Grand Designs On Now Ch4

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TedMaul

2,092 posts

216 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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When you saw the guys shops, didn't they look like the shops in "I saw you coming" sketches from Harry and Paul Show.

Could have been a great house to rival the Woodsmans Cottage (which is still the best imo) but being a div over the planning permission and making out he was the victim, really not making a very spacious house (two bedrooms upstairs when 3rd kid on the way?) just left me feeling that although the guy has great drive and determination, he was a bit of a wally. Nice but dim to carry on the Harry Enfield theme.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

252 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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Swilly said:
Nope still the same
not sure it is, he painted it orange and then stripped it out and has put back a fairly standard shopfront and painted it grey

Swilly

9,699 posts

277 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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Horse_Apple said:
You live in a beautiful, scenic part of the English countryside for years and then some mentalist drives up from London and builds an 80 foot tall Oompa Loompa next door.

I'd have gone and bought a box of Swan Vestas. Poor sod.
In a hundred years, someone living in that oompa loompa will say just what you have said.

Conservatism is dependent on progress.

Without progress there would not be anything for future generations to conserve.

Swilly

9,699 posts

277 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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sleep envy said:
Swilly said:
Nope still the same
not sure it is, he painted it orange and then stripped it out and has put back a fairly standard shopfront and painted it grey
In which case ive blanked out in my mind any changes hehe

mouk786

1,263 posts

200 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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ewenm said:
mouk786 said:
is no one going to mention was a knob the presenter is?

i wonder what kind of a dive he lives in.
I don't think McCloud is that bad and I suspect he lives in a very nice place.
His constant digs and pessimissm are annoying

It wouldn;t surprise me if Grand Designs/KM were the myterious neighbours who put in an objection!

cj_eds

1,567 posts

224 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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ewenm said:
mouk786 said:
is no one going to mention was a knob the presenter is?

i wonder what kind of a dive he lives in.
I don't think McCloud is that bad and I suspect he lives in a very nice place.
Something thats been apparent this series is that its featured bits Kevin recorded a couple of years ago, and it shows in his enthusiasm. The last couple of series he's been quite scathing and generally appeared to have lost his enthusiasm as he's had to fly & drive around the country to see big glass ego-building boxes constructed by people with more money than sense. Last weeks one featured a bit recorded some time ago when he was still into his cardboard model building and big grins as he demonstrates the cardboard house falling down because they've removed bit XYZ.

TedMaul

2,092 posts

216 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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mouk786 said:
His constant digs and pessimissm are annoying
To a degree yes, but in the last couple of years I have had the joy of dealing with several council planning departments, attended committees such as the one shown last night not to mention building regs folks. I think for the most part he is actually quite realistic and appreciates the stress, delays and costs incurred by not doing things by the book and doing it right first time.

r1chardb

223 posts

245 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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robinhood21 said:
Pesty said:
robinhood21 said:
Mind, if I remember right, this chap fell foul of planning with his shopfront in Muswell Hill.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3715118....

Edited by Pesty on Wednesday 4th February 21:45
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"Mr Ostwald has one moth to remove the frontage or appeal."

That's going to take f**king forever!

Horse_Apple

3,795 posts

245 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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Swilly said:
Horse_Apple said:
You live in a beautiful, scenic part of the English countryside for years and then some mentalist drives up from London and builds an 80 foot tall Oompa Loompa next door.

I'd have gone and bought a box of Swan Vestas. Poor sod.
In a hundred years, someone living in that oompa loompa will say just what you have said.

Conservatism is dependent on progress.

Without progress there would not be anything for future generations to conserve.
Hopefully, in 100 years that paint would have faded wink

I liked the property but think he should have bought all the paint from Farrow and Ball rather than Enus and Cleetus.

Oakey

27,631 posts

219 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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Anyone managed to pinpoint it on Live maps yet?

Highway Star

3,579 posts

234 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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Ok, sitting on the fence here...

The bloke was an arrogant, London-centric borderline narcissist with some serious issues who instead of spending three years playing about with a massive midlife-crisis flat-pack, frittering away his pension fund and putting his businesses and future security at risk, should have just grown a pair and spent his time with his growing family and his wife when she needed him.

