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AnotherClarkey

3,611 posts

192 months

E90_M3Ross said:
Isebac said:
thegreenhell said:
The McLaren is a lot quicker on paper, and probably even more so in the real world.

1/4 mile in 10.4 vs 11.3

In fact the 650S accelerates faster than a McLaren F1 in all increments up to 140mph.
Numbers are one thing, the sensation is another.

Cars with manual transmissions lose ~0.5s on every shift, while cars with DCTs lose nothing.
Not in a 1/4 mile drag race they don't. Whilst it might take 1/2 second to change gear, for that 1/2 second the car is still moving....
Moving but not accelerating.

740EVTORQUES

772 posts

4 months

In pure acceleration terms surely the best solution is a sequential gear box? Less weight than a DCT and (virtually) seamless shifts, plus no torque convertor to sap power.

E90_M3Ross

35,251 posts

215 months

AnotherClarkey said:
E90_M3Ross said:
Isebac said:
thegreenhell said:
The McLaren is a lot quicker on paper, and probably even more so in the real world.

1/4 mile in 10.4 vs 11.3

In fact the 650S accelerates faster than a McLaren F1 in all increments up to 140mph.
Numbers are one thing, the sensation is another.

Cars with manual transmissions lose ~0.5s on every shift, while cars with DCTs lose nothing.
Not in a 1/4 mile drag race they don't. Whilst it might take 1/2 second to change gear, for that 1/2 second the car is still moving....
Moving but not accelerating.
Yes, that was my point smile

Greg_B

206 posts

43 months

Yesterday (16:16)
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I am a huge Harry fan and always enjoy watching his weekly videos. I did understand his “falling out of love with the company” explanation regarding Lotus in the video straight away, so moving on after what seemed like a short period of ownership, while a bit of a surprise, wasn’t all that shocking. Watching the McLaren road trip he did a few months ago made the purchase also unsurprising. In all candour though, I found the selection of this particular car a bit of a disappointment. Like Harry, I dislike black cars, but I also dislike paint colors that “read” as black most of the time unless they are in bright light, as this one is, a sin many manufacturers are guilty of. Then when I saw all the carbon fiber bits that were mostly for flash than function, I raised my other eyebrow, as it didn’t seem the kind of thing an English country gentleman would go for. Finally when he opened the door to show the yellow McLaren graphics on the sill It was a bit much. Perhaps that could be fixed with some black tape overlays. Hopefully the driving experience will overcome all those things. An interesting road ahead no doubt!

ArgonautX

219 posts

54 months

Yesterday (17:39)
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Greg_B said:
I am a huge Harry fan and always enjoy watching his weekly videos. I did understand his “falling out of love with the company” explanation regarding Lotus in the video straight away, so moving on after what seemed like a short period of ownership, while a bit of a surprise, wasn’t all that shocking. Watching the McLaren road trip he did a few months ago made the purchase also unsurprising. In all candour though, I found the selection of this particular car a bit of a disappointment. Like Harry, I dislike black cars, but I also dislike paint colors that “read” as black most of the time unless they are in bright light, as this one is, a sin many manufacturers are guilty of. Then when I saw all the carbon fiber bits that were mostly for flash than function, I raised my other eyebrow, as it didn’t seem the kind of thing an English country gentleman would go for. Finally when he opened the door to show the yellow McLaren graphics on the sill It was a bit much. Perhaps that could be fixed with some black tape overlays. Hopefully the driving experience will overcome all those things. An interesting road ahead no doubt!
yeah, he will have to protect all that CF(if it isn't already protected) if he means to use it as most of his other cars and do road trips abroad. I do remember he criticized similar CF parts on that McLaren GT he tested before, but I guess he was probably somewhat limited in choice and wanted the best car he could find, CF parts or not.

Venisonpie

3,352 posts

85 months

Yesterday (18:01)
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Interesting review of the Boxster, the drivetrain is epic but I really don't like the rest of the car. Given how close in price it is with the 650s the latter is a more desirable option IMO.

