Clarkson’s Farm

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WestyCarl

3,354 posts

128 months

Monday 8th July
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Frankly he could just serve netttle tea and crisps all homemade form his farm for £10 and people would still be queing outside.

His "cancelling" over the Megan article seems a long time ago

Wheel Turned Out

754 posts

41 months

Monday 8th July
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Seems like his "Clarksonland" theme park is getting another site. biglaugh

How is Hawkstone? Is it actually any good or does it get by just because it's Clarkson's?

Red9zero

7,330 posts

60 months

Monday 8th July
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Wheel Turned Out said:
Seems like his "Clarksonland" theme park is getting another site. biglaugh

How is Hawkstone? Is it actually any good or does it get by just because it's Clarkson's?
I've tried the cider and it was quite nice. Our local off licence has started selling it, but I will stick to my Ashton Press I think.

abzmike

8,788 posts

109 months

Monday 8th July
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If the locals or the council thought the traffic was bad from his shop, wait until they see whats it's like going to and from his pub thats open 11-11, 7 days a week.

bobthemonkey

3,879 posts

219 months

Monday 8th July
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abzmike said:
If the locals or the council thought the traffic was bad from his shop, wait until they see whats it's like going to and from his pub thats open 11-11, 7 days a week.
Will be very different in so much that the current site is down a long, narrow lane with few passing places.

The new pub is practically on its own exit from a roundabout on an A road, which becomes a modern dual carriageway to the east.

UTH

9,111 posts

181 months

Monday 8th July
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Wheel Turned Out said:
Seems like his "Clarksonland" theme park is getting another site. biglaugh

How is Hawkstone? Is it actually any good or does it get by just because it's Clarkson's?
I bought some to give it a go, because why not......and it's excellent. I immediately signed up to a recurring delivery once a month of 24 bottles, I thoroughly recommend it (the original Lager, not tried any of the other variations he's come out with)

My July box is due to arrive today, actually. Good job it's not sunny, I might have been tempted by a Monday beer if it was.

james6546

1,062 posts

54 months

Monday 8th July
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Wheel Turned Out said:
Seems like his "Clarksonland" theme park is getting another site. biglaugh

How is Hawkstone? Is it actually any good or does it get by just because it's Clarkson's?
It’s in my local, I’d rather have neck oil, but I don’t mind it

Sway

26,918 posts

197 months

Monday 8th July
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bobthemonkey said:
abzmike said:
If the locals or the council thought the traffic was bad from his shop, wait until they see whats it's like going to and from his pub thats open 11-11, 7 days a week.
Will be very different in so much that the current site is down a long, narrow lane with few passing places.

The new pub is practically on its own exit from a roundabout on an A road, which becomes a modern dual carriageway to the east.
With the space, an existing hospitality business, and effective transport - I wouldn't be surprised to see the farm shop move, and have far fewer restrictions on the merch.

simon_harris

1,538 posts

37 months

Monday 8th July
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Sway said:
With the space, an existing hospitality business, and effective transport - I wouldn't be surprised to see the farm shop move, and have far fewer restrictions on the merch.
Don't even need to move the farm shop - just add another "branch"

FiF

44,614 posts

254 months

Monday 8th July
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Sway said:
With the space, an existing hospitality business, and effective transport - I wouldn't be surprised to see the farm shop move, and have far fewer restrictions on the merch.
Exactly, love it when a 'plan' comes together.

the-norseman

12,800 posts

174 months

Monday 8th July
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Hawkstone beer was ok but I wouldn't go out of my way to get it.

Mezzanine

9,408 posts

222 months

Monday 8th July
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It’s great content for the next couple of series if nothing else, I imagine viewers will get bored of revisiting anything covered in the current series so he has to stretch it out a bit.

I’ve tried the Hawkstone IPA and it was very nice indeed. It was brewed for him by an existing brewery, has he essentially purchased that too?

TheDeuce

23,053 posts

69 months

Monday 8th July
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abzmike said:
If the locals or the council thought the traffic was bad from his shop, wait until they see whats it's like going to and from his pub thats open 11-11, 7 days a week.
The funny thing is.. Some of the locals and the council were opposed to the farm shop once they realised how popular it was - and tried to effectively close it by doing all they could to block the car park and simultaneously complain about people parking on the road. They didn't want the restaurant etc, it would just bring even more people..

