House of the Dragon - SPOILERS inside.
Discussion
youngsyr said:
I didn't follow that bit?
How does Alicent interpret the dong of ice and fire as applying to her?
And what was the deal with the hooded woman going to visit Daemon's ex-Mistress? A very short scene, but presumably important?
He was talking about Aegon the firsts dream about the prince that was promised, and how he thought “she” (ie his daughter) would be the one to bring the realm together.How does Alicent interpret the dong of ice and fire as applying to her?
And what was the deal with the hooded woman going to visit Daemon's ex-Mistress? A very short scene, but presumably important?
However the queen interprets this as Aegon her son is the prince who was promised and how she (the queen) was chosen to bring the realm together.
Adam. said:
JamieBeeston said:
Disagree,
Daemon already mentioned earlier to Laenor that across the narrow sea, there were places where it didn't matter about your tastes, or your name, only how much [i]Gold[/] you had, there you could live a life of freedom.
Ditto the insistence that there be a witness to the fight and the body being so badly burned its unrecognisable.
That's obviously foreshadowing the mock execution and escape with his lover.
YepDaemon already mentioned earlier to Laenor that across the narrow sea, there were places where it didn't matter about your tastes, or your name, only how much [i]Gold[/] you had, there you could live a life of freedom.
Ditto the insistence that there be a witness to the fight and the body being so badly burned its unrecognisable.
That's obviously foreshadowing the mock execution and escape with his lover.
Rhaynaera had genuine affection for her gay Prince and didn;t want to kill him, Daemon comes up wiht this elegant solution, but Rhaynaera can't tell anyone, even his mother
ETA: Jamie; my recollection is he said that to the lover, not Laenor no? In any case, you are right and they faked it.
Edited by WhisperingWasp on Tuesday 11th October 22:46
marksx said:
The biggest irk with me was th time jumps. I spent a bit of time each episode trying to figure out who is who, despite some others not aging.
Must admit I do find myself wondering who is who!The bit that gets me is the eye-patch prince looks a great continuation of the eldest son from the previous episode (slim, pointy features if you know what I mean). But it was the younger son that lost his eye. And ironically the lad who I guess is the older son (and looks very familiar, not sure what I've seen him in) could be a decent older version of the younger son. It seems the younger son is now a foot taller and ten years older than his older brother!
WhisperingWasp said:
Indeed you were correct. I didn't think Laenor would have wanted to do that to his parents having just lost their daughter/his sister. Will be interesting to see how that develops.
ETA: Jamie; my recollection is he said that to the lover, not Laenor no? In any case, you are right and they faked it.
You may well be correct, It would make more sense for the Lover to be engaged to convince Laenor of the plan.ETA: Jamie; my recollection is he said that to the lover, not Laenor no? In any case, you are right and they faked it.
Edited by WhisperingWasp on Tuesday 11th October 22:46
Either way, very impressed that Rhaenyra didn't spill her guts to The Queen who never was, even when threatened.
Adam. said:
JamieBeeston said:
Either way, very impressed that Rhaenyra didn't spill her guts to The Queen who never was, even when threatened.
Indeed although that would undermine her marriage to Daemon and gay Prince might have had a claim to Driftmark throne ?Neither are fatal to her cause.
Golfgtimk28v said:
When you think about it, and not sure if it is a in joke, but The Prince/cess That Was Promised, ends up just being a story and doesn't mean much, which makes it so interesting how it becomes a trigger for key events.
I think it turns out to be true as it references John Snow (Aegon Targaryen) who unifies all against the Night King.vxr8mate said:
Golfgtimk28v said:
When you think about it, and not sure if it is a in joke, but The Prince/cess That Was Promised, ends up just being a story and doesn't mean much, which makes it so interesting how it becomes a trigger for key events.
I think it turns out to be true as it references John Snow (Aegon Targaryen) who unifies all against the Night King.Snow was treated as a b*stard, was exiled and then literally killed by politicking rulers!
vxr8mate said:
I think it turns out to be true as it references John Snow (Aegon Targaryen) who unifies all against the Night King.
But Aura killed him and she was nothing like the prophecy. In this world not everything becomes real or true. Mcguffin is probably best way as these actions carry the story.vxr8mate said:
Golfgtimk28v said:
When you think about it, and not sure if it is a in joke, but The Prince/cess That Was Promised, ends up just being a story and doesn't mean much, which makes it so interesting how it becomes a trigger for key events.
I think it turns out to be true as it references John Snow (Aegon Targaryen) who unifies all against the Night King.BobToc said:
vxr8mate said:
Golfgtimk28v said:
When you think about it, and not sure if it is a in joke, but The Prince/cess That Was Promised, ends up just being a story and doesn't mean much, which makes it so interesting how it becomes a trigger for key events.
I think it turns out to be true as it references John Snow (Aegon Targaryen) who unifies all against the Night King.He's essentially relied on making it up as he goes along, only he's written himself into a maze he can't find his way out of.
He's been "writing" the penultimate, yes penultimate book for 10 years now, including during a prolonged lockdown, and it's still nowhere near finished.
Just caught up. I've got to say, despite a slow start this series is starting to really become something special. Paddy Considine has been utterly fantastic in my books. I love how in certain scenes there is so much going on, people's expressions, subtle glances, smiles. It doesn't constantly hold your hand (which can be confusing at times)
RoP may have the budget, but I'd rather watch an intimate family squabble on HotD over it any day of the week. Who knew clever writing, decent casting and good old fashioned acting prowess would transcend pretty flowers and vast CGI landscapes? The two don't even compare now for me - I'll stick with RoP, but it's excruciating at times.
RoP may have the budget, but I'd rather watch an intimate family squabble on HotD over it any day of the week. Who knew clever writing, decent casting and good old fashioned acting prowess would transcend pretty flowers and vast CGI landscapes? The two don't even compare now for me - I'll stick with RoP, but it's excruciating at times.
youngsyr said:
He doesn't have anything "planned for the books".
He's essentially relied on making it up as he goes along, only he's written himself into a maze he can't find his way out of.
He's been "writing" the penultimate, yes penultimate book for 10 years now, including during a prolonged lockdown, and it's still nowhere near finished.
I think Martin isn't planning to finish the books at all, just waiting to kick the bucket and enigmatically leave his "unfinished symphonies" behind.He's essentially relied on making it up as he goes along, only he's written himself into a maze he can't find his way out of.
He's been "writing" the penultimate, yes penultimate book for 10 years now, including during a prolonged lockdown, and it's still nowhere near finished.
Bannock said:
I think Martin isn't planning to finish the books at all, just waiting to kick the bucket and enigmatically leave his "unfinished symphonies" behind.
In one respect he he letting the story grow on its own, organically. I think books van actually stunt the TV drama so better to be inspired by.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff