If This Is True - Don't Buy A 3-D TV Right Now!

[im]

Toshiba announce 3-D Tellys are in the pipeline - with no glasses required!

http://tech.uk.msn.com/news/articles.aspx?cp-docum...

I know its been speculated about before but this time its the company execs saying its in development and whilst I don't believe they'll arrive any time soon I'd suspect 2012 or 2013 might not be unrealistic if they are that far ahead of the competition and want to make a huge financial killing while they have the market to themselves.

We'll see - but its certainly worth pausing for thought now if you were pondering a 3-D purchase in the near future.

[hman]

Is 3d going to be available through a standard plasma with the spacky glasses?

[Mojooo]

A top of the range 3D Tv will probably be quite cheap by the time those htings hit the market!

[mrmr96]

hman said:

Is 3d going to be available through a standard plasma with the spacky glasses?

No.

[mrmr96]

im said:

Toshiba announce 3-D Tellys are in the pipeline - with no glasses required!

They can't change how physics work. In order to get the 3D effect you'll have to be sat pretty much BANG in front of it (i.e. not off to either side) else it won't work. So only one or two (maybe three at a strech) would fit on a sofa in a position to see the image properly.

[hman]

mrmr96 said:

hman said:

Is 3d going to be available through a standard plasma with the spacky glasses?

No.

Ah well, I think I'll live.

[im]

mrmr96 said:

im said:

Toshiba announce 3-D Tellys are in the pipeline - with no glasses required!

They can't change how physics work. In order to get the 3D effect you'll have to be sat pretty much BANG in front of it (i.e. not off to either side) else it won't work. So only one or two (maybe three at a strech) would fit on a sofa in a position to see the image properly.

So why are they even bothering to develop something that clearly will be constrained by limitations right from day one???

Strange...

[mrmr96]

im said:

mrmr96 said:

im said:

Toshiba announce 3-D Tellys are in the pipeline - with no glasses required!

They can't change how physics work. In order to get the 3D effect you'll have to be sat pretty much BANG in front of it (i.e. not off to either side) else it won't work. So only one or two (maybe three at a strech) would fit on a sofa in a position to see the image properly.

So why are they even bothering to develop something that clearly will be constrained by limitations right from day one???

Strange...

Depends what you want from a TV.

When I'm sat on the edge of my sofa playing MW2 the wife is surfing the web on the laptop. I'm the only person looking at the TV and I'm sat on my sofa bang in the middle. So in that scenario I'd like a TV which was 3D (for the games) and wouldn't mind that I was the only person getting the full 3D experience as no one else was watching and it meant I didn't have to wear the goggles.

There will be uses out there for it, but I suspect they will be best for 'solitary' use, like gaming.

[im]

mrmr96 said:

There will be uses out there for it, but I suspect they will be best for 'solitary' use, like gaming.

But then they won't sell a lot of them, especially for peoples front rooms...so it still seems kinda odd.

I mean, imagine if they only made HD TV's with the same veiwing limitation...would you bother? I wouldn't as the minimum requirement is that me and at least one other person can sit back in 2 seperate chairs in my lounge and watch (say) the football.

If what you're saying is true then 3D TV's without glasses sound like a niche market product at best and a giant waste of R&D funds for Toshiba at worst.


ETA:

UPDATE: Apparently Toshiba are saying viewers will be able to enjoy the 3-D effect from "various positions".

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/news/2010/08/24/...

Edited by im on Tuesday 24th August 17:49

[mrmr96]

im said:

UPDATE: Apparently Toshiba are saying viewers will be able to enjoy the 3-D effect from "various positions".

We'll see; when it's launched and independently reviewed.

[Plotloss]

If they're using the same system as Samsung it'll be comically bad.

[MaximumJed]

mrmr96 said:

im said:

UPDATE: Apparently Toshiba are saying viewers will be able to enjoy the 3-D effect from "various positions".

We'll see; when it's launched and independently reviewed.

I believe they now use a system that creates various sweet spots that get a proper 3D effect, rather than it working from anywhere between x and y. Still doesn't say if they have cured the headaches though.

[im]

Plotloss said:

If they're using the same system as Samsung it'll be comically bad.

Presumably the mere fact thats its "in development" means it'll be a different system. The original link I pointed to in the opening post does say that its "not tiring on the eyes" which would also mean that headaches should be reduced...I'd have thought.

[Plotloss]

im said:

Plotloss said:

If they're using the same system as Samsung it'll be comically bad.

Presumably the mere fact thats its "in development" means it'll be a different system. The original link I pointed to in the opening post does say that its "not tiring on the eyes" which would also mean that headaches should be reduced...I'd have thought.

Well, it's either got to be a composite lens (like Samsung) or glasses I'd have thought.

You can't get away from the fact it has to display a stereoscopic image at the end of the day.

[Einion Yrth]

im said:

The original link I pointed to in the opening post does say that its "not tiring on the eyes" which would also mean that headaches should be reduced...I'd have thought.

Yes but it's a statement from a Toshiba spokesman; saying 'it gives you a mother of a headache' might just possibly be something of a career limiting move.

[im]

Einion Yrth said:

im said:

The original link I pointed to in the opening post does say that its "not tiring on the eyes" which would also mean that headaches should be reduced...I'd have thought.

Yes but it's a statement from a Toshiba spokesman; saying 'it gives you a mother of a headache' might just possibly be something of a career limiting move.

Agreed - hence the first 4 words of this threads title...

[BigBen]

mrmr96 said:

hman said:

Is 3d going to be available through a standard plasma with the spacky glasses?

No.

I have some 3D blue ray disks that work on my standard plasma with spacky glasses. So yes.

[mrmr96]

BigBen said:

mrmr96 said:

hman said:

Is 3d going to be available through a standard plasma with the spacky glasses?

No.

I have some 3D blue ray disks that work on my standard plasma with spacky glasses. So yes.

Red green? Hardly what the guy is asking about is it?

[headcase]

Funny, most current Toshiba models are Vestel in disguise

[BigBen]

mrmr96 said:

BigBen said:

mrmr96 said:

hman said:

Is 3d going to be available through a standard plasma with the spacky glasses?

No.

I have some 3D blue ray disks that work on my standard plasma with spacky glasses. So yes.

Red green? Hardly what the guy is asking about is it?

It was the word 'spacky' that lead me to believe that was exactly what he meant.