Automotive Vloggers (Vol. 5)
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Downward said:
AlexNJ89 said:
Can't believe that the AutoAlex Ferrari is worth so much in parts.
How much is it worth in parts?Steering wheel £800
Gate £1k
Great second episode - good move to get Scott involved too.
ETA - I've messed up the formatting! Sorry
Yeah awesome video from Joe that, I find that stuff weirdly fascinating too. We’ll miss diesels for that kind of work.
I have a 2.0 TFSI just the 35 nothing fruity. And it has to be coaxed to 40+ MPG on a long motorway commute, it’s really quite s
te, and I have absolutely no idea what the mild hybrid in it does.
I have a 2.0 TFSI just the 35 nothing fruity. And it has to be coaxed to 40+ MPG on a long motorway commute, it’s really quite s
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Terry Winks said:
....We’ll miss diesels for that kind of work....
Indeed. It would be interesting to see a 'race' between a long range diesel and an electric car with a decent (250-300 mile) battery and see how much time you would save driving from southern Spain to Calais (both driving at 80mph-ish - and having an overnight stop in SW France as they did on the Passat trip).thegreenhell said:
You can add another one to this list now. He's just crashed the Bilstein M4 GT4 into the back of an Aston Martin in the NLS race, putting both cars out of the race. The incident happened when he failed to react to a yellow flag and the cars ahead of him slowed down quicker than he did. He's currently under investigation by the stewards for not respecting a yellow flag zone.
The result of the stewards' investigation is a one race ban for Misha. Apparently he was already on a time penalty for excessive speed (95 in a code 60) on the previous lap.Truckosaurus said:
Terry Winks said:
....We’ll miss diesels for that kind of work....
Indeed. It would be interesting to see a 'race' between a long range diesel and an electric car with a decent (250-300 mile) battery and see how much time you would save driving from southern Spain to Calais (both driving at 80mph-ish - and having an overnight stop in SW France as they did on the Passat trip).The diesel would certainly get there quicker but I doubt by much,
You’d plan on recharging every 250 miles in the EV which would take around 20-25 minutes I’d guess. You’d need 5 recharges (starting full and finishing empty) but one of those would be an overnight one so probably around 100 minutes in charging time vs at least 2 petrol stops at that speed so maybe 15 minutes.
But that’s all assuming you never stopped to eat, pee etc. if you times those right the EV charging time would be quite a bit less.
Anyway maybe an hour and an half extra for the EV for that length of journey, that’s hardly worth worrying about I’d have thought?
740EVTORQUES said:
Truckosaurus said:
Terry Winks said:
....We’ll miss diesels for that kind of work....
Indeed. It would be interesting to see a 'race' between a long range diesel and an electric car with a decent (250-300 mile) battery and see how much time you would save driving from southern Spain to Calais (both driving at 80mph-ish - and having an overnight stop in SW France as they did on the Passat trip).The diesel would certainly get there quicker but I doubt by much,
You’d plan on recharging every 250 miles in the EV which would take around 20-25 minutes I’d guess. You’d need 5 recharges (starting full and finishing empty) but one of those would be an overnight one so probably around 100 minutes in charging time vs at least 2 petrol stops at that speed so maybe 15 minutes.
But that’s all assuming you never stopped to eat, pee etc. if you times those right the EV charging time would be quite a bit less.
Anyway maybe an hour and an half extra for the EV for that length of journey, that’s hardly worth worrying about I’d have thought?
If it only ended up an hour or so difference that’s a good thing for EVs surely?
I think it would be interesting to compare both cars at “normal speeds” (neither on an economy run). I’d be interested to see how efficient an EV would be at decent but very smooth steady speeds. (I already know what my GTD is like doing that)
A channel that pops up in my suggested list a few times has done a few ICE vs EV trips. Latest one being UK to Benidorm.
https://www.youtube.com/@GeoffBuysCars
https://www.youtube.com/@GeoffBuysCars
WarrenB said:
A channel that pops up in my suggested list a few times has done a few ICE vs EV trips. Latest one being UK to Benidorm.
https://www.youtube.com/@GeoffBuysCars
Geoff can be entertaining, but suffers from videoing everything and uploading it, and either himself being - or trying to appeal to - a conspiracy theory nut. The regular references to the clouds in the sky looking odd are a pointer. https://www.youtube.com/@GeoffBuysCars
SteBrown91 said:
740EVTORQUES said:
Truckosaurus said:
Terry Winks said:
....We’ll miss diesels for that kind of work....