E90_M3Ross

35,251 posts

215 months

Yesterday (18:04)
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Venisonpie said:
Interesting review of the Boxster, the drivetrain is epic but I really don't like the rest of the car. Given how close in price it is with the 650s the latter is a more desirable option IMO.
Quite, although whilst purchase price may well be similar, I suspect costs in terms of insurance, servicing etc to be a significant difference, although I could be wrong!

SydneyBridge

8,844 posts

161 months

Yesterday (18:04)
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Love the Porsche, as long as you can leave the roof down and never have to touch it

DonkeyApple

56,524 posts

172 months

Yesterday (18:14)
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Venisonpie said:
Interesting review of the Boxster, the drivetrain is epic but I really don't like the rest of the car. Given how close in price it is with the 650s the latter is a more desirable option IMO.
It sounds great and appears to drive sublimely but it's a bit of chunky, inelegant thing. More warthog than gazelle.

p1stonhead

25,886 posts

170 months

Yesterday (18:52)
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SydneyBridge said:
Love the Porsche, as long as you can leave the roof down and never have to touch it
Easy. Just don’t live in the UK.

LM240

4,751 posts

221 months

Yesterday (19:01)
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SydneyBridge said:
Love the Porsche, as long as you can leave the roof down and never have to touch it
Literally a 60 second job and very much part of the character of the car.

Glad Harry didn’t do the stupid Top Gear style roof nonsense. After doing it once or twice, it really is a very simple process.

Unfortunately don’t have the Spyder RS, but roof on my 987 Spyder is near enough identical in how it works.

Recently grown really fond of using it with roof on and the rear panel off and windows down. Did most of Le Mans weekend that way (and because it was drizzle most times whilst driving).

The sound of that RS is lovely. For me, a manual gearbox would make it even better. They do look good in the Vanadium grey or GT silver paint option. Goes well with the extra carbon fibre.

Isebac

237 posts

41 months

Yesterday (19:03)
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Yeah, great car, but the roof is a joke. It really kills it for me. It's like... what do you want? 20kg less, or a car that's actually usable? Hmmm.........

SteBrown91

2,429 posts

132 months

Yesterday (19:41)
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Harry is used to faffy lightweight roofs with his project 7 so I guess to him it’s not a big deal really

Smollet

10,895 posts

193 months

Yesterday (19:55)
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SydneyBridge said:
Love the Porsche, as long as you can leave the roof down and never have to touch it
Yes. Compared with more mundane Boxsters it dies look like a bit of a palaver in putting up.

Mars

8,812 posts

217 months

Yesterday (23:40)
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Another non-manual, and a roof that looks more complex than the one for my Caterham.

I do love this variant of the Boxster but really, I couldn't pay that sort of money with those two compromises.

gruffgriff

1,643 posts

246 months

Bloody hell, 500hp in a Boxster! Should be epic to look at too though...sadly not. I regret I dozed off a bit.
Sorry Harry. May we have some old metal, a pub trip in the Rolls, update on the farm fleet, deep dive on tractor pto tools, bikes, stone walls, anything but more new BMWs, Porsches and Range Rovers please?

ChocolateFrog

26,359 posts

176 months

A version of the Boxster with that engine and none of the lead lined carbon bits or silly roof would be vastly superior.

A Boxster GT4 Touring.

Smollet

10,895 posts

193 months

ChocolateFrog said:
A version of the Boxster with that engine and none of the lead lined carbon bits or silly roof would be vastly superior.

A Boxster GT4 Touring.
Agreed

sisu

2,660 posts

176 months

gruffgriff said:
Bloody hell, 500hp in a Boxster! Should be epic to look at too though...sadly not. I regret I dozed off a bit.
Sorry Harry. May we have some old metal, a pub trip in the Rolls, update on the farm fleet, deep dive on tractor pto tools, bikes, stone walls, anything but more new BMWs, Porsches and Range Rovers please?
Yes Manitou have launched an electric telehandler due later out this year.


epom

11,811 posts

164 months

Am I the only one that was going for a little more in depth ? I appreciate there’s only so much you can do but felt like I was wanting more.

The cars itself seems to be epic, not so sure how it would translate to poor Irish roads though.