Clarkson’s Farm

[BikeBikeBIke]

98elise said:

If the kaleb bit was totally scripted then they would have had a better camera angle.

In which case the set up was staged. There is no way there was a gag and a set up for a gag and neither was staged.

You could equally say why film Kaleb getting out of a cherry picker from a bad angle. And that assumes it was a bad angle. The shot was brilliant - my 8yo pissed himself laughing. Not sure how you'd improve on the "mayhem in the background" vibe from that shot.

98elise said:

How do you think they script some of the animals bits?

Explained in my post. (Which you quoted.)

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Tuesday 14th May 09:01

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BikeBikeBIke said:

Explained in my post. (Which you quoted.)

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Tuesday 14th May 09:01

They set the situation up and let it unfold naturally. My friend is a producer on a similar show. It's not faked from start to finish and these are not actors, they film thousands of hours and cut it down to a few hundred minutes.

No doubt they made sure the H&S was over the top but they wouldn't have staged the fall and definitely not the injury.

[Rebew]

BikeBikeBIke said:

98elise said:

If the kaleb bit was totally scripted then they would have had a better camera angle.

In which case the set up was staged. There is no way there was a gag and a set up for a gag and neither was staged.

You could equally say why film Kaleb getting out of a cherry picker from a bad angle. And that assumes it was a bad angle. The shot was brilliant - my 8yo pissed himself laughing. Not sure how you'd improve on the "mayhem in the background" vibe from that shot.

98elise said:

How do you think they script some of the animals bits?

Explained in my post. (Which you quoted.)

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Tuesday 14th May 09:01

But that isn't scripted, it's "manufactured" but no one has sat down and written a script saying "Jeremy will buy X pigs and have Y piglets and Z of those will die". Of course the producers don't choose the easiest livestock or the easiest crops as that would make boring telly. Doesn't mean it is scripted though, just that the chance of a dramatic outcome is enhanced.

[BikeBikeBIke]

Rebew said:

BikeBikeBIke said:

98elise said:

If the kaleb bit was totally scripted then they would have had a better camera angle.

In which case the set up was staged. There is no way there was a gag and a set up for a gag and neither was staged.

You could equally say why film Kaleb getting out of a cherry picker from a bad angle. And that assumes it was a bad angle. The shot was brilliant - my 8yo pissed himself laughing. Not sure how you'd improve on the "mayhem in the background" vibe from that shot.

98elise said:

How do you think they script some of the animals bits?

Explained in my post. (Which you quoted.)

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Tuesday 14th May 09:01

But that isn't scripted, it's "manufactured" but no one has sat down and written a script saying "Jeremy will buy X pigs and have Y piglets and Z of those will die". Of course the producers don't choose the easiest livestock or the easiest crops as that would make boring telly. Doesn't mean it is scripted though, just that the chance of a dramatic outcome is enhanced.

I didn't say scripted someone else did. (Although I'm pretty sure that when they talk to camera they have a very good idea what they're going to say and if they had a sneezing fit they do it again!)

...and yeah, "manufactured" is a good word for it. Its pretty clear what's going on.

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Tuesday 14th May 09:57

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p1stonhead said:

biggbn said:

daqinggregg said:

I doubt Cheerful Charlie comes cheap, with all that expertise (rightfully so). I guess a good land agent is contracted to several farms.

Two hats Charlie was hilarious in the piece with renting the goats. Really funny.

He’s definitely a natural at TV stuff isn’t he.

His look and demeanor reminds me a lot of Adrian Newey.

Seeing the straight man do something funny made it even funnier IMO.

[FiF]

Reckon the situation varies from show to show, there are some where pretty much the majority of the thing is 'manufactured.'

Some like, I would argue, Clarkson's farm where there is a lot of footage just taken as things happen be the situation one which is just letting things happen naturally or there is a ' creation setup' and things just left to go from there and see what happens with a few really manufactured pieces to signpost or close out a narrative arc eg picnic.

Then there are the shows like Mortimer and Whitehouse Gone Fishing where apparently they just let the cameras run and run and run.

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FiF said:

Reckon the situation varies from show to show, there are some where pretty much the majority of the thing is 'manufactured.'

Some like, I would argue, Clarkson's farm where there is a lot of footage just taken as things happen be the situation one which is just letting things happen naturally or there is a ' creation setup' and things just left to go from there and see what happens with a few really manufactured pieces to signpost or close out a narrative arc eg picnic.

Then there are the shows like Mortimer and Whitehouse Gone Fishing where apparently they just let the cameras run and run and run.

Yeah, exactly that IMO.

[suffolk009]

confused_buyer said:

unrepentant said:

I reckon it was staged. The door to No 10 opens as you approach, they know you are coming, are ready and you don't have to knock at all.

Yes it seemed very odd. If you go into No. 10 from the front door you do through the gate at the end of Downing Street. You then have to go through an airport style security portakabin style thing to the left and then out into the (Downing) street. You are obviously watched the whole time and they know when you walk up to the door.

