My first 3D movie experience (viewed on Blu Ray)

[TonyRPH]

We decided to watch a 3D movie on BD last night.

However, not even 5 minutes in, and I simply couldn't watch it.

Although there was some 3D effect present, the colour was wrong with everything having a purple hue.

There were 4 of us watching, and we generally agreed that the hues were not good, although my vision seemed to be the worst affected.

We resorted to watching the 2D version.

This was viewed on an LG 42" Plasma and Sony BDP-S350 BD player.

The movie required those cardboard 3D glasses (supplied).

All in all, a disappointing experience for all present.

[Plotloss]

That's always been the case though.

'Proper' 3D on a 3D set is far superior as it doesn't rely on colour shift.

[bobthemonkey]

Ah, this was st 3d, not modern 3d.

This would have been been the same red and green lens tech they were using in the 70s. Modern 3D needs powered, active shutter glasses for home use.

I fear I may need the 'woosh' having read this again.

[TonyRPH]

Yes, it is the old tech stuff - a technique which I think dates back even further than the 70's.. (and if not the same technique, then surely one based on 50's 3D stuff).

[Oakey]

This modern 3D, does it require the viewer to have vision in both eyes? And are those people who may have lost vision in one eye screwed?

[HowMuchLonger]

Oakey said:

This modern 3D, does it require the viewer to have vision in both eyes? And are those people who may have lost vision in one eye screwed?

Tends to be that those with only one eye do not have the best depth perception in real life, let alone watching 3d tv!

[TonyRPH]

I used to work with a chap who only had vision in one eye.

He seemed to manage quite well, with judging the position of his car etc.

So I guess the brain compensates for the loss of one eye.

But I can't see if / how this would work with 3D TV though!

[Tycho]

bobthemonkey said:

Modern 3D needs powered, active shutter glasses for home use.

There are 2 types of 3d for the home market. 1 is the active shutter you mentioned and the other is polarised lenses in the glasses (same as the cinema) with a special filter on the tv.

[randlemarcus]

TonyRPH said:

I used to work with a chap who only had vision in one eye.

He seemed to manage quite well, with judging the position of his car etc.

So I guess the brain compensates for the loss of one eye.

But I can't see if / how this would work with 3D TV though!

IIRC the brain compensates by getting the eye to look left and right, in order to provide the differential that gives depth.

The polarised and shutter glasses work the same way as the stereoscope things from ages ago, by showing each eye a slightly different image. So I suspect the one eyed chap might have an issue with the new 3d tellies. Hopefully, they'll get demos before buying

[bobthemonkey]

Tycho said:

bobthemonkey said:

Modern 3D needs powered, active shutter glasses for home use.

There are 2 types of 3d for the home market. 1 is the active shutter you mentioned and the other is polarised lenses in the glasses (same as the cinema) with a special filter on the tv.

I didn't realise anyone had an active screen/polarised glasses solution on the home Market. I did see that RealD had licenced their z-screen tech for home use, it would be nice to pop one of those in front of a decent projector.

[JustinP1]

TonyRPH said:

Yes, it is the old tech stuff - a technique which I think dates back even further than the 70's.. (and if not the same technique, then surely one based on 50's 3D stuff).

Were you at all surprised that it was as st today as it was then?

IMHO the title of the thread and the first part of the OP is a bit misleading as readers including myself will assume that that you are talking about the type of 3D which was released on Sky a couple of days ago on 3D TVs released in the last few months rather than the 70's stuff.

By the way, the 2010 tech and how well it works is nothing like what you have experienced.

[DSLiverpool]

Ive been watching the golf on my panny 50" with sky 3d feed.

Most impressive site is the graphic score cards, otherwise its a good picture but not unnaturally 3d`d ie its a normal golf programme with added depth no golf balls zinging out of the screen

[kieranasaurus]

i was playing on my ps3 and its just updated to allow 3d blu rays much earlier than expected so watch it if you are planning on buying a 3d blu ray play any time soon.

[Tycho]

bobthemonkey said:

Tycho said:

bobthemonkey said:

Modern 3D needs powered, active shutter glasses for home use.

There are 2 types of 3d for the home market. 1 is the active shutter you mentioned and the other is polarised lenses in the glasses (same as the cinema) with a special filter on the tv.

I didn't realise anyone had an active screen/polarised glasses solution on the home Market. I did see that RealD had licenced their z-screen tech for home use, it would be nice to pop one of those in front of a decent projector.

We have a polarised JVC (iirc) in work and it's pretty nice.

[TonyRPH]

JustinP1 said:

TonyRPH said:

Yes, it is the old tech stuff - a technique which I think dates back even further than the 70's.. (and if not the same technique, then surely one based on 50's 3D stuff).

Were you at all surprised that it was as st today as it was then?

No.

[headcase]

I think some of the BluRay producers are bandwagonning, there are so many Blu-Rays out at the moment that advertise 3D and come with cardboard glasses knowing full well people will think they are for the new technology.

[PJ S]

bobthemonkey said:

Tycho said:

bobthemonkey said:

Modern 3D needs powered, active shutter glasses for home use.

There are 2 types of 3d for the home market. 1 is the active shutter you mentioned and the other is polarised lenses in the glasses (same as the cinema) with a special filter on the tv.

I didn't realise anyone had an active screen/polarised glasses solution on the home Market. I did see that RealD had licenced their z-screen tech for home use, it would be nice to pop one of those in front of a decent projector.

The projector itself has to be 3-D enabled, so if it's not, then it's a non-starter.

[Chris77]

randlemarcus said:

TonyRPH said:

I used to work with a chap who only had vision in one eye.

He seemed to manage quite well, with judging the position of his car etc.

So I guess the brain compensates for the loss of one eye.

But I can't see if / how this would work with 3D TV though!

IIRC the brain compensates by getting the eye to look left and right, in order to provide the differential that gives depth.

The polarised and shutter glasses work the same way as the stereoscope things from ages ago, by showing each eye a slightly different image. So I suspect the one eyed chap might have an issue with the new 3d tellies. Hopefully, they'll get demos before buying

I'm Intrigued by this. I have a lazy eye and in a very basic way can only use one eye at a time, so the old style of red and green glass's always meant I saw a red blur or a green blur. When I get chance I will be going to the local Curry's for a demo so will report back

[The Excession]

Chris77 said:

I'm Intrigued by this. I have a lazy eye and in a very basic way can only use one eye at a time, so the old style of red and green glass's always meant I saw a red blur or a green blur. When I get chance I will be going to the local Curry's for a demo so will report back

Me too. I remember years ago taking the little fella to the London Science Museum, we went to the their IMAX for the space flight film, and being given polarising glasses (as opposed to the red/green crap) I was excited to think it might work for me.

To be honest it worked really well, the little fella at times was reaching out his hand to try and touch the stuff that was in front of him which made me giggle.

Without glasses, I saw a bit of the Ryder Cup golf that was supposedly in 3D last weekend and it looked like it was just the old green/red shift from days of old, the colours were just all wrong on the TV.

So I don't know if it will ever be really good, I imagine it might be. One thing is for sure, unless they can come up with some really cheap mass market solution that works for a pub full of people watching footy on a saturday afternoon then it will only be a specialised market.

[JustinP1]

The Excession said:

...One thing is for sure, unless they can come up with some really cheap mass market solution that works for a pub full of people watching footy on a saturday afternoon then it will only be a specialised market.

I am not sure whether you are aware, but Sky have been heavily promoting 3D for the last few months and demoing it by providing 3D in pubs for the Saturday afternoon game.