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Crumbs, tough crowd this morning, so much negativity!! Loved that video. Open top Porsche that sounds absolutely epic. Spring rates reduced so it flows down the road (I have driven that road and it certainly has some nasty compressions to catch you out) and Harry beaming with the enjoyment of it all. Maybe some of the trim pieces are a little "marmite" but if you are a petrol head how can you not love how that car sounds and goes?! I remember Harry's less than effusive reviews of the hard suspension and bouncy ride on the Cayman 4.0 GTS and the first 992 GT3 car he sampled, so the changes made to the Boxster clearly have worked. Great stuff. Enjoy listening to these 9000 RPM redlined flat sixes whilst you still can!
Jobbo said:
These days? The Boxster roof has been a simple and quick button press for about 27 years. I think the theatre of taking the top off the Spyder would lose its appeal pretty quickly for anyone who has actually used a normal Boxster roof.
Don't forget that the Boxster has to pander to a much wider market that includes people who daily them and people who don't have a garage etc. On top of that there is also the hugely important market of users who identify as glamour models or elderly. This particular edition can be much more niche. For example, it can cater for people who have a garage, have other cars for when it's not dry and don't have manicured nails or multiple age related health issues.
The standard Boxster is the practical, reliable, every day car one's mother can use for shopping and just leave out on the driveway like a Z4, SLK, TT. Just a well made, nice, practical car that can be used easily by everyone from kids to grannies.
It's not meant to be daily driver practical. Anyone who's come from an Elise or Caterham or tenting will be familiar with faffing around with bits of canvas. Harry has a Project 7 and used to have a 550 Barchetta, so he's used to such things.
It still looked quite stiff and bouncy on camera, even with the softer springs, despite what Harry said, and it's a shame it's auto only. It looks like a dogs dinner with all that carbon tat.
It still looked quite stiff and bouncy on camera, even with the softer springs, despite what Harry said, and it's a shame it's auto only. It looks like a dogs dinner with all that carbon tat.
I thought that it made a lovely noise, but I have always thought that the roof looks like a bit of a faff though. If I had one, I'd just leave the roof off all the time and just park it up in the garage. I'll never put the roof on the Caterham either for example, because it is just too much hassle, plus I'd imagine that it isn't all that enjoyable to drive with the roof on anyway.
Jobbo said:
These days? The Boxster roof has been a simple and quick button press for about 27 years. I think the theatre of taking the top off the Spyder would lose its appeal pretty quickly for anyone who has actually used a normal Boxster roof.
But how many times would you be taking it off or putting it up? It's not a daily driver. It's a car for special occasions. It's a complete non issue for me. Actually, I consider it an advantage over the normal soft top that you can put the canvas up and not use the rear window, thus having protection from the elements but still having free access to the sound behind.When I was a kid, my family had both a Daihatsu Feroza and Suzuki Vitara that had rear soft tops that were manually operated, fiddly and often leaky. Nobody ever complained.
sisu said:
Well the $40,000 + question? Is fitting the better looking earlier 987 Spyder with the later 992 9000rpm engine a better recipe?
As Jethro did with his hotrod 996?
I watched that video and it was not a simple swap. As Jethro did with his hotrod 996?
A better alternative that is similar in price is the DeMan 4.5 engine - an enlarged 4.0 GTS, that you can have with an manual. It puts out about 550-560 hp, but doesn't rev as high as the 4.0 motorsport engine.
https://demanmotorsport.com/4-5l-cayman/
sisu said:
Well the $40,000 + question? Is fitting the better looking earlier 987 Spyder with the later 992 9000rpm engine a better recipe?
As Jethro did with his hotrod 996?
It's not an easy swap. Jethro said at one point he wouldn't have started the project if he'd known how difficult it would be, and Litchfield who did the work won't build another one.As Jethro did with his hotrod 996?
ArgonautX said:
Sway said:
Did I miss any mention of gearing? Aware a criticism of prior examples was way too high gearing with 2nd hitting 80mph or something ridiculous?
he did mention it has a quite short gearing.Venisonpie said:
ArgonautX said:
Sway said:
Did I miss any mention of gearing? Aware a criticism of prior examples was way too high gearing with 2nd hitting 80mph or something ridiculous?
he did mention it has a quite short gearing.Have to say, it crossed my mind as he showed the dash hitting the upper echelons of the tacho through 3rd and into 4th...
The roof commentary is such a non-event.
Check the sky...check a weather app.....decide on roof up or down before leaving.
The end.
This car, or even a 'regular' Spyder like mine, really isn't a 'daily', and anyone that does a) gets my admiration and b) would've been better off with a GTS.
This is a fair weather weekend or evening toy, with emergency weather protection in an emergency.
I've taken mine to Le Mans and back from Somerset with roof down each way, because I can see the weather in advance.
I've taken it to North Wales and back too, and stopped just prior to a deluge.
There is simply no drama with a roof that has a bit of manual work involved....of course a push button affair at 30mph would be more convenient, but again this is not a car for convenience...it's a car for experience.
Check the sky...check a weather app.....decide on roof up or down before leaving.
The end.
This car, or even a 'regular' Spyder like mine, really isn't a 'daily', and anyone that does a) gets my admiration and b) would've been better off with a GTS.
This is a fair weather weekend or evening toy, with emergency weather protection in an emergency.
I've taken mine to Le Mans and back from Somerset with roof down each way, because I can see the weather in advance.
I've taken it to North Wales and back too, and stopped just prior to a deluge.
There is simply no drama with a roof that has a bit of manual work involved....of course a push button affair at 30mph would be more convenient, but again this is not a car for convenience...it's a car for experience.
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