My dad took me to London when I was a kid (would have been mid to late 70s, probably pre-Thatcher, certainly pre Thatchergate). We walked up straight up Downing Street.

[98elise]

suffolk009 said:

confused_buyer said:

unrepentant said:

I reckon it was staged. The door to No 10 opens as you approach, they know you are coming, are ready and you don't have to knock at all.

Yes it seemed very odd. If you go into No. 10 from the front door you do through the gate at the end of Downing Street. You then have to go through an airport style security portakabin style thing to the left and then out into the (Downing) street. You are obviously watched the whole time and they know when you walk up to the door.

My dad took me to London when I was a kid (would have been mid to late 70s, probably pre-Thatcher, certainly pre Thatchergate). We walked up straight up Downing Street.

It certainly used to be the case. I remember walking along Dowing Street with no restrictions.

[suffolk009]

98elise said:

suffolk009 said:

confused_buyer said:

unrepentant said:

I reckon it was staged. The door to No 10 opens as you approach, they know you are coming, are ready and you don't have to knock at all.

Yes it seemed very odd. If you go into No. 10 from the front door you do through the gate at the end of Downing Street. You then have to go through an airport style security portakabin style thing to the left and then out into the (Downing) street. You are obviously watched the whole time and they know when you walk up to the door.

My dad took me to London when I was a kid (would have been mid to late 70s, probably pre-Thatcher, certainly pre Thatchergate). We walked up straight up Downing Street.

It certainly used to be the case. I remember walking along Dowing Street with no restrictions.

A bit o/t but apparently after the 1991 bombing they replaced no10's old oak front door with a steel blast proof one. It takes 8 men to lift it.

[Fermit]

suffolk009 said:

A bit o/t but apparently after the 1991 bombing they replaced no10's old oak front door with a steel blast proof one. It takes 8 men to lift it.

Christ! The thought of any old random, walking unchallenged up Downing Street is unfathomable.

[Smollet]

suffolk009 said:

A bit o/t but apparently after the 1991 bombing they replaced no10's old oak front door with a steel blast proof one. It takes 8 men to lift it.

And one rustic chap to knock on it in an inappropriate fashion

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Fermit said:

suffolk009 said:

A bit o/t but apparently after the 1991 bombing they replaced no10's old oak front door with a steel blast proof one. It takes 8 men to lift it.

Christ! The thought of any old random, walking unchallenged up Downing Street is unfathomable.

When is Biden visiting?

[ChocolateFrog]

Just watched the bit with the Downing Street Doorman.

Is it the first line of the job description that you have to be a to work there?

Totally unnecessary. He could have made a joke about it if it bothered him that much to mention it.

Bouncers are all the same.

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Did seem to be a total .

They had to go back and knock again:

https://youtu.be/Wep7j5Bf8D4?t=60

[Pistom]

Just watched the final episode. Very good.

[Rockape]

Likewise just finished this season. Really good TV. Good to see Gerald up on his feet.

[biggbn]

ChocolateFrog said:

Just watched the bit with the Downing Street Doorman.

Is it the first line of the job description that you have to be a to work there?

Totally unnecessary. He could have made a joke about it if it bothered him that much to mention it.

Bouncers are all the same.

Spent thirty three years working doors, and they're not, they're really not.

[Still Mulling]

ChocolateFrog said:

Just watched the bit with the Downing Street Doorman.

Is it the first line of the job description that you have to be a to work there?

Totally unnecessary. He could have made a joke about it if it bothered him that much to mention it.

Bouncers are all the same.

I hope the guy got fired. Utter cocksplat. Greeting guests with that attitude? First impressions rule the mind!

Off-topic: And bouncers are not all the same. I've met some truly nice men and women who work in that industry, and they've also been nice when working. Makes a real difference to the feel of an establishment, and also the behaviours of their guests.

Back on-topic: very enjoyable telly, and educational. My wife joined me in watching this season and also enjoyed it. I was very sad during the first piggies' births. Glad to see Gerald recover, and it was a nice way to end the season the way that they did.

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Still Mulling said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Just watched the bit with the Downing Street Doorman.

Is it the first line of the job description that you have to be a to work there?

Totally unnecessary. He could have made a joke about it if it bothered him that much to mention it.

Bouncers are all the same.

I hope the guy got fired. Utter cocksplat. Greeting guests with that attitude? First impressions rule the mind!

Off-topic: And bouncers are not all the same. I've met some truly nice men and women who work in that industry, and they've also been nice when working. Makes a real difference to the feel of an establishment, and also the behaviours of their guests.

Back on-topic: very enjoyable telly, and educational. My wife joined me in watching this season and also enjoyed it. I was very sad during the first piggies' births. Glad to see Gerald recover, and it was a nice way to end the season the way that they did.

If it was real (some people seem to think it was setup but I can’t see it) I’d have been inclined to say ‘go fk yourself im here as a guest of the PM are you going to kick us out and tell the PM why his meeting was cancelled?’