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Episode 4 was great. Homelander in the lab at the end was similar in a way to the swat team in the cabin in season 2, you don't see how he killed them all, you just see him covered in blood when it's done. Sage is my favourite in this series so far, playing chess with them all and they don't know it 
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at the lobotomy scene though.
, at the lobotomy scene though.Caught up on 3 and 4 over the weekend. From 1-4 we've seen Homelander slowly come apart and become more and more psychotic and this, to me at least, feels like exactly the right tone we should have. We're now at the stage where Homelander is totally off the rails and literally every scene with him makes you uncomfortable because you get this real fear that he can do what he wants and no one can stop him. He feels a real danger to everyone and I love that. Anthony Starr is absolutely killing it.
I'm invested in where we go for the rest of the season, there are some excellent side plots on the go and it's doing well to balance them.
I'm invested in where we go for the rest of the season, there are some excellent side plots on the go and it's doing well to balance them.
I am loving it, but pushing Homelander to breaking point is a challenge for the writers. Once he tips over the edge there’s nothing to stop him doing what he once threatened to do, destroy Washington, New York, critical infrastructure, etc. You can only keep him ‘on the edge’ for so long.
Alan Moore once showed what an evil Superman could do to a city in his Miracleman story. I don’t think even The Boys is going to go that far.
Edit: For those who are not '80s superhero comic nerds, Miracleman was another Superman knock-off, reinvented by Alan Moore, prior to his seminal Watchmen.
Alan Moore once showed what an evil Superman could do to a city in his Miracleman story. I don’t think even The Boys is going to go that far.
Edit: For those who are not '80s superhero comic nerds, Miracleman was another Superman knock-off, reinvented by Alan Moore, prior to his seminal Watchmen.
Edited by SpudLink on Monday 24th June 11:21
C5_Steve said:
Caught up on 3 and 4 over the weekend. From 1-4 we've seen Homelander slowly come apart and become more and more psychotic and this, to me at least, feels like exactly the right tone we should have. We're now at the stage where Homelander is totally off the rails and literally every scene with him makes you uncomfortable because you get this real fear that he can do what he wants and no one can stop him. He feels a real danger to everyone and I love that. Anthony Starr is absolutely killing it.
I'm invested in where we go for the rest of the season, there are some excellent side plots on the go and it's doing well to balance them.
I agree. His visit to the lab in Episode 4 was very tense but breaking into three chunks across the episode didn't quick work for me. I'm invested in where we go for the rest of the season, there are some excellent side plots on the go and it's doing well to balance them.
Hughie's dad waking up having had V was a good cliffhanger. What does his mum really do for Vought? I think it was obvious from the start of that sub-plot there was going to be more to it.
C5_Steve said:
pidsy said:
The Critical Drinker has done a piece on the opening of this season and how unpopular it is with viewers.
I'd have cared more about his opinion if he'd actually watched it, which he hasn't. Just an echo chamber for Rotten Tomatoes unfortunately. Finally, his voice is massively affected and annoying, it's like he's doing a bad impersonation of someone doing a bad impersonation of Jeremy Clarkson.
(*) Hint : having a large audience is nice, but some people make things because they want to tell a particular story. Viewing figures is not an indicator of quality...
tangerine_sedge said:
I actually listened to/watched this review and found it incredibly disingenous. He's not watched the episodes and based his entire opinion on a bunch of Rotten Tomato reviews by the kind of braindead viewers who seemed to think that Homelander was the actual hero of the show. Combine that with a click-bait "how to destroy your audience" title, as if the only reason to make TV or films is to maximise your audience(*).
Finally, his voice is massively affected and annoying, it's like he's doing a bad impersonation of someone doing a bad impersonation of Jeremy Clarkson.
(*) Hint : having a large audience is nice, but some people make things because they want to tell a particular story. Viewing figures is not an indicator of quality...
