whats the simple difference ?

whats the simple difference ?

Author
Discussion

road hog

Original Poster:

2,570 posts

219 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
full hd

or hd ready

looking at 32" tvs just want a simple answer

Matt Evans

1,530 posts

180 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
Nothing.

Sixpackpert

4,664 posts

220 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
There is a difference depending what you are using it for.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/708897-h...

Matt Evans

1,530 posts

180 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
The only things that use 1080p are games and blu-ray (as far as I'm aware). Both HD ready and Full HD tv's can support 1080p.

Floor Tom

419 posts

191 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
I would have thought that at 32" you will need to be very close to see the difference between 1080p and 720p, but like the guy above me said, go to the AV forums. Loads of info on there.

louiebaby

10,651 posts

197 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
I'm no expert, but this seemed to be a useful graph...


FlossyThePig

4,092 posts

249 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
The resolution of a Full HD screen is usually 1920x1080 so it can display 1080p

HD ready will be less, but usually greater than 1280x720 so it can display 720p and claim to display 1080i

I've got a 32" Panasonic Full HD because I wanted a TV with built in Freesat and you can't get one without the other. Package included Bluray player and 7 disks. SWMBO commented that the picture was very clear when watching Ice Age 3

Edited by FlossyThePig on Friday 9th April 13:38

Matt Evans

1,530 posts

180 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
FlossyThePig said:
HD ready will be less, but usually greater than 1280x720 so it can display 720p and claim to display 1080i
Not necessarily true. Our television is HD Ready and supports 1080p.

the-gofer

651 posts

246 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
Matt Evans said:
Nothing.
Try here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_ready

"HD Ready" does not have to be compliant to any 1080p/distortion/native specs but must support 1080i.
"HD Ready 1080p" has to support all of the HD Ready specs & the additional 1080p/distortion/native specs.
"Full HD" simply suggests that the devices supports "1080p" but not necessarily the additional specs required to meet "HD Ready 1080p"

In short (based on requirements compliance alone from the specs)

HD Ready --better--> Full HD --better--> HD Ready 1080p

In reality, look at the pictures on the TVs you are comparing and buy the one you prefer. My Samsung 32" HD Ready telly displays pictures that in reality look just as good as my 1080p projector displaying on a 106" screen. Obviously this is down to things link colour reproduction, distortion, absolute pixel size, distance from the screen etc.

iggletiggle

1,380 posts

191 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
Matt Evans said:
Nothing.
Useful. rolleyes

Check the AV Forums mate for full detail but to break it down:

HD Ready is a tv ready to receive high def transmission in 720p (progressive scan over 720 lines) and was originally introduced as a stepping stone before Full HD (1080i / p - interlaced and progressive can over 1080 lines) was introduced.

A lot of manufacturers have been using HD READY to sell the cheaper product line products off and earning extra money on the FULL HD TV units that they sell.

Basically An HD READY unit will play HD Media but it will not be at high definition quality and so is pretty much pointless (although will *should* be better than a standard TV signal).

If you are looking to buy a new TV whether it is 32, 37, 42, 48, 50 or 60 inch TV - i would recommend going FULL HD. The tv is likely to then come with multiple HDMI (high def media interface) ports to help support a number of HD products (Sky HD Box, Bluray, xbox360/ps3) as well as being able to support the absolute highest quality of transmissions in HD.

It is also worth paying for a TV to be setup correctly for your signal strength/ambient lighting surrounds etc.. I have a Pioneer 50inch plasma that was transformed after a setup by a professional company and now you can genuinely see the difference with HD media (even against my 32inch Sony unit in the bedroom.

HTH

iggletiggle

1,380 posts

191 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
Matt Evans said:
FlossyThePig said:
HD ready will be less, but usually greater than 1280x720 so it can display 720p and claim to display 1080i
Not necessarily true. Our television is HD Ready and supports 1080p.
The new HD READY 1080P logo was introduced in the UK recently (within the last 18months)

As said above HD ready > Full HD > HD Ready 1080p

Although in reality the top two look extremely similar on most HD Media formats

ETA: It is a confusing world and each TV looks different in different environments. Go for what looks good for you and your eyes but i WOULD recomend going for a FULL HD/HD READY 1080p Panel where possible.

Edited again for poor spelling.


Edited by iggletiggle on Friday 9th April 13:41


Edited by iggletiggle on Friday 9th April 13:42


Edited by iggletiggle on Friday 9th April 13:43

Mr_Yogi

3,288 posts

261 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
iggletiggle said:
...Basically An HD READY unit will play HD Media but it will not be at high definition quality and so is pretty much pointless (although will *should* be better than a standard TV signal).
720p is a High Definition resolution you pleb.

And unless you sit very close to a 32" set the difference between an HD Ready and a True HD set won't be much, even with a 1080p input signal.

road hog

Original Poster:

2,570 posts

219 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
thanks folks

i bought a cheap (but ok) medion 32 full HD ,and after 1 week there has been some loss of pixels .

a black dot surrounded by lighter pixels (about 10 mm round) i was looking to take it back and replace with something else ,but for the price sub £300 ,most of the others are only HD ready.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

204 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
louiebaby said:
I'm no expert, but this seemed to be a useful graph...

1440p! Arse when is that due, I only bought a new TV before Christmas.

iggletiggle

1,380 posts

191 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
Mr_Yogi said:
iggletiggle said:
...Basically An HD READY unit will play HD Media but it will not be at high definition quality and so is pretty much pointless (although will *should* be better than a standard TV signal).
720p is a High Definition resolution you pleb.

And unless you sit very close to a 32" set the difference between an HD Ready and a True HD set won't be much, even with a 1080p input signal.
Clever but high defintion transmissions are sent in 1080P format, therefore a HD READY (720P) panel will not be at the transmitted high definition quality and in a lot of cases (as found with the older generation Philips LCD units) the 720p format was poorer quality than a standard digital transmission. Pleb.

deckster

9,631 posts

261 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
iggletiggle said:
Matt Evans said:
Nothing.
Useful. rolleyes
In the context of the question, it is the correct answer. Somebody looking for a 32" TV who wants a 'simple answer' will see precisely no difference between 720p, 1080i and 1080p. Your reply, whilst technically correct, is of no relevance to the question.

iggletiggle

1,380 posts

191 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
deckster said:
iggletiggle said:
Matt Evans said:
Nothing.
Useful. rolleyes
In the context of the question, it is the correct answer. Somebody looking for a 32" TV who wants a 'simple answer' will see precisely no difference between 720p, 1080i and 1080p. Your reply, whilst technically correct, is of no relevance to the question.
I would beg to differ. You can see (simply go to your local TV specialist and ask for a demo) a difference even on 32" between 720p and 1080p with a correctly set up TV.

and my comment about the reply being useful - expanding could have avoided any confusion or issues rather than a one word answer, that is all.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
iggletiggle said:
deckster said:
iggletiggle said:
Matt Evans said:
Nothing.
Useful. rolleyes
In the context of the question, it is the correct answer. Somebody looking for a 32" TV who wants a 'simple answer' will see precisely no difference between 720p, 1080i and 1080p. Your reply, whilst technically correct, is of no relevance to the question.
I would beg to differ. You can see (simply go to your local TV specialist and ask for a demo) a difference even on 32" between 720p and 1080p with a correctly set up TV.

and my comment about the reply being useful - expanding could have avoided any confusion or issues rather than a one word answer, that is all.
Depends how close you are.

32"

9.3ft from the screen all resolutions look the same
6.3ft 720p/1080i (HD Ready) is fully resolved
4.2ft 1080p (Full HD) is fully resolved

So you have to be 6'4" or closer to the screen to notice any difference between HD Ready and Full HD. For Full HD to look as good as it can, you need to be 4ft from the screen.

1080p is not, never has been and never will be a television resolution of any merit in 99% of applications.


voyds9

8,489 posts

289 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
road hog said:
thanks folks

i bought a cheap (but ok) medion 32 full HD ,and after 1 week there has been some loss of pixels .

a black dot surrounded by lighter pixels (about 10 mm round) i was looking to take it back and replace with something else ,but for the price sub £300 ,most of the others are only HD ready.
Try rubbing it with a duster, sometimes makes dead pixels work.

Matt Evans

1,530 posts

180 months

Friday 9th April 2010
quotequote all
iggletiggle said:
and my comment about the reply being useful - expanding could have avoided any confusion or issues rather than a one word answer, that is all.
I appreciate your point. But the OP asked for a simple answer. I researched the difference a lot whilst choosing our 32" television, and in my opinion as far as viewing quality goes - there is no difference. Expansion is more likely to confuse matters!