TV Experts Talk me out of this

TV Experts Talk me out of this

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DSLiverpool

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15,041 posts

208 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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http://www.t3.com/reviews/tv/lcd-tv/samsung-9000-s...

Can get for just over £4k with 5 year warranty BUT I have always had Pan / Sony

Anyone in the biz / seriously clued up that can make a good case not to buy it ?

I will use 2D more than 3D and the streaming facility is a major factor but Im nervy of Korean kit (naive maybe)

u13rr1

527 posts

207 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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Get yourself a top of the line full-HD projector for a lot less than that and have 100"+ screen size and about a tenth of the electricity costs.

DSLiverpool

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15,041 posts

208 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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Thing is this does all I want and the Mrs can use it, I am techy and can handle a projector (can get them trade even) but for the everyday tv watching I fancy this but Im wary it might be overstyled crap with ots of features and a poor pic.

No-one seems to have one on display but Im working on it

PJ S

10,842 posts

233 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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£4K?
More money than sense if you ask me, but seeing as you weren't, then if you've got that sort of bread to throw about, it's a no-brainer - Panny 54Z1 or 50/65VT20 Plasma.
Nice looking set, which all fair credit to Samsung, they do make, and the remote's a bit nifty looking too - long term though could be a very different kettle of chips.

Panny or someone's cast off Pioneer KPA500.

headcase

2,389 posts

223 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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Its an awesome set, 7k is stupidly priced, 4k is very expensive for a TV but if you have it to spend then good for you. This set does actually feature local dimming wich does make a big difference to the picture and the remote control lets you watch (or preview as they call it) another channel. Bear in mind that you either buy it with a ped or a wall bracket and all of your connections are on the ped/wall bracket none are on the TV, it still suffers with the same image processing errors that the standard LED's have. If you are going for the bling factor then go for it, if you want just an awesome TV then go for the Panna 50/65VT20

headcase

2,389 posts

223 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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DSLiverpool said:
Thing is this does all I want and the Mrs can use it, I am techy and can handle a projector (can get them trade even) but for the everyday tv watching I fancy this but Im wary it might be overstyled crap with ots of features and a poor pic.

No-one seems to have one on display but Im working on it
There is one on display in Martin Dawes in warrington wink

Plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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In the 2D arena the 50V20 is a better set in every way.

In the 3D arena, the 50VT20 and the 65VT20 outclass it on 2D too.

If the question is 'I need a telly', Samsung is extremely rarely the answer.

DSLiverpool

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15,041 posts

208 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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1, I like a good tv and dont mind the investment as we will get good use from it
2, I agree Samsung isnt a normal high end answer hence the topic / thread
3, I will go to warrington and have a look BUT you see some crap on display and is it fair to judge
4, Im a pan (comms) dealer and may get a deal on a tv - will check - could swing it

Appreciate the input

DSLiverpool

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15,041 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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Decided to go for the Pan and have a holiday with the balance, not as sexy but half the Samsung price and a no brainer in reality

Thanks for help guys

oola

2,546 posts

229 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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Wise move! A Samsung at that price is a lot of money ... it's competing with much better products frankly. A customer of ours insisted on buying one after seeing one in the states ... we had already bought and installed 3 x 32" Philips, 2 x 42 Philips Ambilight TV's and two bathroom TV's within the previous 6 months.

As above, I think you need more money than sense to consider one!biggrin

headcase

2,389 posts

223 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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One of our guys are going out to install one tomorrow, someone someware has more money than sence :P

DSLiverpool

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15,041 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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Obviously some "connected" people on here so where best to buy ? not bothered about cheapest of the cheap but if anything goes wrong i want service (as i offer myself)

No brainer is J Lewis but any tips ?

headcase

2,389 posts

223 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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We deal with John Lewis service and have nothing but complaints from their customers reguarding being left with faulty/wrong TV's for days on end. Yes at the end of the day they will replace your TV in the 5 year period but for some people the road is long. You would be much better getting your panna from a local dealer, the Panna 5year warantee is a real Panna one so it will be fixed within the dealer network not just swapped out eventually by a salesman who dosent quite know what he is doing yet wink

DSLiverpool

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15,041 posts

208 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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Ive got a Peters hifi near me at work so will pop in today and have a look.

markbigears

2,323 posts

275 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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I'm a plasma dyed in the wool fan, and would never usually look at a samsung, panny all the way usually, but this set has a stonking picture, yes it has faults, but don't they all. Have had a demo on this and was very impressed. Too much money, but with a HD feed, blew me away.

DSLiverpool

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15,041 posts

208 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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I got the pan and its being delivered friday am, free blu ray player and aI also got some speakers Q Acoustics TV2 that strap to the back of the TV with a sub - its not HiFi but its not bad

Im an online retailer (and a Pan dealer) but didnt fancy getting it online in case of hassle, the 5 year warranty is only from dealers and by redemption so they are trying to protect B&M dealers from net sellers

Called sky to activate 3D (took 2 mins to get through and do it - very impressed) and its active - 2 pics side by side for now lol

In future I will set up a home cinema with a projector - maybe in a few years

JustinP1

13,330 posts

236 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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DSLiverpool said:
1, I like a good tv and dont mind the investment as we will get good use from it
2, I agree Samsung isnt a normal high end answer hence the topic / thread
3, I will go to warrington and have a look BUT you see some crap on display and is it fair to judge
4, Im a pan (comms) dealer and may get a deal on a tv - will check - could swing it

Appreciate the input
Funnily enough as I live 1/2 mile from Martin Dawes and the wife was messing around in next today I walked next door for a look.

They had the Samsung 9000 series 55 inch LED up at circa £4500 and the Samsung 8000 series 55 inch LED up at circa £2200. One above the other.

Mistake.

I must say even as someone who has spent a good five figures on AV I was impressed. But, to be frank, I could not see what I was getting for double the price at all. Sure I could see a subjective *slight* difference in picture, but, without showing me which was which I could not tell you which was the 'better'.

Both had the '3Dish' quality that LCDs have where movement in the foreground seems to be 'hyperreal'. By that I mean 'realer than real' like a great sense of depth but it was all two depths foreground *or* background and even more hyped than reality.

I've noticed this on a number of LCDs is this a function of the image processing? I'm not sure I like it at all. Or at least I'd have to get used to it.

On the other hand, the 65 inch 3D Panasonic plasma at £4500 looked perfect to me, but pricey for that you can get today. The image seemed much more natural, or, it was just similar to what I was used to (plasma).

Plotty, and others, is this usually the case?

headcase

2,389 posts

223 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Yup thats about it in a nutshell.