Samsung LED 6 Series
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Hiya,
I'm looking at getting a new TV. I'm after a good quality 32" LED TV.
I've got a Samsung flatscreen PC monitor which is great and would like to stick with the Samsung brand, but I'm playing spot the difference on the Samsung site and not winning.
The Samsung website shows lots of 32" LED's in the 6 series (about 3 in their new range and 3 from an older range)
I was looking at a UE32B6000 but now understand the UE32C6### is a newer range with 'Hyper Real Engine' rather than the previous 'Samsung LED Engine'. Whats the difference between the engines? Would I notice?
Also the UE32C6 range has three TV's in it UE32C6600 / 530 / 510 whats the difference between them, is it as simple as the different cases or stands but same internals?
Thanks
I'm looking at getting a new TV. I'm after a good quality 32" LED TV.
I've got a Samsung flatscreen PC monitor which is great and would like to stick with the Samsung brand, but I'm playing spot the difference on the Samsung site and not winning.
The Samsung website shows lots of 32" LED's in the 6 series (about 3 in their new range and 3 from an older range)
I was looking at a UE32B6000 but now understand the UE32C6### is a newer range with 'Hyper Real Engine' rather than the previous 'Samsung LED Engine'. Whats the difference between the engines? Would I notice?
Also the UE32C6 range has three TV's in it UE32C6600 / 530 / 510 whats the difference between them, is it as simple as the different cases or stands but same internals?
Thanks
What a dreadful site to use!
From their comparison table, it seems there's sod all difference other than looks/stand design, with the one exception of the 600 being PVR ready - sounds like the Panasonic G20 Plasma, where you can plug in a USB stick or drive, and record programmes to watch later on.
If you're spending that sort of money on a 32" TV, then you may as well spend it right - the Panasonic G20, and D25 (LED backlighting) TV's are worth considering.
The Samsung site isn't specific, but the motion resolution specs suggest the 530 is only capable of resolving 400 lines out of 1080, which quite frankly is completely dire!
With the Panasonics you're looking at 720 and 800 respectively, which means a lot less blurring on panning shots, etc.
Then again, at that price point, you're into 42" Plasma territory with better images as a result, or saving a bit of money if you opted for the X20 HD Ready models instead of the S20 Full HD ones.
From their comparison table, it seems there's sod all difference other than looks/stand design, with the one exception of the 600 being PVR ready - sounds like the Panasonic G20 Plasma, where you can plug in a USB stick or drive, and record programmes to watch later on.
If you're spending that sort of money on a 32" TV, then you may as well spend it right - the Panasonic G20, and D25 (LED backlighting) TV's are worth considering.
The Samsung site isn't specific, but the motion resolution specs suggest the 530 is only capable of resolving 400 lines out of 1080, which quite frankly is completely dire!
With the Panasonics you're looking at 720 and 800 respectively, which means a lot less blurring on panning shots, etc.
Then again, at that price point, you're into 42" Plasma territory with better images as a result, or saving a bit of money if you opted for the X20 HD Ready models instead of the S20 Full HD ones.
PJ S said:
What a dreadful site to use!
From their comparison table, it seems there's sod all difference other than looks/stand design, with the one exception of the 600 being PVR ready - sounds like the Panasonic G20 Plasma, where you can plug in a USB stick or drive, and record programmes to watch later on.
If you're spending that sort of money on a 32" TV, then you may as well spend it right - the Panasonic G20, and D25 (LED backlighting) TV's are worth considering.
The Samsung site isn't specific, but the motion resolution specs suggest the 530 is only capable of resolving 400 lines out of 1080, which quite frankly is completely dire!
With the Panasonics you're looking at 720 and 800 respectively, which means a lot less blurring on panning shots, etc.
Then again, at that price point, you're into 42" Plasma territory with better images as a result, or saving a bit of money if you opted for the X20 HD Ready models instead of the S20 Full HD ones.
Hiya,From their comparison table, it seems there's sod all difference other than looks/stand design, with the one exception of the 600 being PVR ready - sounds like the Panasonic G20 Plasma, where you can plug in a USB stick or drive, and record programmes to watch later on.
If you're spending that sort of money on a 32" TV, then you may as well spend it right - the Panasonic G20, and D25 (LED backlighting) TV's are worth considering.
The Samsung site isn't specific, but the motion resolution specs suggest the 530 is only capable of resolving 400 lines out of 1080, which quite frankly is completely dire!
With the Panasonics you're looking at 720 and 800 respectively, which means a lot less blurring on panning shots, etc.
Then again, at that price point, you're into 42" Plasma territory with better images as a result, or saving a bit of money if you opted for the X20 HD Ready models instead of the S20 Full HD ones.
Yeah Samsung site is pretty rubbish, not much help really.
Thanks for your detailed reply. Very helpful, I've looked at the G20 & D25 (TX-L32D25B) and it sounds very good. I would rather stick to a good quality 32", is my understanding that a LED is 'better' than and LED and then a plasma is 'better' than both correct?
Also Whats the difference between the HD Ready and Full HD?
Thanks
Edited by WarChild007 on Tuesday 1st June 10:52
For a 32" TV,LCD with LED backlighting is supposed to be the best.However because of the slim design of some of the new LCD/LED sets,audio is said to suffer.No room for speakers basically.This can be sidestepped if you connect your own amp etc.
1080i is HD ready whereas 1080p is full HD.As the 1080i is basically upscaled 720p (you following this?)it would be hard for the eye to differentiate between the two.The i is a very quickly flickering image (well it would be on a CRT telly but on a LCD it's simply upscaled)whereas the p is static.Soooo a geek friend of mine reckons that a 32" LCDTV with LED backlighting and full (1080p) HD is the one to go for.He's just forked out for a Samsung.There are other criteria for what makes a good TV,motionflow,engines etc but these deal more with fast movement on the screen,not so much picture/colour quality.If you're into footie then investigate motionflow.
1080i is HD ready whereas 1080p is full HD.As the 1080i is basically upscaled 720p (you following this?)it would be hard for the eye to differentiate between the two.The i is a very quickly flickering image (well it would be on a CRT telly but on a LCD it's simply upscaled)whereas the p is static.Soooo a geek friend of mine reckons that a 32" LCDTV with LED backlighting and full (1080p) HD is the one to go for.He's just forked out for a Samsung.There are other criteria for what makes a good TV,motionflow,engines etc but these deal more with fast movement on the screen,not so much picture/colour quality.If you're into footie then investigate motionflow.
goldblum said:
For a 32" TV,LCD with LED backlighting is supposed to be the best.However because of the slim design of some of the new LCD/LED sets,audio is said to suffer.No room for speakers basically.This can be sidestepped if you connect your own amp etc.
1080i is HD ready whereas 1080p is full HD.As the 1080i is basically upscaled 720p (you following this?)it would be hard for the eye to differentiate between the two.The i is a very quickly flickering image (well it would be on a CRT telly but on a LCD it's simply upscaled)whereas the p is static.Soooo a geek friend of mine reckons that a 32" LCDTV with LED backlighting and full (1080p) HD is the one to go for.He's just forked out for a Samsung.There are other criteria for what makes a good TV,motionflow,engines etc but these deal more with fast movement on the screen,not so much picture/colour quality.If you're into footie then investigate motionflow.
Thanks for the information, given me a better understanding of what I'm looking for.1080i is HD ready whereas 1080p is full HD.As the 1080i is basically upscaled 720p (you following this?)it would be hard for the eye to differentiate between the two.The i is a very quickly flickering image (well it would be on a CRT telly but on a LCD it's simply upscaled)whereas the p is static.Soooo a geek friend of mine reckons that a 32" LCDTV with LED backlighting and full (1080p) HD is the one to go for.He's just forked out for a Samsung.There are other criteria for what makes a good TV,motionflow,engines etc but these deal more with fast movement on the screen,not so much picture/colour quality.If you're into footie then investigate motionflow.
Been looking for the Panasonic TX-L32D25B, but no where seems to sell it, not even the Panasonic E-Shop. That seems to be the only 32" LED LCD they do?
What are your thoughts on SAMSUNG UE32C6000?
Edited by WarChild007 on Tuesday 1st June 11:31
WarChild007 said:
Been looking for the Panasonic TX-L32D25B, but no where seems to sell it, not even the Panasonic E-Shop. That seems to be the only 32" LED LCD they do?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-TX-L32D25B-32-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B003H4QMM6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1275388351&sr=8-1http://www.johnlewis.com/230962553/Product.aspx
And with JL you get the five year warranty and free Blu Ray player!
(LED/LCD is the same as LCD. It is an LCD screen edge lit with LED.)
You're right on the sound element of ultra-thin TV's, but no-one buying a 32" is remotely interested in the cinema experience, so the sounds produced will be more than likely adequate for their usage.
Regarding 1080i - it's purely a broadcast spec, and one which merely pays lip-service to the notion of higher numbers means better quality, such is our marketing conditioning over the years.
As a result, once deinterlaced to be available for the progressive panel to make use of and display, you've got about 810-820 vertical lines of resolution - not that much more than 720p gives, plus not all deinterlacing is artefact-free, when compared to the progressive 720 lines transmitted.
So, apart from period dramas and the like, setting the output on your HD set-top box to 720p remains the best choice.
LED backlighting brings better black level contrast ratio to the table, as well as the thinness of the overall unit - but other than that, there's nothing else it does to improve picture quality.
The pixels will still be slower than a Plasma's cells to operate, which given the motion resolution numbers mentioned previously, is something Plasma was doing 2-3 years ago!
Irrespective of whether it's football/sports or fast paced movies, the reduced blurring on a Plasma makes it a better proposition, when not governed by screen size.
