Ex-Machina...explained to me by a 12 year old
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This film intrigues me. And scares me. And yet I've found myself having to have it explained to me by my twelve year old son who is completely understanding of the subject. Yet probably not deemed old enough to view it on cinema release. Despite this being 'his future' - as he puts it.
I'd/we would be interested in opinions.
I'd/we would be interested in opinions.
From the trailer it seems to be very similar to last year's film 'The Machine'. I would like to see it.
I think it's probably another in the same vein as A.I where the boundaries of love, sentience, intelligence and rights between humans and machines are blurred.
I.e. what's real, can mecha feel pain and love and such like orga does or is it just a mimic program that appears to do so?
I think there's a bit in the trailer where one person asks what the creator will do with the outdated prototype robot when the new one supersedes it, and the outcome is probably that he will try to scrap/kill it because he doesn't recognise that it has real thoughts and feelings.
And the robot will kick his arse for that!
I think it's probably another in the same vein as A.I where the boundaries of love, sentience, intelligence and rights between humans and machines are blurred.
I.e. what's real, can mecha feel pain and love and such like orga does or is it just a mimic program that appears to do so?
I think there's a bit in the trailer where one person asks what the creator will do with the outdated prototype robot when the new one supersedes it, and the outcome is probably that he will try to scrap/kill it because he doesn't recognise that it has real thoughts and feelings.
And the robot will kick his arse for that!
k sake....stop running films in the trailersanonymous said:
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Ahh a fellow 'AI in film' buff! (As a guess from your name.) I actually had a long chat with one of the exec producers of The Machine before it came out, a friend of mine of my good friends, and an acquaintance of mine.
I liked The Machine, and considering the budget, it's pretty astonishing. He's currently working on (among other non sic-fi things) a film where in the future, everyone wears Google Glass type device all the time, and thus has control of their surroundings. The film is from the point of view of children, shot from behind the glasses, and when one of the children has more evil tendencies.
Ex-Machina's on my Lovefilm/Amazon list if/when it coms available.
anonymous said:
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I think there's many more themes to it, which concerns me that it's trying to cover too much? My lad loves this kind of stuff. He has so many theories on where the world and technology are headed, he writes them in a journal now, he scares me.
I envisage him being something of a Will Caster (Johnny Depp) character / Transcendence in the future. Hopefully a distant one where I have since passed.
Any other similar vein film recommendations also appreciated (he had read lots of Sci-Fi books and seen many already - even chose his mobile phone number last year to end '42').
ugofirst said:
I've just checked my local multi-plex and it's not out yet 
It is on at my local Odeon, they seem to showing previews today and tomorrowhttp://www.odeon.co.uk/films/ex_machina/15757/
Saw this tonight. Was pretty good - good, not great. It certainly keeps you guessing.
For those of you who have seen it...
Up until around 2/3rds of the way through I thought the beardy fella was an AI - and that the Asian woman was the real "boss" - watching the interaction between beardy and the competition winner
Anyone else think similar?
For those of you who have seen it...
Up until around 2/3rds of the way through I thought the beardy fella was an AI - and that the Asian woman was the real "boss" - watching the interaction between beardy and the competition winner
Anyone else think similar?
SydneyBridge said:
Saw this last night and it was excellent, we both really enjoyed it
I won't give anything away but you never quite know which way it's going, lots of questions are asked and some of them are answered!
Saw it yesterday and quite enjoyed it--not as scientifically orientated as I expected --but a good watch all the same .I won't give anything away but you never quite know which way it's going, lots of questions are asked and some of them are answered!
Excellent film - and if you have recently seen The Imitation Game and The Theory of Everything it resonates as both the Turing test is central to the plot and Hawking's fears about AI are also illustrated.Wonderful performance by female lead who gives the subtlest hints in her movement and speech that she is not one of us. Or is she ?
croyde said:
qube_TA said:
The posters for this state it's from the people that made Kick-Ass.
That was enough to put me off.
Kingsman is Kick Ass, you sure they were involved in this as well?That was enough to put me off.
& Kingsman is brilliant, don't let Kick Ass put you off that one!They aren't involved in this one.
The film actually explores the AI Box Breakout question and how it's likely there's no defence against it.
1 box (computer) containing an A.I. wanting to breakout into the world (or the Internet) versus gatekeepers (people) whose sole job is to prevent that happening and thus keep humans in control). It needs only get past the gatekeeper once for it to be game over.
It's what Hawking, Gates, Musk et all are trying to bring to everyones attention now before an A.I. is actually created.
The film depicts the A.I. achieving this due to its absolute lack of ethics. It pretends to have emotions and a burgeoning sexuality whilst getting to know its gatekeeper by simply talking to him from within it's cage (or 'box')
The film carries a very strong warning.
1 box (computer) containing an A.I. wanting to breakout into the world (or the Internet) versus gatekeepers (people) whose sole job is to prevent that happening and thus keep humans in control). It needs only get past the gatekeeper once for it to be game over.
It's what Hawking, Gates, Musk et all are trying to bring to everyones attention now before an A.I. is actually created.
The film depicts the A.I. achieving this due to its absolute lack of ethics. It pretends to have emotions and a burgeoning sexuality whilst getting to know its gatekeeper by simply talking to him from within it's cage (or 'box')
The film carries a very strong warning.
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