Fake or Fortune? BBC1

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Mr E Driver

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8,542 posts

191 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Radio Times said:
Fake or Fortune?
Sunday 19 June
7:00pm - 8:00pm
BBC1
Monet

1/4, series 1

Missing Antiques Roadshow?
This art-world caper is just as absorbing.
Fiona Bruce and art expert Philip Mould assess disputed paintings: can they settle ticklish questions of authenticity using science, connoisseurship and the far-reaching powers of TV? Their first case is a beautiful Monet riverscape bought by David Joel, now 82, many years ago, but which the authorities refuse to accept is genuine.
David is a brilliant character and the array of tests the painting has to pass are fascinating, including a scan by a 240-millionpixel camera, whose French inventor explains it can "peel back ze layers of paint like an ernion" (he demonstrates on the Mona Lisa).
The programme also shines light on the sinister levers of art world power in Paris. Plus, in what may be a TV first, Fiona Bruce loses her cool and gets quite cross. In French.

Radio Times reviewer - David Butcher
This should be of interest to anybody who collects stuff as there is a whole world of art faking out there which is really scary......

Legacywr

12,799 posts

195 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Watching it now.

Jasandjules

70,505 posts

236 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Legacywr said:
Watching it now.
Is it worth watching?

Legacywr

12,799 posts

195 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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5 mins in and it is quite interesting so far!

hyperblue

2,817 posts

187 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Legacywr said:
5 mins in and it is quite interesting so far!
+1. What do we reckon on the old boy's 'Monet'?

Legacywr

12,799 posts

195 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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They have to start on a high, don't they?

GALLARDOGUY

8,160 posts

226 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Absolutely ridiculous decision

Legacywr

12,799 posts

195 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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It's what you would expect from a french billionaire I guess!

GALLARDOGUY

8,160 posts

226 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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All because he doesn't want to admit his daddy made a mistake. Pathetic.

The French customs made me angry too.


pincher

9,035 posts

224 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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GALLARDOGUY said:
All because he doesn't want to admit his daddy made a mistake. Pathetic.

The French customs made me angry too.
And Fiona too.

She could talk French to me for hours wink

thetapeworm

11,900 posts

246 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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It amuses me to think that no artist is ever allowed to try a different brush, technique or paint something different for a change now and again - if the piece doesn't conform then it's not accepted.


cazzer

8,883 posts

255 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Everynow and again I warm to the french.

And then things happen that remind me why I think theyre a bunch of arses.

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

213 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Complete idiocy.
It's simply the Wildenstein institute refusing to accept, in the face of utterly overwhelming evidence, that their family made a mistake in the past.

Despite the fact that they had previously acccrdited paintings that turned out to be fakes.

It genuinely left me feeling angry, and desperately sorry for the old boy.

The system is a disgrace and so is the Wildenstein institute.

Legacywr

12,799 posts

195 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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I didn't spot it, but did the programe give a value for the painting as it currently stands?

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

213 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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No I don't think so - he paid 40k for it I think.
I can't work out whether it's worth more or less after the programme though.

Anyone who is anyone says it's a Monet - but the people who really matter say it is not.
I can't see how they are credible after that though.
Pound to a penny says the Wildenstein institute didn't know that there had been a programme made where they demonstrated beyond any doubt that it was authentic. More fool them.

audidoody

8,597 posts

263 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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The Wildenstein's are used to accepting obvious fakes. Isn't Guy's sister-in-law this creature?

http://tinyurl.com/3ugecjx

audidoody

8,597 posts

263 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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The Wildenstein's are used to accepting obvious fakes. Isn't Guy's sister-in-law this creature?

http://tinyurl.com/3ugecjx

audidoody

8,597 posts

263 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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The Wildenstein's are used to accepting obvious fakes. Isn't Guy's sister-in-law this creature?

http://tinyurl.com/3ugecjx

manic47

735 posts

172 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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If there was one link that shouldn't be multiple-posted, it was that one. yikes

Legacywr

12,799 posts

195 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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audidoody said:
The Wildenstein's are used to accepting obvious fakes. Isn't Guy's sister-in-law this creature?

http://tinyurl.com/3ugecjx
Fook me that is hideous!!