BUT that's probably a big part of why he's bought the pub - because it already exists, has permission to exist and can do all he needed to do at the farm shop site. It can be a restaurant, it can sell whatever merch it wishes too, it can obviously sell beer etc. And no matter how busy it gets there is no leverage the locals or council can use to try and limit it's appeal, because it already has exists and has all it needs to trade.

I mean.. If I bought a sleepy village pub and somehow made it so incredible that 1200 people a day popped in for a pint, the locals would be bemused for sure but, what could they do? It would just be a wildly popular pub! There's no limit to how many punters a business can attract once it's there.

paulw123

3,422 posts

193 months

Monday 8th July
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I enjoyed the hawkstone lager. I'd buy it again if I came across it in a shop.
I went there a year or so ago. Pleasant enough hour or so spent there had a look in the shop and a pint round the back. Was a nice sunny day and only a short queue plus I was in the area anyway. Enjoyed it but wouldn't go back especially.

Think he will do well with the pub idea. I assume it will get a full refit using Amazon money and he can highlight the plight of British pubs, just like he did with farmers.

48k

13,439 posts

151 months

Monday 8th July
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Sway said:
bobthemonkey said:
abzmike said:
If the locals or the council thought the traffic was bad from his shop, wait until they see whats it's like going to and from his pub thats open 11-11, 7 days a week.
Will be very different in so much that the current site is down a long, narrow lane with few passing places.

The new pub is practically on its own exit from a roundabout on an A road, which becomes a modern dual carriageway to the east.
With the space, an existing hospitality business, and effective transport - I wouldn't be surprised to see the farm shop move, and have far fewer restrictions on the merch.
A drinking establishment is a different planning use class to commercial retail/shop, so he'd have to apply for planning permission for change of use....

pingu393

8,327 posts

208 months

Monday 8th July
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48k said:
A drinking establishment is a different planning use class to commercial retail/shop, so he'd have to apply for planning permission for change of use....
From a knocking shop to a pub?

TheDeuce

23,053 posts

69 months

Monday 8th July
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48k said:
Sway said:
bobthemonkey said:
abzmike said:
If the locals or the council thought the traffic was bad from his shop, wait until they see whats it's like going to and from his pub thats open 11-11, 7 days a week.
Will be very different in so much that the current site is down a long, narrow lane with few passing places.

The new pub is practically on its own exit from a roundabout on an A road, which becomes a modern dual carriageway to the east.
With the space, an existing hospitality business, and effective transport - I wouldn't be surprised to see the farm shop move, and have far fewer restrictions on the merch.
A drinking establishment is a different planning use class to commercial retail/shop, so he'd have to apply for planning permission for change of use....
Is there anything to stop a pub selling local groceries and jars if sauce, hats and t-shirts etc?

Pubs in tourist areas sometimes sell t-shirts and one in a village I used to live in sold milk, sugar, eggs etc in the mornings.

Obviously it still has to be predominantly a pub, but it could be.

All they really need to get out of the actual farm shop is the non-local merch. The pub can sell that all day long with no usage change required.

brickwall

5,280 posts

213 months

Monday 8th July
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I mean, he could also just buy a retail unit in a nearby village (Chadlington, Chipping Norton, etc.) and then use that as the farm shop if really needed.

WestyCarl

3,354 posts

128 months

Monday 8th July
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brickwall said:
I mean, he could also just buy a retail unit in a nearby village (Chadlington, Chipping Norton, etc.) and then use that as the farm shop if really needed.
That would be the sensible way to go, but then he wouldn't have all the great TV battles with the local council wink

TheDeuce

23,053 posts

69 months

Monday 8th July
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brickwall said:
I mean, he could also just buy a retail unit in a nearby village (Chadlington, Chipping Norton, etc.) and then use that as the farm shop if really needed.
That's true, but I can see why he would have wanted to have his own setup, on his own land, all built to suit their needs for the shop etc, including be simple and controllable in terms of filming.

That's my point really, by making what he ideally wanted so difficult, the locals may have actually done their bit to motivate the buying of a pub - which they could well end up loathing more than the shop/restaurant combo.

I'm aware that in the recent series it was revealed that they had won the appeal and can now have the restaurant and car park, but what they can sell is still limited to only local produce, which is fine for most things but not for the merch, which I'm sure must make a LOT of money.