To the OP, give some serious consideration to going to 37", if only to avail of the Panasonic 37X20 (HD Ready) Plasma display. You can still feed it 1080p from your BR player, but given it has a 1024x720 pixel matrix, you'd better off with sticking to 720p output.
For the money, you really can't beat it, and as you'll not be sitting close enough to benefit from any 1080p extra definition, you won't feel by not having a 1920x1080 native resolution panel, that you're missing out on something.
Regarding 1080i - it's purely a broadcast spec, and one which merely pays lip-service to the notion of higher numbers means better quality, such is our marketing conditioning over the years.
As a result, once deinterlaced to be available for the progressive panel to make use of and display, you've got about 810-820 vertical lines of resolution - not that much more than 720p gives, plus not all deinterlacing is artefact-free, when compared to the progressive 720 lines transmitted.
So, apart from period dramas and the like, setting the output on your HD set-top box to 720p remains the best choice.
LED backlighting brings better black level contrast ratio to the table, as well as the thinness of the overall unit - but other than that, there's nothing else it does to improve picture quality.
The pixels will still be slower than a Plasma's cells to operate, which given the motion resolution numbers mentioned previously, is something Plasma was doing 2-3 years ago!
Irrespective of whether it's football/sports or fast paced movies, the reduced blurring on a Plasma makes it a better proposition, when not governed by screen size.
To the OP, give some serious consideration to going to 37", if only to avail of the Panasonic 37X20 (HD Ready) Plasma display. You can still feed it 1080p from your BR player, but given it has a 1024x720 pixel matrix, you'd better off with sticking to 720p output.
For the money, you really can't beat it, and as you'll not be sitting close enough to benefit from any 1080p extra definition, you won't feel by not having a 1920x1080 native resolution panel, that you're missing out on something.
Samsung UE32C6000 looks like a cracking t.v,and there are some good prices out there.Pixmania and Amazon are usually the most competitive.
But..and it's a tiny but..the John Lewis warranty is nice,you'll just have to get a different t.v....haha
But..and it's a tiny but..the John Lewis warranty is nice,you'll just have to get a different t.v....haha
Edited by goldblum on Tuesday 1st June 17:15
PJ S said:
To the OP, give some serious consideration to going to 37", if only to avail of the Panasonic 37X20 (HD Ready) Plasma display. You can still feed it 1080p from your BR player, but given it has a 1024x720 pixel matrix, you'd better off with sticking to 720p output.
For the money, you really can't beat it, and as you'll not be sitting close enough to benefit from any 1080p extra definition, you won't feel by not having a 1920x1080 native resolution panel, that you're missing out on something.
Hiya, plasma is a nice idea but unfortunatly I do need a 32".For the money, you really can't beat it, and as you'll not be sitting close enough to benefit from any 1080p extra definition, you won't feel by not having a 1920x1080 native resolution panel, that you're missing out on something.
goldblum said:
Samsung UE32C6000 looks like a cracking t.v,and there are some good prices out there.Pixmania and Amazon are usually the most competitive.
But..and it's a tiny but..the John Lewis warranty is nice,you'll just have to get a different t.v....haha
I am swaying more towards the Panasonic, although I have just found a PANASONIC TX-L32D26B, which has thrown me as I cant see what the difference is between that and the TX-L32D25B, apart from I can get a L32D26B for £750 (inc a free BR player).But..and it's a tiny but..the John Lewis warranty is nice,you'll just have to get a different t.v....haha
Edited by goldblum on Tuesday 1st June 17:15
WarChild007 said:
PJ S said:
To the OP, give some serious consideration to going to 37", if only to avail of the Panasonic 37X20 (HD Ready) Plasma display. You can still feed it 1080p from your BR player, but given it has a 1024x720 pixel matrix, you'd better off with sticking to 720p output.
For the money, you really can't beat it, and as you'll not be sitting close enough to benefit from any 1080p extra definition, you won't feel by not having a 1920x1080 native resolution panel, that you're missing out on something.
Hiya, plasma is a nice idea but unfortunatly I do need a 32".For the money, you really can't beat it, and as you'll not be sitting close enough to benefit from any 1080p extra definition, you won't feel by not having a 1920x1080 native resolution panel, that you're missing out on something.
goldblum said:
Samsung UE32C6000 looks like a cracking t.v,and there are some good prices out there.Pixmania and Amazon are usually the most competitive.
But..and it's a tiny but..the John Lewis warranty is nice,you'll just have to get a different t.v....haha
I am swaying more towards the Panasonic, although I have just found a PANASONIC TX-L32D26B, which has thrown me as I cant see what the difference is between that and the TX-L32D25B, apart from I can get a L32D26B for £750 (inc a free BR player).But..and it's a tiny but..the John Lewis warranty is nice,you'll just have to get a different t.v....haha
Edited by goldblum on Tuesday 1st June 17:15
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