If Carlsberg made NAS boxes.....

[flyingjase]

So I'm just about to buy a NAS device. I want to burn all of my CD's into a lossless format and all of my DVD's and Blu Rays onto the device.

I'll be pointing my Sonos to the CD's and using an HD wireless streamer to transmit the Blu Rays to my Plasma.

If Carlsberg made NAS boxes, what spec / kit would it be????

[Plotloss]

Wireless transmission of bluray simply wont work.

[flyingjase]

Plotloss said:

Wireless transmission of bluray simply wont work.

Interesting - obviously you have a lots of experience of this, so in your view it's not worth investing in something like this:-

http://www.brite-view.com/air_synchd.php

Also I thought the latest Apple kit could transmit HD wirelessly?

[Plotloss]

Depends which wireless you're talking about.

That's a PTP system, not a 802.11 system.

If you're talking about streaming a bluray disc from a NAS to a player such as the Popcorn Hour over 802.11 you will likely be disappointed.

[flyingjase]

Plotloss said:

Depends which wireless you're talking about.

That's a PTP system, not a 802.11 system.

If you're talking about streaming a bluray disc from a NAS to a player such as the Popcorn Hour over 802.11 you will likely be disappointed.

Now you're confusing me!!!

What's the difference between PTP and 802.11?

[Plotloss]

Same as the difference between FM and GSM or in comparative terms English and Swahili.

It's a different wireless standard.

[flyingjase]

Plotloss said:

Same as the difference between FM and GSM or in comparative terms English and Swahili.

It's a different wireless standard.

Ok, so what you're saying is that you can transmit a Blu Ray via PTP but not via 802.11?

[Plotloss]

flyingjase said:

Plotloss said:

Same as the difference between FM and GSM or in comparative terms English and Swahili.

It's a different wireless standard.

Ok, so what you're saying is that you can transmit a Blu Ray via PTP but not via 802.11?

Essentially yes.

[TuxRacer]

You could stream a reasonably compressed 1080p file over a "300mbps" 802.11n connection, surely? How much bandwidth is necessary; is 50-80mbps not even close to adequate or are the claimed figures for wireless really that far out?

[Plotloss]

Networks only ever run at about 45% of their headline rate. So of 300mb, that's over 150mb gone for a start.

Then there's contention etc. Even compressed HD material is choppy over wireless.

[joe_90]

They kind of treat that as a 'burst' speed, not a solid stable connection. So get a real cable in, or use one of those networks that use the sockets in your house.

Also you know how much a BR takes up in disc space right?

Also you possibly getting confused about HD. You can transmit what apple or youtube call 'HD' however there are loads of different formats.

You may get away with x264, but a 'raw' HD bR stream, no chance the bitrate is far too high.

The best option (even though a 'grey' area).
Download in x264 in HD all the films you have, just get the 1080p 10-12G versions.

Edited by joe_90 on Tuesday 19th October 14:14

[Podie]

Plotloss said:

stuff

This man knows his onions.

[JustinP1]

If it helps my Apple Airport Extreme and Macbook Pro streams 1080p pretty easily.

The issue would be whether you wanted 7 channels of audio as well. That I've never needed to test.

[foz01]

Speakign of NAS, i have just bought one, need to transfer 750gb of music from an external HDD to it, One is imagining this will take forever, over usb2 that took about 12 hours how much slower will that be over a network?

[mike_knott]

foz01 said:

Speakign of NAS, i have just bought one, need to transfer 750gb of music from an external HDD to it, One is imagining this will take forever, over usb2 that took about 12 hours how much slower will that be over a network?

Some nas devices have pretty slow (~2 mbyte/s) USB transfer rates.

100 mbit/s ethernet should give you about 10 mbyte/s, gig ethernet will be 10 times faster.

It would be worth connecting the HDD to the computer, and connecting the computer to the nas via ethernet.

Mike...

[flyingjase]

I've been recommended to buy one of these. Does anyone have any experience or comments on them?

http://www.ava-media.com/p/1166537/rs5x-media-serv...

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/desktops/360598/tra...

[VEX]

flyingjase said:

I've been recommended to buy one of these. Does anyone have any experience or comments on them?

http://www.ava-media.com/p/1166537/rs5x-media-serv...

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/desktops/360598/tra...

I have just used an RS5 on an install and I was impressed, we had to add a couple of bits of freeware to get it ripping DVD's properly but after that it seems to be working well.

Talking to them I was then able to install Twonky Media onto the server side and now the clients SOny DVD Player can see into it and play any of the DVD's stored on there via the DNLA connection. Oh and I added cost effective iPad control of his whole system this week.

I am just waiting for enough funds to buy a server myself and test it with the new Apple TV.

HTH

V.

[flyingjase]

VEX said:

flyingjase said:

I've been recommended to buy one of these. Does anyone have any experience or comments on them?

http://www.ava-media.com/p/1166537/rs5x-media-serv...

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/desktops/360598/tra...

I have just used an RS5 on an install and I was impressed, we had to add a couple of bits of freeware to get it ripping DVD's properly but after that it seems to be working well.

Talking to them I was then able to install Twonky Media onto the server side and now the clients SOny DVD Player can see into it and play any of the DVD's stored on there via the DNLA connection. Oh and I added cost effective iPad control of his whole system this week.

I am just waiting for enough funds to buy a server myself and test it with the new Apple TV.

HTH

V.

Thanks - sounds like that's the one to go for then

Did you rip any Blu Rays on the install?

[bogie]

im testing some of these wireless bridges right now, they are the first 802.11 ones ive used that can stream blu-ray just fine ...its not the max bandwidth requirements, its the packet loss thats important. On most wireless networks, packet loss can be 10-30% one room away

I can run a 90 min movie and not get a single packet lost with these, and 60Mbps througput in the next room where my blu-ray player is

not cheap, but more tidy than running a cable I guess

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-r...

[flyingjase]

bogie said:

im testing some of these wireless bridges right now, they are the first 802.11 ones ive used that can stream blu-ray just fine ...its not the max bandwidth requirements, its the packet loss thats important. On most wireless networks, packet loss can be 10-30% one room away

I can run a 90 min movie and not get a single packet lost with these, and 60Mbps througput in the next room where my blu-ray player is

not cheap, but more tidy than running a cable I guess

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-r...

Great shout - thanks - looks like I'll have to wait until next month to buy one officially but it sounds like it will be worth it.