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thegreenhell said:
Red9zero said:
Hopefully the car driver got the book thrown at him ! Knocking you off and then running you over ?! WTF !
Er, the bike shouldn't have been overtaking a car that was turning right.RichB said:
p1stonhead said:
Sway said:
Crikey, reminds me so much of the very, very early years of the Festival of Speed...
Which was an event I loved for a long time, and now despite living a five minute bike ride from, just can't be arsed to go to anymore.
The VIP experience I’m sure is lovely, but having been to the FOS a few times now as a pleb, I’m done. It’s ridiculously busy and expensive. Which was an event I loved for a long time, and now despite living a five minute bike ride from, just can't be arsed to go to anymore.
The car show I want to try now is the Festival of the unexceptional, but I understand even that has grown so much in a few years as word has got round, that it is moving away a little from its starting USP.
The Goodwood Revival is wonderful too isn't it. Have only been once, in 2003 and really need to go again!!
Unreal said:
thegreenhell said:
Red9zero said:
Hopefully the car driver got the book thrown at him ! Knocking you off and then running you over ?! WTF !
Er, the bike shouldn't have been overtaking a car that was turning right.Red9zero said:
Unreal said:
thegreenhell said:
Red9zero said:
Hopefully the car driver got the book thrown at him ! Knocking you off and then running you over ?! WTF !
Er, the bike shouldn't have been overtaking a car that was turning right.Red9zero said:
Hopefully the car driver got the book thrown at him ! Knocking you off and then running you over ?! WTF !
No sadly. Police decided to take no action against anyone.Sway said:
Plot twist, Richard was driving the car and now can't go to FoS cause he got a ban!
LOLPlywoodPascal said:
that looks utterly horrible
at the end of the video you can see the chap who starts to run towards the biker stop dead in horror.
I hope you have recovered as much as is possible.
at the end of the video you can see the chap who starts to run towards the biker stop dead in horror.
I hope you have recovered as much as is possible.
Sway said:
You alright?
The witnesses all said they thought I was dead: I wasn't breathing and they could see blood coming out of my ears, but I then began moving and started spluttering.My Apple Watch shows my heart being stopped for a while...
From the top:
- jaw broken in 3 places
- fractured larynx
- 4 broken vertebrae
- 2 fingers de-gloved, reconstructed, one amputated after a week (gangrene after the leeches weren't applied correctly...) and the second amputated after a year because it wasn't mending straight
- pelvis fractured in two places requiring a stainless band, bolting and plating (the band was removed a year later because it was too painful to keep in, but the rest is still in)
- nerve damage in one leg
thegreenhell said:
Er, the bike shouldn't have been overtaking a car that was turning right.
It wasn't until I got to it. I was braking and steering to the right in the vain hope he'd finally check if anything was coming and I'd go around him. If I hadn't braked, I'd have probably Supermaned over the car and not been as badly injured.Unreal said:
Watch another couple of the rider's videos. He's an organ donor in waiting.
Yes, obviously. That's why I was a trackday instructor and have only had this crash in 46 years of driving/riding. My satnav shows I wasn't speeding at any time before the crash.Red9zero said:
Was the car indicating ? Did he check his mirrors before turning ?
No. No. If he had looked at any time, it wouldn't have happened.RichardHMorris said:
Red9zero said:
Hopefully the car driver got the book thrown at him ! Knocking you off and then running you over ?! WTF !
No sadly. Police decided to take no action against anyone.Sway said:
Plot twist, Richard was driving the car and now can't go to FoS cause he got a ban!
LOLPlywoodPascal said:
that looks utterly horrible
at the end of the video you can see the chap who starts to run towards the biker stop dead in horror.
I hope you have recovered as much as is possible.
at the end of the video you can see the chap who starts to run towards the biker stop dead in horror.
I hope you have recovered as much as is possible.
Sway said:
You alright?
The witnesses all said they thought I was dead: I wasn't breathing and they could see blood coming out of my ears, but I then began moving and started spluttering.My Apple Watch shows my heart being stopped for a while...
