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dealmaker said:
All this talk of building cost and the purported £2k M2 build price.
What's the current going rate (assuming it's dropped somewhat) - for say a semi surburban area in the North of the UK for all in build costs?
Say starting a new build from a location already with services - and you want to build a 10,000 sq ft Gin palace using conventional Brick & Block (or rendered block) construction with some nice detaiing and a decent quality indoor finish??
£100 per sq ft?
As a very basic rule of thumb yes but for any build it depends on whats in the ground and what level of finish you want on top of available existing services. What's the current going rate (assuming it's dropped somewhat) - for say a semi surburban area in the North of the UK for all in build costs?
Say starting a new build from a location already with services - and you want to build a 10,000 sq ft Gin palace using conventional Brick & Block (or rendered block) construction with some nice detaiing and a decent quality indoor finish??
£100 per sq ft?
I.e if you base the concept on last night and relate it to a new build of £1000/m2 for 450m2 then your obviously looking at a spend of £450K.
If you then find you need £60k of piling on top of a normal strip foundation then the rate /m2 goes up to £1133/m2.
Throw in that fancy walkway in lieu of a more traditional staircase at an extra over of say £50K (probably a conservative figure) then the rate goes upto £1,244/m2.
And in the case of last nights episode the list goes on an on and on so its quite easy to see why Kevin McCloud and others on here alluded to the £2k /m2 cost on top of the purchase price.
As for the programme itself i thought it was a good demonstration of quality workmanship but a poor use of available space for a 4500 sqft house. (Thats approx the same floor area as three modern build 3 to 4 bed detached houses FFS!!)
scotal said:
sleep envy said:
scotal said:
Straw bales and sheeps wool fella.... its the future!
there is a straw bale house...clients take massive interest in it these days as they way the tech is going it's becoming cheaper to use these technologies and it costs less to run the buildings
Lots of flexibility with shaping walls, but all cables have to be fireroof, and the bales have to be treated to stop them becoming rodent infested iirc?
I want to try and do a mortgage on one..... "Is the property of brick and tile construction?" errr wellll not exactly.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7855847.stm
shirt said:
scotal said:
sleep envy said:
scotal said:
Straw bales and sheeps wool fella.... its the future!
there is a straw bale house...clients take massive interest in it these days as they way the tech is going it's becoming cheaper to use these technologies and it costs less to run the buildings
Lots of flexibility with shaping walls, but all cables have to be fireroof, and the bales have to be treated to stop them becoming rodent infested iirc?
I want to try and do a mortgage on one..... "Is the property of brick and tile construction?" errr wellll not exactly.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7855847.stm
Fireproof construction became popular in the 19th century for very good reasons. Just a measure of caution.
I find GD a bit disappointing because the costs are often fudged and skirted over. So often the couple is 'on their last penny' and 'living on their credit cards', but it is obvious they are still spending like there's no tomorrow. 5% overspend on a budget of 450k for that, and the civil works months behind schedule? Improbable I would say. The castle in the north of England was another similar case.
I find GD a bit disappointing because the costs are often fudged and skirted over. So often the couple is 'on their last penny' and 'living on their credit cards', but it is obvious they are still spending like there's no tomorrow. 5% overspend on a budget of 450k for that, and the civil works months behind schedule? Improbable I would say. The castle in the north of England was another similar case.
Edited by cardigankid on Thursday 29th January 14:12
Loved the show last night, that couple were as mad as a box of badgers but good on them for doing it. People these days seem to think of houses as investments and only think what they can get back out of them rather than just a place to live. They obviously had an idea of what they wanted and just did it, good on them.
I noticed the other building as well last night so thanks for PH for that bit of insight on the flats, I guess that's who they paid for the house!
I noticed the other building as well last night so thanks for PH for that bit of insight on the flats, I guess that's who they paid for the house!
Gutted, switched on last night expecting to see a mates son's place just down the road from us, to hear the announcement "tonights programme is not the one advertised" 
How can I find out the order of episodes? The property is Kemys(sp?) Folly, in Penhow, S. Wales.
eta before anyone suggest Google, tried the GD site and there is no listing for future episodes.
How can I find out the order of episodes? The property is Kemys(sp?) Folly, in Penhow, S. Wales.
eta before anyone suggest Google, tried the GD site and there is no listing for future episodes.
Edited by Mr MoJo on Thursday 29th January 14:19
cardigankid said:
I find GD a bit disappointing because the costs are often fudged and skirted over. So often the couple is 'on their last penny' and 'living on their credit cards', but it is obvious they are still spending like there's no tomorrow. 5% overspend on a budget of 450k for that, and the civil works months behind schedule? Improbable I would say. The castle in the north of England was another similar case.
in the early series', they would always show the estimated budget and then come back and compare that to the final costs. as things have progressed and the cost of the builds have seemingly increased they have abandoned this. i can see the logic, as most people who are featured seem down to earth and might not want to brag or show how much cash they have.Edited by cardigankid on Thursday 29th January 14:12
re: the castle, the family have opened it as a b&b to cover the additional mortgage. stunning place imo [though haven't been].
http://www.peelcastle.co.uk/index_flash.html
I prefer to know a bit more about the finances to see what you can get for your money etc.. especially when they start putting up some groovy technology etc..
Especially the fellow who was a mad inventor fellow who had the sliding glass roof which he invented and the bath under the bed, I think he must have done the work uber-cheap.
Especially the fellow who was a mad inventor fellow who had the sliding glass roof which he invented and the bath under the bed, I think he must have done the work uber-cheap.
that one's my favourite, the 15 1/2 house. just found their site and ordering the dvd of the build process. i have always wanted a houseboat and i want to nick, sorry gain inspiration from!, a lot of what they have done.
the skylight he designed himself and now does them commercially. the sink draw and bath-under-the-bed were apparently created by the joiner. really neat stuff.
the skylight he designed himself and now does them commercially. the sink draw and bath-under-the-bed were apparently created by the joiner. really neat stuff.
shirt said:
that one's my favourite, the 15 1/2 house. just found their site and ordering the dvd of the build process. i have always wanted a houseboat and i want to nick, sorry gain inspiration from!, a lot of what they have done.
the skylight he designed himself and now does them commercially. the sink draw and bath-under-the-bed were apparently created by the joiner. really neat stuff.
Linky to their site please.the skylight he designed himself and now does them commercially. the sink draw and bath-under-the-bed were apparently created by the joiner. really neat stuff.
Nolar Dog said:
I can just see the new warning signs on site entrances:
"Hi-Viz jackets must be worn on site at all times unless someone from PH has declared it safe"
If only it were that easy..I spent ten years of my 'career' on building sites and never saw an injury that would have been prevented if the victim was wearing a different coloured jacket."Hi-Viz jackets must be worn on site at all times unless someone from PH has declared it safe"
I will admit that if there is crane operating on site, Hi-viz is good so the crane operator can see everyone :P
Edited by Hedders on Thursday 29th January 17:07
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