Jonny Smith's Late Brake Show...
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geeman237 said:
Today's episode, the look on Jonny's face at 24.00 mins in....priceless.
https://youtu.be/Y01m9Q9ToCQ
Watching that later. Car looks absolutely gorgeous.https://youtu.be/Y01m9Q9ToCQ
This is a really good watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW8IjBWsH90
I want one. Never going to happen but I do, it looks great to me.
Based on how well they go down on some other channels I follow, I would say it’s a risky move.
Bringing in bikes videos that a majority of your audience do not engage with can really hammer your algorithm negatively on the YouTube platform.
He would be better off (business wise) to start a separate bike channel really.
We’ll see.
Bringing in bikes videos that a majority of your audience do not engage with can really hammer your algorithm negatively on the YouTube platform.
He would be better off (business wise) to start a separate bike channel really.
We’ll see.
Mezzanine said:
Based on how well they go down on some other channels I follow, I would say it’s a risky move.
Bringing in bikes videos that a majority of your audience do not engage with can really hammer your algorithm negatively on the YouTube platform.
He would be better off (business wise) to start a separate bike channel really.
We’ll see.
This, Harry Metcalfe did a load of videos of his dakar bikes and even he admits the videos didn't do well. Its not something I'm particularly interested in so probably won't watch.Bringing in bikes videos that a majority of your audience do not engage with can really hammer your algorithm negatively on the YouTube platform.
He would be better off (business wise) to start a separate bike channel really.
We’ll see.
I've also noticed that the LBS Patreon is now tiered, with personalised videos and other nonsense for the higher tiers, which I think is a shame. I think the Smith and Sniff model is better where its a flat fee for all content, so it feels you are helping them keep the lights on rather than as a profiteering exercise.
Mezzanine said:
Based on how well they go down on some other channels I follow, I would say it’s a risky move.
Bringing in bikes videos that a majority of your audience do not engage with can really hammer your algorithm negatively on the YouTube platform.
He would be better off (business wise) to start a separate bike channel really.
We’ll see.
That was my thinking, I did think it would be better to start a separate channel.Bringing in bikes videos that a majority of your audience do not engage with can really hammer your algorithm negatively on the YouTube platform.
He would be better off (business wise) to start a separate bike channel really.
We’ll see.
SteBrown91 said:
Mezzanine said:
Based on how well they go down on some other channels I follow, I would say it’s a risky move.
Bringing in bikes videos that a majority of your audience do not engage with can really hammer your algorithm negatively on the YouTube platform.
He would be better off (business wise) to start a separate bike channel really.
We’ll see.
This, Harry Metcalfe did a load of videos of his dakar bikes and even he admits the videos didn't do well. Its not something I'm particularly interested in so probably won't watch.Bringing in bikes videos that a majority of your audience do not engage with can really hammer your algorithm negatively on the YouTube platform.
He would be better off (business wise) to start a separate bike channel really.
We’ll see.
I've also noticed that the LBS Patreon is now tiered, with personalised videos and other nonsense for the higher tiers, which I think is a shame. I think the Smith and Sniff model is better where its a flat fee for all content, so it feels you are helping them keep the lights on rather than as a profiteering exercise.
Full disclosure: I'm not on the LBS Patreon but I'm on the S&S Patreon as I really look forward to it every week and they needed to make something from it to justify the time spent recording and editing every week.
Jonny is obviously aware of the potential issues as he makes reference to it in the introductory video. He is moving to two videos a week now so I guess content needs to come from somewhere.
Matt Farah has spoken about how badly effected their algorithm became by putting the Smoking Tire podcast streams and bike videos on their main channel - it skewed their figures so much that even people who were subscribed to the channel and had all notifications turned on were still not seeing the new car videos in their timelines and so not only were people not engaging with the ‘different’ stuff, they were not even seeing the main product either.
Generally ‘the internet’ hates anything that moves out of its very narrow classification niches.
Matt Farah has spoken about how badly effected their algorithm became by putting the Smoking Tire podcast streams and bike videos on their main channel - it skewed their figures so much that even people who were subscribed to the channel and had all notifications turned on were still not seeing the new car videos in their timelines and so not only were people not engaging with the ‘different’ stuff, they were not even seeing the main product either.
Generally ‘the internet’ hates anything that moves out of its very narrow classification niches.
Mallard126 said:
To be fair to Jonny, he needs to make the LBS channel pay. He's stepped away from TV work and it's now his main source of income so it has to be a bit more commercial than S&S.
Full disclosure: I'm not on the LBS Patreon but I'm on the S&S Patreon as I really look forward to it every week and they needed to make something from it to justify the time spent recording and editing every week.
I am the same, on S&S Patreon (I barely look at it and still listen on Spotify as can listen in the car) but for a quid a month its a bargain for 4x podcasts a month.Full disclosure: I'm not on the LBS Patreon but I'm on the S&S Patreon as I really look forward to it every week and they needed to make something from it to justify the time spent recording and editing every week.
I understand they need to make money from it but I just feel the personalised videos and special patreon stickers are a bit eurgh.
SteBrown91 said:
This, Harry Metcalfe did a load of videos of his dakar bikes and even he admits the videos didn't do well. Its not something I'm particularly interested in so probably won't watch.
I've also noticed that the LBS Patreon is now tiered, with personalised videos and other nonsense for the higher tiers, which I think is a shame. I think the Smith and Sniff model is better where its a flat fee for all content, so it feels you are helping them keep the lights on rather than as a profiteering exercise.
Tiered Patreon is what a lot of other creators use to monetise their channels and I personally don’t have a problem with giving people the choice to pay more if they want to. I've also noticed that the LBS Patreon is now tiered, with personalised videos and other nonsense for the higher tiers, which I think is a shame. I think the Smith and Sniff model is better where its a flat fee for all content, so it feels you are helping them keep the lights on rather than as a profiteering exercise.
You can still watch the videos for free without being a Patreon member so no one is losing out.
LBS is Jonny’s main income now, and the videos take a hell of a lot more time, money and production over the podcast. I can also confidently say that it will hardly be some sort of major cash cow - I’d imagine he will be doing well to break even at times.
Mallard126 said:
I chuck a fiver a month into S&S. I could probably drop that to a quid and join LBS but it gives me satisfaction to think S&S are both benefitting equally from my subscription.
Me too.For YouTube channels I like to support, I have come around to letting adverts around the videos play in full as a means to support them as I believe they get more advert revenue if you don’t skip the ads.
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