how do i record freeview ?

how do i record freeview ?

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bimsb6

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227 months

Saturday 12th December 2009
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apologies if i am being a spacker here but i have just bought a sony bravia 40 " lcd tv with built in freeview ,i have sky and a hard drive recorder but cant work out how to record any of the digital freeview channels from the tv .

robinhood21

30,831 posts

238 months

Saturday 12th December 2009
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I would imagine there would have to be a 'digital out' on the TV for you to record from. Do you not have the same Freeview channels on Sky that you can record from?

bimsb6

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227 months

Saturday 12th December 2009
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not all the channels are the same,but what if i got rid of sky ?

robinhood21

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238 months

Saturday 12th December 2009
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I believe Sky do a one-off payment so one can use the Sky box as a Freeview receiver.

ETA: It's called FreeSat and the channels available can be viewed Here.

Edited by robinhood21 on Saturday 12th December 15:57

NathanJones

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219 months

Saturday 12th December 2009
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headcase

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223 months

Saturday 12th December 2009
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To record the freeview channels from your TV you need to connect it to a recording device such as a DVD recorder or a VCR using a SCART lead. Connect it between AV1 on the VCR and AV1 on the TV then select AV1 on the VCR, this will then record whatever channel the TV is tuned into. The down side of this is that you cant record one channel and watch another or even turn off the TV whilst you are recording, this really isnt the way to do it.
What you are suppost to do is to use a recorder that has a built in Freeview tuner, this allows you to record one channel while watching another and to switch off the TV during recordings.
You can get devices called PVR's such as a Humax 9150T for example, this will record onto its hard drive, or if you want to record onto media then something like a Panasonic DMREZ48 wich will allow freeview recordings onto video tape and onto DVD's.

bimsb6

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227 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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so what is the point of built in freeview in the tv ? seems to limit and confuse the options ,i would be better off with a seperate freeview box it seems ,thanks anyhow chaps i thought i was being a bit thick not being able to set the thing up .

OldSkoolRS

6,832 posts

185 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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bimsb6 said:
so what is the point of built in freeview in the tv ? seems to limit and confuse the options ,i would be better off with a seperate freeview box it seems ,thanks anyhow chaps i thought i was being a bit thick not being able to set the thing up .
The point is so you can watch digital TV without having separate boxes, so the whole setup is better intergrated and often easier to use.

Davel

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264 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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I'm so glad that it's not just me.

We bought a Samsung recorder which would record to HDD or DVD.

We looked at the guide on the TV and selected the programmes that we wanted to reord to HDD. The Samsung confirmed that it was to reord those programmes but it never did. The HDD library showed no recording.

e did use a scart lead and, in the end, took the Samsung back to the shop.

Do you just use a scart lead between the recorder and the tv or do you connect an aerial lead too?

- sorry don't mean to hijack your thread, only we're trying to achieve the same thing.

OldSkoolRS

6,832 posts

185 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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Davel, does your HDD/DVD recorder have a built in Freeview tuner? If so it would be easier to record using it's own tuner and guide to set recordings.

Howeverr, if it's an analogue recorder (and assuming you want to record a channel not available on analogue), then you will need to make sure the TV is set to output the digital TV signal via the scart (may need to read the manual to confirm any menu settings for this). Also you will need to select the appropriate external input on the HDD recorder (on my Sony it is 'Line 1' but may well be different on a Samsung). It's a fiddly process because you have to set the TV to go to the right channel at the right time and set your HDD to record from the external input at the right time....there is double the chance of mistakes with this method. The TV will probably need to be left in standby for this and you can usually only watch what is being recorded (due to a single digital tuner in the TV) or watch an analogue channel using the TV's analogue tuner.

Hard to explain clearly, so I hope this helps. I used to record to VCR years ago from my old Panasonic 'ITV digital' TV while watching another analogue channel and it didn't always work either.

robinhood21

30,831 posts

238 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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Ariel lead to recorder then, scart to TV should do the trick. Assuming that is; the recorder has a built-in tuner.

ETA: Sorry, did not see the above post.

Edited by robinhood21 on Sunday 13th December 12:23

bimsb6

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Sunday 13th December 2009
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its becoming clearer now thanks all, seems its getting more difficult to record a bloody programme than easier .

headcase

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223 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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It shouldnt be more difficult, you just need to remember that when you are recording something then you are not actually recording it from the TV but from your recording devices own tuner, this is the way it has always been. It only gets difficult when you try to record from the TV's tuner.
In the old days if you wanted to record itv then you would press 3 on your VCR then record, its exactly the same now for freeview if you have freeview equipment, this is where the confusion often lies whe you try to record freeview when you only have an analogue recorder.

bobthemonkey

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222 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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The choice tends to be either the Humax or Topfield box.

I have the Humax myself. Ariel into box, loop into TV. Tv to box via HDMI or SCART.

headcase

2,389 posts

223 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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There are also plenty of the vestel rubbish hanging around and they are bloody stupid to use. Also lots of people are using DVD/VCR combis rather than PVR's (DMREZ48 seems to be a good one)

gareth_r

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243 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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...and with a twin tuner PVR you can record two channels at the same time, and watch a third channel via the TV's tuner.

Edited by gareth_r on Monday 14th December 10:03

OldSkoolRS

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185 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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gareth_r said:
...and with a twin tuner PVR you can record two channels at the same time, and watch a third channel via the TV's tuner.

Edited by gareth_r on Monday 14th December 10:03
The reason for this is that there is hardly anything worth watching in TV most of the week, then three things you want to watch are on at the same time. smile

Deva Link

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251 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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bimsb6 said:
its becoming clearer now thanks all, seems its getting more difficult to record a bloody programme than easier .
I don't know this for certain, but as you have a Sony TV then if you get a Sony recorder you could presumeably set recordings from the TV's EPG.

You can certainly do that with Panasonic - it works as if the recorder is built-in to the set.

gareth_r

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Monday 14th December 2009
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OldSkoolRS said:
gareth_r said:
...and with a twin tuner PVR you can record two channels at the same time, and watch a third channel via the TV's tuner.

Edited by gareth_r on Monday 14th December 10:03
The reason for this is that there is hardly anything worth watching in TV most of the week, then three things you want to watch are on at the same time. smile
yes It seems to be some unwritten law of broadcast scheduling. smile

Edited by gareth_r on Monday 14th December 10:19