From the top:
- jaw broken in 3 places
- fractured larynx
- 4 broken vertebrae
- 2 fingers de-gloved, reconstructed, one amputated after a week (gangrene after the leeches weren't applied correctly...) and the second amputated after a year because it wasn't mending straight
- pelvis fractured in two places requiring a stainless band, bolting and plating (the band was removed a year later because it was too painful to keep in, but the rest is still in)
- nerve damage in one leg
thegreenhell said:
Er, the bike shouldn't have been overtaking a car that was turning right.
It wasn't until I got to it. I was braking and steering to the right in the vain hope he'd finally check if anything was coming and I'd go around him. If I hadn't braked, I'd have probably Supermaned over the car and not been as badly injured.Unreal said:
Watch another couple of the rider's videos. He's an organ donor in waiting.
Yes, obviously. That's why I was a trackday instructor and have only had this crash in 46 years of driving/riding. My satnav shows I wasn't speeding at any time before the crash. Red9zero said:
Was the car indicating ? Did he check his mirrors before turning ?
No. No. If he had looked at any time, it wouldn't have happened.Enlighten us with your experience. Why were you overtaking cars at a considerable speed differential (the legal limit is irrelevant) approaching and opposite an obvious hazard?
That was a horrible crash mate. Hope you get over your injuries as best you can.
Not wanting to join the confrontational 'all his fault' comments I just wanted to share something I picked up recently on a Bikesafe day from the policeman observing me. He picked me up on overtaking two cars when there was a lay-by on the offside. I explained that the lay-by was empty and the cars I were overtaking were not indicating. He pointed out that other drivers do some mad sh!t like not checking mirrors, not indicating and not looking for bikes when turning right. The example he gave was kids in the car suddenly needing the toilet or feeling sick.
As I say, I’m not piling on. If we’re honest all bikers have done the same at some time and luckily usually get away with it. But the policeman’s comments have, and your video will, make me more circumspect when going for an overtake.
Not wanting to join the confrontational 'all his fault' comments I just wanted to share something I picked up recently on a Bikesafe day from the policeman observing me. He picked me up on overtaking two cars when there was a lay-by on the offside. I explained that the lay-by was empty and the cars I were overtaking were not indicating. He pointed out that other drivers do some mad sh!t like not checking mirrors, not indicating and not looking for bikes when turning right. The example he gave was kids in the car suddenly needing the toilet or feeling sick.
As I say, I’m not piling on. If we’re honest all bikers have done the same at some time and luckily usually get away with it. But the policeman’s comments have, and your video will, make me more circumspect when going for an overtake.
Edited by Cabbage Patch on Tuesday 9th July 10:23
I did my direct access about 25 years ago the lessons live with me to this day - one of which is never overtake near a junction. Today, even in a car, I always drive defensively. If someone can pull out/pull in etc. they will. We can't eliminate risk but there's low hanging fruit.
My ex-wife's uncle was killed on a bike... overtaking a car at a junction. Idiot. It didn't need to happen. Being alive is better than being right.
Sorry to whoever here was injured, and all the best.
My ex-wife's uncle was killed on a bike... overtaking a car at a junction. Idiot. It didn't need to happen. Being alive is better than being right.
Sorry to whoever here was injured, and all the best.
DonkeyApple said:
The important thing is that despite injuries everyone is still here. Over taking next to a car park doesn't seem logical. We've probably all made silly judgements when younger and got away with it but learned we were being very silly.
Yep, but this fella doesn’t seem to think he was in the wrong!gareth h said:
DonkeyApple said:
The important thing is that despite injuries everyone is still here. Over taking next to a car park doesn't seem logical. We've probably all made silly judgements when younger and got away with it but learned we were being very silly.
Yep, but this fella doesn’t seem to think he was in the wrong!Whether indicating or not the attitude of the car with it slowing and even crossing the line it was clear where it was going. The car park on the right also makes it an absolute no go for passing anything at that point. Turning with the guaranteed direction of travel of the car was a huge learner error and with more experience or skill you don't mentally lock up like that and flow into the inevitable but mentally adjust and re aim for where the gap is opening not closing. That's something we are all guilty of as learners and for many years after unless we give ourselves plenty of track experience etc.
