmmm. Ros.

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

138 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Cheers was a great series. I visited the bar that they rebuilt in a glass building in Boston town centre and sat in Norms seat. Also went into the actual pub that features as the outside of Cheers bar, which is called the Bull and Finch, the inside of which is different entirely and never featured in the TV programme.


Edited by LeadFarmer on Thursday 25th February 19:01

944 Man

1,814 posts

139 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Dr Jekyll said:
How old is Frasier supposed to be in this? Will he still manage to date an unlimited supply of attractive women?
Money and not being fat is all it takes. There is a sliding scale, mostly involving money.

Short Grain

3,083 posts

227 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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anonymous said:
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Frasier having to look after Eddie after Martins funeral would be a poignant start to a new series but Niles and Ross need to be there as well. Frasier on his own losing an attractive woman every show would be tedious!

FourWheelDrift

89,637 posts

291 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Elderly Frasier who's turned into Seattle's version of Victor Meldrew moves into a private care home for retired entertainment industry people. He expects to be waited on hand and foot but instead meets lots of over the top characters and finds himself in many awkward situations. Hilarity ensues.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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anonymous said:
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+1

The series was never about Frasier himself, it was about the interplay between him and the other characters. It would be like asking John Cleese to reprise Basil without any hotel guests.

The Rotrex Kid

31,681 posts

167 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Honestly one of my favourite ever programs. Hope they do it justice.

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

90 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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They need a younger actor. David lee roth could do it.

Red9zero

7,913 posts

64 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Fundoreen said:
They need a younger actor. David lee roth could do it.
That's a jump.

SpudLink

6,444 posts

199 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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I thought Cheers was the best American sitcom of the ‘80s, and Frasier the best of the ’90s. But I don’t think it would work if they tried to revive the same show.
Don’t reprise the pompous local c-list celebrity. Instead, show him as a man whose best days are behind him. Dealing with the loneliness of never having settled down. Perhaps failing health, and bitter that his carefully curated life hasn’t turned out as planned.
Kelsey Grammer is a good enough actor to do this and find the comedy/pathos in the role.
It would also need very good writers.