£700 TV - good motion handling - not Panny :(

[Legend83]

Hi all,

Looking to replace my Pioneer LCD due to its frankly dire motion-handling.

Obvious choice was a Panny 42" G20 plasma - great value at the moment.

Unfortunately, I popped into M&S this lunchtime to have a look and instantly noticed a flickering in my peripheral vision as I viewed this set. It would just not go away.

Gutted.

So what else is there that would give me an improved PQ / motion-handling (i.e. smooth, not juddery or blurry) at this price point?

Max size is 42".

[TEKNOPUG]

Legend83 said:

Hi all,

Looking to replace my Pioneer LCD due to its frankly dire motion-handling.

Obvious choice was a Panny 42" G20 plasma - great value at the moment.

Unfortunately, I popped into M&S this lunchtime to have a look and instantly noticed a flickering in my peripheral vision as I viewed this set. It would just not go away.

Gutted.

So what else is there that would give me an improved PQ / motion-handling (i.e. smooth, not juddery or blurry) at this price point?

Max size is 42".

Are you sure it wasn't any of the following causing the flickering:

the setup of the display TV
the media source and quality
the lighting ambience

[Plotloss]

Fluros, almost certainly.

[Deva Link]

I'm sensitive to that and ours doesn't flicker.

If you want one, buy it on-line, or from Costco if available there, then you can send it back if you're not happy.

[Legend83]

TECKNOPUG - not sure what setting it was on but the ambient light was relatively low for a show room. It was running a BBC HD feed....

Plotty - fluros?

[JustinP1]

Legend83 said:

TECKNOPUG - not sure what setting it was on but the ambient light was relatively low for a show room. It was running a BBC HD feed....

Plotty - fluros?

Flickering lights in the showroom.

You can get like a 'zoetrope' type effect like if you film a TV.

[Deva Link]

JustinP1 said:

Legend83 said:

TECKNOPUG - not sure what setting it was on but the ambient light was relatively low for a show room. It was running a BBC HD feed....

Plotty - fluros?

Flickering lights in the showroom.

You can get like a 'zoetrope' type effect like if you film a TV.

Unless it's a store that hasn't been refurbed for a long time then they'll be using electronic ballasts with their fluorescent's and they don't flicker.

[GregE240]

Legend83 said:

Plotty - fluros?

At a guess - strobe effect due to fluorescent lights...

Edited by GregE240 on Thursday 30th September 16:34

[Legend83]

If I bought this from Amazon to try it in my home, do you imagine they would accept a return if flickering was still an issue?

Bearing in mind it is more of a biological sensitivity rather than a fault with the set?

[Deva Link]

Legend83 said:

If I bought this from Amazon to try it in my home, do you imagine they would accept a return if flickering was still an issue?

Bearing in mind it is more of a biological sensitivity rather than a fault with the set?

They don't have any choice if you return within 7 days.

Couldn't you look at one somewhere else - maybe a Panasonic shop will have a home demo capability?

I notice a couple of the reviews on the Amazon site mention flicker.

Edited by Deva Link on Thursday 30th September 16:47

[Legend83]

Might try and check out a Philips 42PFL9664 to - very, very good reviews for an LCD.

[JimNoble]

Legend83 said:

Hi all,
Looking to replace my Pioneer LCD due to its frankly dire motion-handling.
...
So what else is there that would give me an improved PQ / motion-handling (i.e. smooth, not juddery or blurry) at this price point?
Max size is 42".

Any of the Sonys that use Bravia Engine 3... (eg. KDL-40W5500 would appear to be available within your budget, just about).

If you stretched your budget a little bit you might even find a 200Hz model...

Jim

[headcase]

Ive installed loads, not noticed flicker on any of them.