Unfortunately, it was just a poor decision made several hundred yards before the car decided to not use its mirrors while turning right (such is the exuberance of youth). A desperately poor decision to ever assume a car driver ever checks their door mirrors in such circumstance (again the inexperience of youth). And the brain freeze that causes people to just keep turning and flowing into the accident is something in all of us that takes years of track practice really to reprogram.
But what is important and all that matters is that the young and inexperienced biker, probably over excited at their first FOS event and doing what young adults tend to do when they go to a fast vehicle event in a fast vehicle, survived and now hopefully has many decades of biking ahead of them.
DonkeyApple said:
To be fair that'll just be bravado. It's far too obvious what all the errors were and why charges weren't pressed against the biker.
Whether indicating or not the attitude of the car with it slowing and even crossing the line it was clear where it was going. The car park on the right also makes it an absolute no go for passing anything at that point. Turning with the guaranteed direction of travel of the car was a huge learner error and with more experience or skill you don't mentally lock up like that and flow into the inevitable but mentally adjust and re aim for where the gap is opening not closing. That's something we are all guilty of as learners and for many years after unless we give ourselves plenty of track experience etc.
Unfortunately, it was just a poor decision made several hundred yards before the car decided to not use its mirrors while turning right (such is the exuberance of youth). A desperately poor decision to ever assume a car driver ever checks their door mirrors in such circumstance (again the inexperience of youth). And the brain freeze that causes people to just keep turning and flowing into the accident is something in all of us that takes years of track practice really to reprogram.
But what is important and all that matters is that the young and inexperienced biker, probably over excited at their first FOS event and doing what young adults tend to do when they go to a fast vehicle event in a fast vehicle, survived and now hopefully has many decades of biking ahead of them.
easy tiger, this chap is an instructor. Whether indicating or not the attitude of the car with it slowing and even crossing the line it was clear where it was going. The car park on the right also makes it an absolute no go for passing anything at that point. Turning with the guaranteed direction of travel of the car was a huge learner error and with more experience or skill you don't mentally lock up like that and flow into the inevitable but mentally adjust and re aim for where the gap is opening not closing. That's something we are all guilty of as learners and for many years after unless we give ourselves plenty of track experience etc.
Unfortunately, it was just a poor decision made several hundred yards before the car decided to not use its mirrors while turning right (such is the exuberance of youth). A desperately poor decision to ever assume a car driver ever checks their door mirrors in such circumstance (again the inexperience of youth). And the brain freeze that causes people to just keep turning and flowing into the accident is something in all of us that takes years of track practice really to reprogram.
But what is important and all that matters is that the young and inexperienced biker, probably over excited at their first FOS event and doing what young adults tend to do when they go to a fast vehicle event in a fast vehicle, survived and now hopefully has many decades of biking ahead of them.
Not sure if my bike was in that position and it ended in that crash, that it would be something I would be sharing
back to the vid, anyone else think that they will struggle to sell more than one of those Alpine long tail thingys?
That Berger spec Ferrari, stunning
pneumothorax said:
back to the vid, anyone else think that they will struggle to sell more than one of those Alpine long tail thingys?
That Berger spec Ferrari, stunning
That Alpine was a bit odd. I assume some of the gubbins round the back in some shots was some kind of storage frame ? That Berger spec Ferrari, stunning
Agreed about the Ferrari. Good to see it gets used too.
pneumothorax said:
easy tiger, this chap is an instructor.
Not sure if my bike was in that position and it ended in that crash, that it would be something I would be sharing
back to the vid, anyone else think that they will struggle to sell more than one of those Alpine long tail thingys?
That Berger spec Ferrari, stunning
According to Harry, so far they have sold 10 of 19. Not sure if my bike was in that position and it ended in that crash, that it would be something I would be sharing
back to the vid, anyone else think that they will struggle to sell more than one of those Alpine long tail thingys?
That Berger spec Ferrari, stunning
I don't really like the car that much, but there are probably enough wealthy Zagato collectors.
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