The bit where he bleated on about unfair planning regs were and how he'd 'thought I'd left that sort of sh*t behind in London' - WTF? Did he expect Oxfordshire not to have planning regulations? Is it not a real place, like London? For Christ's sake he was banging on about it like it was the wild frontier when he's no more than 10 miles from Wycombe and a giant Asda, Tescos and John Lewis an 5 minutes from the M40.

He may be seen as 'eccentric' (personally I think to be classed as 'eccentric' you have to have some degree of personality), but ultimately he's created misery for himself, his family and his neighbours, missed out on the first important part of his son's life and gambled on their future security. All for something that is quite frankly bloody ugly and looks like the jerry-built, characterless out-of-box family homes thrown up on the outskirts of every town in the American Midwest.

If his aim as stated at the start of the programme was to build something that looked like it was 100s of years old which they'd just discovered and then renovated, then it was an epic failure.

On the plus side, we spotted our neighbour in his car following him on his way to SODC.

Edited by Highway Star on Thursday 5th February 11:08

scotal

8,751 posts

282 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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How close do you live to his mill HS?? not close enough to complain about ridge heights perchance?

Wacky Racer

38,479 posts

250 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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Did anyone notice any groundworks being done during construction, drain pipes in ditches etc??.......

Anyone thought the guy looked like Queen guitarist Brian May's twin brother.........smile

scotal

8,751 posts

282 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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The foundations were already on site at the first visit, I guess what needed to be bone was done then?

mouk786

1,263 posts

200 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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scotal said:
ewenm said:
mouk786 said:
is no one going to mention was a knob the presenter is?

i wonder what kind of a dive he lives in.
I don't think McCloud is that bad and I suspect he lives in a very nice place.
He's got a farm I think. He built his own shed on one show, out of some mud/clay/straw/horsest mix.
Does look like a nice place.
I bet if KM was reviewing his own place when someone else was building it, he would find faults with it!

edwardsje

27,687 posts

226 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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Horse_Apple said:
You live in a beautiful, scenic part of the English countryside for years and then some mentalist drives up from London and builds an 80 foot tall Oompa Loompa next door.

I'd have gone and bought a box of Swan Vestas. Poor sod.
If it's where I think it is, all the houses overlook an industrial unit, amongst other things (halfway up the hill to Stokenchurch, on the bend). Beyond that and the old A40 begin the views.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

252 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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Bungleaio said:
Wacky Racer said:
I wonder if he will ask his neighbour in for a coffee?........laugh
I bet he'll be tempted to push them out the patio doors if he does.
which one - the building is all patio doors at grade

sleep envy

62,260 posts

252 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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Swilly said:
sleep envy said:
Swilly said:
Nope still the same
not sure it is, he painted it orange and then stripped it out and has put back a fairly standard shopfront and painted it grey
In which case ive blanked out in my mind any changes hehe
just finished watching it - there is a snap shot of the front of the shop as it is now when he discusses the downturn in the market

BTW

GD'er - I like this wiring, it's a bit of startship enterprise?

KM - hmmmm, anyway...

rofl

Highway Star

3,579 posts

234 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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scotal said:
How close do you live to his mill HS?? not close enough to complain about ridge heights perchance?
Not *that* close wink But I could see the torches blazing bright when the local angry mob of good 'ole boys confronted him about not being from round these parts. biggrin

blade runner

1,035 posts

215 months

Thursday 5th February 2009
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Highway Star said:
He may be seen as 'eccentric' (personally I think to be classed as 'eccentric' you have to have some degree of personality), but ultimately he's created misery for himself, his family and his neighbours, missed out on the first important part of his son's life and gambled on their future security. All for something that is quite frankly bloody ugly and looks like the jerry-built, characterless out-of-box family homes thrown up on the outskirts of every town in the American Midwest.

If his aim as stated at the start of the programme was to build something that looked like it was 100s of years old which they'd just discovered and then renovated, then it was an epic failure.
Agree. What a stunning waste of a fabulous hill-side plot... I'm amazed he ever got planning permission for something quite so ugly and out of character. Who ever heard of a water mill on the side of a 'waterless' hill anyway? The barn he had the frame stored in was actually far nicer than the finished house itself. And what was all that about staining the (natural) cedar wood that revolting artificial orange colour? Left alone, cedar would have mellowed just fine over a few years and blended into the woodland perfectly.

With a plot like that why not do somethething a bit more interesting? So much potential from that site so utterly wasted. Personally, I'd have done something more like Frank Lloyd Wright's Falling Water on a plot like that.