'The Farthest' - Voyager Movie coming soon

'The Farthest' - Voyager Movie coming soon

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RobM77

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35,349 posts

241 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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There's a new movie coming soon all about Voyager 1 and 2. It's just debuted and is coming out on wider release from this Friday. I can't find out where it's being released yet, but I'll keep an eye out and post back if I hear anything.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6223974/

welshjon81

645 posts

148 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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RobM77 said:
There's a new movie coming soon all about Voyager 1 and 2. It's just debuted and is coming out on wider release from this Friday. I can't find out where it's being released yet, but I'll keep an eye out and post back if I hear anything.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6223974/
Great! Please do!

Simpo Two

87,089 posts

272 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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All modern sci-fi films have a mixed race crew of psychologically unsuitable disparates who argue incessantly and then all die except one. I'm not sure how they're going to fit in with Voyager...

littlebasher

3,840 posts

178 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Will this count as a prequel to Star Trek - The Motion Picture?

Eric Mc

122,858 posts

272 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Nice to see "Science and Space Fact" in a major film. I'll definitely be going to see it.

RobM77

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241 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Simpo Two said:
All modern sci-fi films have a mixed race crew of psychologically unsuitable disparates who argue incessantly and then all die except one. I'm not sure how they're going to fit in with Voyager...
Sorry, I forgot to say it's a two hour documentary smile That may have happened back on earth though at a University somewhere biggrin

Eric Mc

122,858 posts

272 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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I bet there were all sorts of fights, arguments etc during the planning stages of these missions. Indeed, at the very beginning of the project there was the ultimate battle with government - which resulted in the original mission being cancelled.

The original working title for the project was "The Grand Tour" mission which would take advantage of the fact that the outer planets (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune) would all be on the same side of the sun from about 1978 through to the mid 1980s. It was seen as an opportunity to use gravity assist to have one or two probes slingshot their way from planet to planet. If the opportunity was missed then any further missions to the outer planets would be slower and more spread out.

Unfortunately, Congress didn't want to fund the original concept. NASA then offered a stripped down and cheaper version using "off the shelf" technology that had been designed under the various Mariner programmes to Mars, Venus and Mercury suitably adopted and upgraded. The missions were originally referred to as Mariner-Jupiter but were later renamed Voyagers 1 and 2.

Two cheaper missions were launched in 1973 to test the concept of slingshots using Jupiter and Saturn which were called Pioneers 10 and 11. These actually were on slightly slower trajectories than the Voyagers.

As of 2015 the probes are at the following distances -

Voyager 1 - 131 AU (astronomical units ie. the distance from the earth to the sun)
Pioneer 10 - 114 AU
Voyager 2 - 108 AU
Pioneer 11 - 90 AU
New Horizons - 32 AU

Simpo Two

87,089 posts

272 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Eric Mc said:
Voyager 1 - 131 AU
I think that's about 0.02 of a light year.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

251 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Simpo Two said:
Eric Mc said:
Voyager 1 - 131 AU
I think that's about 0.02 of a light year.
0.002 atcherly, power of ten error.

Depressing isn't it.

RobM77

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35,349 posts

241 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Einion Yrth said:
Simpo Two said:
Eric Mc said:
Voyager 1 - 131 AU
I think that's about 0.02 of a light year.
0.002 atcherly, power of ten error.

Depressing isn't it.
What I find remarkable is that's a seriously big distance in human terms. Voyager 1 has been travelling at around 17km per sec for decades - night and day, 7 days a week, but it took it 35 years to reach the heliopause, the edge of the solar system. That's astonishing!

Incidentally, to get a handle on just how fast Voyager 1 is moving, the NASA website have a counter and you can watch the kilometres increasing rapidly. Incidentally, the counter says114.974 AU right now.

Eric Mc

122,858 posts

272 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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It's coming back?

RobM77

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241 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Eric Mc said:
It's coming back?
biggrin We have very weird internet here at work and the websites I looked on are being rendered in an odd way on my screen. I can't work out what they mean, even now I realise it's causing an error:

https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/

https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/where/

FunkyNige

9,161 posts

282 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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RobM77 said:
biggrin We have very weird internet here at work and the websites I looked on are being rendered in an odd way on my screen. I can't work out what they mean, even now I realise it's causing an error:
https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/where/
Voyager 1: 138.7 AU from us.
Voyager 2: 114.2 AU from us

smile

Anyone figured out how we can watch this documentary? Are we going to have to pretend to be in the US to stream it from the PBS website?

EricMc said:
It's coming back?
The site says "Note: Because Earth moves around the sun faster than Voyager 1[/2] is traveling from Earth, the distance between Earth and the spacecraft actually decreases at certain times of the year"

Eric Mc

122,858 posts

272 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Aha - that makes sense, kind of.

But as the distance from the earth to the sun is 1 AU, that would only cause a maximum variation of 2 AUs depending on where the earth is in its annual trip around the sun.

It just shows how dynamic the solar system is.

HaiKarate

279 posts

141 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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RobM77 said:
What I find remarkable is that's a seriously big distance in human terms. Voyager 1 has been travelling at around 17km per sec for decades - night and day, 7 days a week, but it took it 35 years to reach the heliopause, the edge of the solar system. That's astonishing!
I believe the true extent of our solar system is out to approx 2 Light years, the extent of the Oort cloud, all be it hypothetical.

RobM77

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Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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HaiKarate said:
RobM77 said:
What I find remarkable is that's a seriously big distance in human terms. Voyager 1 has been travelling at around 17km per sec for decades - night and day, 7 days a week, but it took it 35 years to reach the heliopause, the edge of the solar system. That's astonishing!
I believe the true extent of our solar system is out to approx 2 Light years, the extent of the Oort cloud, all be it hypothetical.
It depends how you define it I guess. I rather like the heliopause definition. smile

RobM77

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Thursday 3rd August 2017
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HaiKarate said:
I wonder what the chances are of an Alien space-ship bumping into one of the voyagers at some stage? I suppose they will enter inter-galactic space around the time our sun burns out by which time it will be too late anyway.
I love the idea of one of the Voyager probes becoming a 'Rama' for another solar system, but I've no idea how likely that is, because we don't know how common life is. Given how far apart stars are in our galaxy (when galaxies 'collide' the stars just pass right by each other, the only interaction being remote via gravity), I suspect it'll spend most of its life in interstellar space, and I don't see a reason for an alien craft to be in such an area, given the prohibitively vast distances involved in interstellar travel. That said, without any corrosion in space, Voyager should just continue forever until it collides with something or gets trapped in orbit around another star; if the latter then I guess it depends what the percentage of stars are that are inhabited, which is something we don't know. One thing I do know is that I'm almost certain we'll all be dead and gone before it so much as sees another star! It does return me to my mention of Rama though: whatever the chances of Voyager finding another civilisation, by logic the chances of an alien probe entering our solar system are far greater, because there are bound to be more of them than us. The chances before we die out though? Very slim I'd have thought!

FunkyNige

9,161 posts

282 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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HaiKarate said:
I wonder what the chances are of an Alien space-ship bumping into one of the voyagers at some stage? I suppose they will enter inter-galactic space around the time our sun burns out by which time it will be too late anyway.
I'm rather hoping that a human in a spaceship overtakes them and bumps into whatever is out there waiting for us!

HaiKarate

279 posts

141 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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Well it would take a mere 23 hours if you set off now in your light speed spacecraft to reach V1.

louiechevy

668 posts

200 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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I must of got this wrong but my terrible maths say that if you could drive at a steady 60 mph it would take twenty four and a half ish thousand years to get to where voyager one is now, some one tell me I've got the wrong or right even smile