Indeed. It would be interesting to see a 'race' between a long range diesel and an electric car with a decent (250-300 mile) battery and see how much time you would save driving from southern Spain to Calais (both driving at 80mph-ish - and having an overnight stop in SW France as they did on the Passat trip).The diesel would certainly get there quicker but I doubt by much,
You’d plan on recharging every 250 miles in the EV which would take around 20-25 minutes I’d guess. You’d need 5 recharges (starting full and finishing empty) but one of those would be an overnight one so probably around 100 minutes in charging time vs at least 2 petrol stops at that speed so maybe 15 minutes.
But that’s all assuming you never stopped to eat, pee etc. if you times those right the EV charging time would be quite a bit less.
Anyway maybe an hour and an half extra for the EV for that length of journey, that’s hardly worth worrying about I’d have thought?
If it only ended up an hour or so difference that’s a good thing for EVs surely?
I think it would be interesting to compare both cars at “normal speeds” (neither on an economy run). I’d be interested to see how efficient an EV would be at decent but very smooth steady speeds. (I already know what my GTD is like doing that)
Two fuel stops in an ICE car will be 10 mins each, so 20 mins ICE Vs 4 hours EV is a big difference
honda_exige said:
Never have I been more confused to receive an Instagram message.
Sent me that then blocked me![confused](/inc/images/confused.gif)
I don't think I've ever even commented about him here or commented on his IG page or YT channel.
Truly bizarre.
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I can’t even see you’ve said anything about it?? Unless you’ve deleted the post?Sent me that then blocked me
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I don't think I've ever even commented about him here or commented on his IG page or YT channel.
Truly bizarre.
audi321 said:
honda_exige said:
I can’t even see you’ve said anything about it?? Unless you’ve deleted the post?I even googled my name and his name with Pistonheads and only found a comment from 3 months ago where I said he was one of the better drivers out of the UK YT'ers.
Literally don't think I've made any other comments about him. He's even got me thinking I sleepwalk, open up my laptop to make mean comments about Joe Achilles for no discernable reason then go back to bed to wake up none the wiser the next day
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thegreenhell said:
thegreenhell said:
You can add another one to this list now. He's just crashed the Bilstein M4 GT4 into the back of an Aston Martin in the NLS race, putting both cars out of the race. The incident happened when he failed to react to a yellow flag and the cars ahead of him slowed down quicker than he did. He's currently under investigation by the stewards for not respecting a yellow flag zone.
The result of the stewards' investigation is a one race ban for Misha. Apparently he was already on a time penalty for excessive speed (95 in a code 60) on the previous lap.PinkHouse said:
The average EV doesn't gain 250 miles in 20 - 25 mins. More like 1-1.5 hours if we're being generous, especially taking onto account queuing and variable charging speeds. So you're looking at a minimum of 3 -4.5 hours just charging in best case.
Two fuel stops in an ICE car will be 10 mins each, so 20 mins ICE Vs 4 hours EV is a big difference
250 miles in 1.5 hours is 40 kW charging. That’s not what people do at DC chargers, they start at 80kW and most are 120-150.Two fuel stops in an ICE car will be 10 mins each, so 20 mins ICE Vs 4 hours EV is a big difference
150kW charging would take 24 minutes as I said.
I know, I’ve done it plenty of times. What’s your experience of DC charging been?
740EVTORQUES said:
PinkHouse said:
The average EV doesn't gain 250 miles in 20 - 25 mins. More like 1-1.5 hours if we're being generous, especially taking onto account queuing and variable charging speeds. So you're looking at a minimum of 3 -4.5 hours just charging in best case.
Two fuel stops in an ICE car will be 10 mins each, so 20 mins ICE Vs 4 hours EV is a big difference
250 miles in 1.5 hours is 40 kW charging. That’s not what people do at DC chargers, they start at 80kW and most are 120-150.Two fuel stops in an ICE car will be 10 mins each, so 20 mins ICE Vs 4 hours EV is a big difference
150kW charging would take 24 minutes as I said.
I know, I’ve done it plenty of times. What’s your experience of DC charging been?
Also by virtue of tech and battery chemistry, it's also impossible for any battery to charge at it's max charge rate from 0-100%, which is why most rapid charge peak speeds are quoted from 10-80% and the final 20% can often take just as long as the charging rate significantly slows.
Also your claim that most DC chargers are 120-150kW is laughable, here's some UK DFT data that shows that ultra rapid chargers (100kW +) are by far the smallest proportion of public chargers available in this country.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/electric-...
Banking on adding 250 miles in 20 mins at every single charge stop on a long trip is pie in the sky thinking
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