Samsung 55" LED TV

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zorba_the_greek

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737 posts

228 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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Afternoon peep,

Just wondering if anyone has already bought a SAMSUNG UE55B7020W 55" LED TV for their viewing pleasure or has done any indepth investigation on the unit.

(website used for picture ref only) would rather buy from JL and get 5 years warranty.

http://budson.com/uk/place_bid.php?auction_id=1089...

I was in John Lewis last week checking out TV's for my new flat and i was immediately drawn to it by the amazing clarity and colour of the pictures it projected.
Its super thin too

@ around £2,100 it aint cheap but i think LED is the way forward.

Cheers in advance for any feedback


Edited by zorba_the_greek on Wednesday 20th January 18:57

IforB

9,840 posts

235 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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It isn't an LED television. It's an LCD TV with LED backlighting and dodgy marketing to make you think it's an LED telly.

zorba_the_greek

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737 posts

228 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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IforB said:
It isn't an LED television. It's an LCD TV with LED backlighting and dodgy marketing to make you think it's an LED telly.
oh............does that make it a bad tv then?

If it's backlit with LEDs does that mean potentially more problems to look forward to?

In the flesh it looked amazing!

TIGA84

5,279 posts

237 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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My father has just bought one. I like it. A lot. its wafer thin as well. REALLY thin!

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

245 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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IforB said:
It isn't an LED television. It's an LCD TV with LED backlighting and dodgy marketing to make you think it's an LED telly.
If the picture is very good, does it matter?

As soon as Panasonic release something with similar technology it'll be ok of course rolleyes

Edited by Silver993tt on Wednesday 20th January 18:30

zorba_the_greek

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228 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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TIGA84 said:
My father has just bought one. I like it. A lot. its wafer thin as well. REALLY thin!
did he buy the 40" version or this 55" type? Is he happy with it? Where did he purhase it from if you don't mind me asking.



Can't remember who the 2 or 3 major screen producers are..... Is Samsung one of them?

IIRC Phillips is defo on the list......


headcase

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223 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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They do initially draw you in and i really would buy one just due to their bling factor! but.... they have many processing issues wich have put me off. If your just after a good screen then have a look at the Panasonic V10, it really is much better. If you have your heart set on an LED then have a propper look at them especially on SD and it built in tuner, if you can live with that picture quality then good on you, go get a blingtastic TV wink

Plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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54Z1 kicks the st out of it all day long every day of the week and some days I've just invented to underline the issue.

Legend83

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228 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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Plotloss said:
54Z1 kicks the st out of it all day long every day of the week and some days I've just invented to underline the issue.
I would not disagree having seen it in JL on the weekend....it was utterly stunning....but £4k - ouch.

IforB

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235 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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Silver993tt said:
IforB said:
It isn't an LED television. It's an LCD TV with LED backlighting and dodgy marketing to make you think it's an LED telly.
If the picture is very good, does it matter?

As soon as Panasonic release something with similar technology it'll be ok of course rolleyes

Edited by Silver993tt on Wednesday 20th January 18:30
The OP is saying that he's interested in it because it's an LED and that's the way forward. It isn't an LED TV. I make no comment on how good, bad or indifferent it is. Is my post that hard to understand?

This isn;t the first time that this misunderstanding has happened on here, which leads me to believe that people are being mislead.

i'm no superhero

301 posts

177 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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TIGA84 said:
My father has just bought one. I like it. A lot. its wafer thin as well. REALLY thin!
And? Just because the TV is a nice piece of furniture doesn't necessarily it produces a good picture. Yes, they look nice and look good with an animated BR disc, but then again so do most LCD screens.

I will leave Plotloss and Der to explain things as I will get shot down, but for the most comprehensive review have a look at this OP:

http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Samsung-UE40B6000V...

AFAIK the 6 series has exactly the same screen as the 7 series (and presumably the 200Hz 8 series just has a different 200Hz processor?) so the review is worthwhile, the only difference being the lack of DLNA etc.

tdm34ds

7,394 posts

216 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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The Advertising Standards Authority have recently instructed Samsung to stop using the
phrase LED-TV as it's misleading, so what do Samsung do? change to LED backlighting as
an advertising strapline, again a total lie! It uses LED edge lighting which immediately
removes any supposed advantage over CCFL backlighting, LED backlighting has the ability to
utilise a technique called local dimming where individual LEDs can be dimmed or switched off
in areas of the picture that are dark this helps because no manufacturer has yet come up with a way of making an LCD pixel not leak light when closed.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record if you're looking for Bling the Samsung fits the bill
but if you're looking for a quality TV for watching television on, then Plasma is still the
way to go.

With the much lauded Pioneer Kuro now being out of production the Panasonic V10 are the current
champion but you just can't get them anywhere, so have a look at the G10 series which are essentially the same set internally. But the 54Z1 as Plotters says is currently the best set out there, it's expensive at just over £4k but look at it as an investment you're not going to change it for 5-7 years, also it's widely suspected by those in the know' that the Z1 series sets have a
unique (for Panasonic) panel construction which apes very closely how the Pioneer Kuro sets panels
work............

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

245 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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buy the TV that you think has the best picture for you, not what others persuade to to buy because they have a self-interested agenda.

tdm34ds

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Wednesday 20th January 2010
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Silver993tt said:
buy the TV that you think has the best picture for you, not what others persuade to to buy because they have a self-interested agenda.
I've not got any agenda, Just 20 Years experience selling and setting up TVs, i'm only trying
to give helpful advise. But your advise to buy the TV that gives the OP the best picture is spot on
But the caveat is check the TV out on ALL sources including SD broadcasts with fast motion
and if he thinks it's the best TV for him then buy it.

IforB

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235 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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Silver993tt said:
buy the TV that you think has the best picture for you, not what others persuade to to buy because they have a self-interested agenda.
What planet are you on? Do you think the people on here are all Panasonic staff or shareholders?


Silver993tt

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Wednesday 20th January 2010
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IforB said:
Silver993tt said:
buy the TV that you think has the best picture for you, not what others persuade to to buy because they have a self-interested agenda.
What planet are you on? Do you think the people on here are all Panasonic staff or shareholders?
I never suggested that but now since you mention it scratchchinrolleyes

headcase

2,389 posts

223 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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tdm34ds said:
The Advertising Standards Authority have recently instructed Samsung to stop using the
phrase LED-TV as it's misleading, so what do Samsung do? change to LED backlighting as
an advertising strapline, again a total lie! It uses LED edge lighting which immediately
removes any supposed advantage over CCFL backlighting, LED backlighting has the ability to
utilise a technique called local dimming where individual LEDs can be dimmed or switched off
in areas of the picture that are dark this helps because no manufacturer has yet come up with a way of making an LCD pixel not leak light when closed.
Have you took on apart? I was under the impretion that they are edge lit but one of our bench tech's who recently fitted a new screen to one tells me they are indeed backlit and not edge lit as is commonly thought. Although i would have to see it myself to have total confidence in that statement.

tdm34ds said:
With the much lauded Pioneer Kuro now being out of production the Panasonic V10 are the current
champion but you just can't get them anywhere, so have a look at the G10 series which are essentially the same set internally. But the 54Z1 as Plotters says is currently the best set out there, it's expensive at just over £4k but look at it as an investment you're not going to change it for 5-7 years, also it's widely suspected by those in the know' that the Z1 series sets have a
unique (for Panasonic) panel construction which apes very closely how the Pioneer Kuro sets panels
work............
John Lewis must have them, I installed one yesterday for them, we have/had a couple the other day so if you look hard enough you will find a V10.

tdm34ds

7,394 posts

216 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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headcase said:
Have you took on apart? I was under the impretion that they are edge lit but one of our bench tech's who recently fitted a new screen to one tells me they are indeed backlit and not edge lit as is commonly thought. Although i would have to see it myself to have total confidence in that statement.
All current Samsung LED sets are edge lit, your bench tech probably saw the light tracks
from the edge lighting system.

jonlwright

1,825 posts

245 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Back on topic...

I bought the 40" Series 7 Samsung 'LED side lit' TV for the kitchen.

I have a Pioneer Plasma as my lounge TV.

I bought the Sammy, as it needed to be as flush as possible on the wall in the kitchen, and with the fantastic hanging mount they do for it, it looks the dogs danglies on the wall. I am also generally very impressed with the 'brightness' of the screen and the ability to play media from memory sticks and I also have the internet link with the wireless adapter for you-tube etc.

For the kitchen it is perfect. The picture is brilliant with a high quality source and most DTV broadcasts, but Sky through analogue RF isn't great, and some DTV broadcasts can look a bit 'affected' especially when close up.

Bottom line, I love the telly for what I bought it for - but I would not change it for my Pioneer plasma as my main lounge TV - and that is quite a few years old too!

garycat

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216 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Samsung demos tend to be very colourful (over saturated even) videos of slow moving objects I.e. I saw one of a girl walking through a garden looking at the flowers and I must admint it looked stunning.

However, before choosing a telly you need to watch some fast action in HD like sky sports football and something with a dark picture like a horror film to see where one set scores over another one.