Yeah those were pretty much all my thoughts. S4 launched to a higher viewing figure than S3 and Amazon's second biggest returning series of all time. So it's not even backed up with an ounce of substance, just a regurgitation of some nonsense from the very edges or extremity. It seems more and more popular for some to create content at the extremes to boost engagement rather than offering any sort of critical analysis based on either a) your own opinion or b) facts. Finally, his voice is massively affected and annoying, it's like he's doing a bad impersonation of someone doing a bad impersonation of Jeremy Clarkson.
(*) Hint : having a large audience is nice, but some people make things because they want to tell a particular story. Viewing figures is not an indicator of quality...
At least Clarkson always made it clear which of those two plinths he was shouting from.
C5_Steve said:
tangerine_sedge said:
I actually listened to/watched this review and found it incredibly disingenous. He's not watched the episodes and based his entire opinion on a bunch of Rotten Tomato reviews by the kind of braindead viewers who seemed to think that Homelander was the actual hero of the show. Combine that with a click-bait "how to destroy your audience" title, as if the only reason to make TV or films is to maximise your audience(*).
Finally, his voice is massively affected and annoying, it's like he's doing a bad impersonation of someone doing a bad impersonation of Jeremy Clarkson.
(*) Hint : having a large audience is nice, but some people make things because they want to tell a particular story. Viewing figures is not an indicator of quality...
Yeah those were pretty much all my thoughts. S4 launched to a higher viewing figure than S3 and Amazon's second biggest returning series of all time. So it's not even backed up with an ounce of substance, just a regurgitation of some nonsense from the very edges or extremity. It seems more and more popular for some to create content at the extremes to boost engagement rather than offering any sort of critical analysis based on either a) your own opinion or b) facts. Finally, his voice is massively affected and annoying, it's like he's doing a bad impersonation of someone doing a bad impersonation of Jeremy Clarkson.
(*) Hint : having a large audience is nice, but some people make things because they want to tell a particular story. Viewing figures is not an indicator of quality...
At least Clarkson always made it clear which of those two plinths he was shouting from.
Glad to hear this season of The Boys gets better - after 2 episodes I'm finding it a bit beige.
MesoForm said:
I was going to say pretty much the same (but deleted the post) - for every insightful and interesting video he makes like his recent Falling Down or Furiosa ones he makes two or three rants to appeal to the "everything is woke now" crowd.
Glad to hear this season of The Boys gets better - after 2 episodes I'm finding it a bit beige.
There seems to be a bit of a battle for hearts and minds in America between the left and right which has polarised people massively, somewhat ironic as The Boys actually features this as one of it's major plot points too. Art imitates life, imitates art.Glad to hear this season of The Boys gets better - after 2 episodes I'm finding it a bit beige.
Unfortunately it means that media content coming out of the US usually has a major bias in either direction now so you need to be very mindful of the political leanings of the reviewer when watching content. I used to enjoy most of Critical Drinkers output but lately, as with a lot of US youtubers, he's fast disappearing down the political rabbit hole which is starting to effect the quality of his critical thinking.
Guvernator said:
There seems to be a bit of a battle for hearts and minds in America between the left and right which has polarised people massively, somewhat ironic as The Boys actually features this as one of it's major plot points too. Art imitates life, imitates art.
Unfortunately it means that media content coming out of the US usually has a major bias in either direction now so you need to be very mindful of the political leanings of the reviewer when watching content. I used to enjoy most of Critical Drinkers output but lately, as with a lot of US youtubers, he's fast disappearing down the political rabbit hole which is starting to effect the quality of his critical thinking.
He's Scottish. He's still coming across as an arse with this stuff, but it's a Scottish arse.Unfortunately it means that media content coming out of the US usually has a major bias in either direction now so you need to be very mindful of the political leanings of the reviewer when watching content. I used to enjoy most of Critical Drinkers output but lately, as with a lot of US youtubers, he's fast disappearing down the political rabbit hole which is starting to effect the quality of his critical thinking.
ajprice said:
He's Scottish. He's still coming across as an arse with this stuff, but it's a Scottish arse.
I always see him on US youtube streams with the likes of Nerdrotic etc so just assumed he was a Scot living in the US. Weird that he seems to take such a big interest in US politics then.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff