anybody any thoughts on 60inch Plasmas?
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http://www.richersounds.com/product/plasma-tv/lg/6...
I have been browsing round the RS site and found this above...
Any of the great and good of PH any comments about if this will be worth investing :-)
I am running Sky+ and thinking of the HD upgrade or maybe a freesat box
Its picture im interested in really as sound is by....
A Yam RX-V1900 Amp
with Denon DC8 fronts and DC4sig rears and centre
Not got blue ray but would get one at the same time
Wouldnt be running a games console (unless recommended getting PS3 instead of dedicated BR player?)
PS iam sitting bout 10ft away and it will be wall mounted above the fireplace (not used)
Cheers chaps
I have been browsing round the RS site and found this above...
Any of the great and good of PH any comments about if this will be worth investing :-)
I am running Sky+ and thinking of the HD upgrade or maybe a freesat box
Its picture im interested in really as sound is by....
A Yam RX-V1900 Amp
with Denon DC8 fronts and DC4sig rears and centre
Not got blue ray but would get one at the same time
Wouldnt be running a games console (unless recommended getting PS3 instead of dedicated BR player?)
PS iam sitting bout 10ft away and it will be wall mounted above the fireplace (not used)
Cheers chaps
A few of these turned up in our W/House last week, ive not seen one out of the box yet though 
. If they are anything like the previous 60" then they are quite good for the money, looks excellent on HD and quite watchable in SD. I seem to remember them not having a monitor out for the audio.
. If they are anything like the previous 60" then they are quite good for the money, looks excellent on HD and quite watchable in SD. I seem to remember them not having a monitor out for the audio.
You need a fair distance for this set to work and 10' is not it, I'm afraid.
If you must have bang/buck then it's as good as budget 60s+ go but honestly?
I genuinely think there are one or two Sony 52" LCDs which comprehensively outflank it but as ever, a well chosen/set up (Panasonic [yawn!
]) 50" plasma would be a much better bet.
Hell, I'm at a slightly closer proximity to a Pioneer 5090 and I'm having serious issues calibrating things 'just so.'
If you must have bang/buck then it's as good as budget 60s+ go but honestly?
I genuinely think there are one or two Sony 52" LCDs which comprehensively outflank it but as ever, a well chosen/set up (Panasonic [yawn!
]) 50" plasma would be a much better bet.Hell, I'm at a slightly closer proximity to a Pioneer 5090 and I'm having serious issues calibrating things 'just so.'
Funny this should come up, as we got an LG 60PS8000 a couple of days ago. I believe the 8000 is a slightly higher specced version of the 7000 you posted, but you can get it for the same price delivered from here.
As I said, we've only had it a couple of days but have been very impressed so far. Currently hooked up to a Freesat HDR box and the pictures are fantastic on BBC HD. I was a little worried that SD pictures would look blurry on a set this size, but they are actually pretty good from our viewing distance of roughly 15 feet. I've yet to move the xbox over from the Sony 46W2000 LCD in the other room, as I figured it might not be a great idea to start gaming until the plasma's had time to run in.
I know the Pioneer Kuro models are superior, but I'd be hard pushed to tell the differences personally and I don't think I'd feel the extra money for the Kuro was worth it. For the £1500 we paid, I think it's exceptionally good value. There's a comprehensive review on the same model in 50" guise over on AVForums and pretty much everything said there applies to the 60" model as well. It's worth noting that the 60" is reported to suffer much less from burn in than its 50" brother.
I also thought a 60" would dominate the room, but wasn't too bothered as the room it's in isn't the main living room. However, within a couple of days we got used to the size of it and it just blends in. Now each time I go into the main room and watch the 46", I think it's way too small (then again the viewing distance on that is about 25 feet).
Anyway, I say go for it and I very much doubt you'll be disappointed.
As I said, we've only had it a couple of days but have been very impressed so far. Currently hooked up to a Freesat HDR box and the pictures are fantastic on BBC HD. I was a little worried that SD pictures would look blurry on a set this size, but they are actually pretty good from our viewing distance of roughly 15 feet. I've yet to move the xbox over from the Sony 46W2000 LCD in the other room, as I figured it might not be a great idea to start gaming until the plasma's had time to run in.
I know the Pioneer Kuro models are superior, but I'd be hard pushed to tell the differences personally and I don't think I'd feel the extra money for the Kuro was worth it. For the £1500 we paid, I think it's exceptionally good value. There's a comprehensive review on the same model in 50" guise over on AVForums and pretty much everything said there applies to the 60" model as well. It's worth noting that the 60" is reported to suffer much less from burn in than its 50" brother.
I also thought a 60" would dominate the room, but wasn't too bothered as the room it's in isn't the main living room. However, within a couple of days we got used to the size of it and it just blends in. Now each time I go into the main room and watch the 46", I think it's way too small (then again the viewing distance on that is about 25 feet).
Anyway, I say go for it and I very much doubt you'll be disappointed.
Edited by wiffmaster on Tuesday 1st December 23:36
I got one of these (or whatever the previous model was, it is certainly a 60" LG Plasma thingy) about 18 months ago. It was specifically bought for a games room so 99% of the time is doing Xbox/Ps3/Wii stuff wit the occasional Blue Ray movie. Although it has a SkyTV feed and we do sometimes watch the Grand Prix on it, I find it a bit ott for normal telly watching. I am not particularly techy minded so can only say that the picture is as good as I hoped it would be. Whilst the games room was being converted from a garage we did put the telly in a few different rooms just to see how it looked but thought it really was a bit too dominating and made the room very tv centered.
derestrictor said:
He's at 10' v you're 15' and that is all the difference in the world; this fundamentally affects the rationale.
And btw, the Kuro was vastly, mind bendingly superior to the 60" LG chassis; as are the 600Hz Panny Vieras. Please!
I still find it quite acceptable at 10', even on SD. Though as expected, you do pick up more of the inaccuracies at this distance and so I suppose it may start to grate for long-term viewing. A smaller Panny or Sony might well be a better bet for the OP.And btw, the Kuro was vastly, mind bendingly superior to the 60" LG chassis; as are the 600Hz Panny Vieras. Please!
Edited by derestrictor on Wednesday 2nd December 09:25
As for superiority issue - I don't contest the Kuro/Pannys are better. I bet it annoys you to watch the LGs compared to the Kuros, as you're an expert on this sort of thing and so your eyes will pick up every little flaw. If you're around TVs all day, it's probably much easier to pick up on the differences.
All I'm saying is that, for us (and I suspect many others), the Kuro wouldn't have been worth the extra money. A Kuro and an LG were set up side-by-side in one of the shops we visited. Using the same source material, my Dad's instant reaction was "Why is that one nearly three times the price?".
Wrt, it's the fact that it will not have been correctly set up which resulted in your conslusion. We see this day in, day out.
I was watching the scarcely believable 'Bangkok Dangerous' (what an abysmal title) with serial car nutter Nick Cage on the Pioneer last night; although an unusually interlaced production, characterised by massive grain, the Gandalfian settings (which would have looked hugely unimpressive in Shed World) served to ameliorate things superbly and deliver an ultimately perty dang spiffing end result.
The amount of drilling into menus to get the cinema settings just right was (and ito fine tweaking, continues to feel at times like) a bit of a rigmorale but when you get there...
The thing is, you can achieve a near parity effect with suitably fettled Viera G10/15/V10/Z1 - you cannot, absolutely and emphatically - with any chassis from the penninsula.
The difference is then massive.
Again, quoting from the biblical, cinematic script (Wall St) and Lou Manheim, "good things, sometimes, take time..."
I was watching the scarcely believable 'Bangkok Dangerous' (what an abysmal title) with serial car nutter Nick Cage on the Pioneer last night; although an unusually interlaced production, characterised by massive grain, the Gandalfian settings (which would have looked hugely unimpressive in Shed World) served to ameliorate things superbly and deliver an ultimately perty dang spiffing end result.
The amount of drilling into menus to get the cinema settings just right was (and ito fine tweaking, continues to feel at times like) a bit of a rigmorale but when you get there...
The thing is, you can achieve a near parity effect with suitably fettled Viera G10/15/V10/Z1 - you cannot, absolutely and emphatically - with any chassis from the penninsula.
The difference is then massive.
Again, quoting from the biblical, cinematic script (Wall St) and Lou Manheim, "good things, sometimes, take time..."
That's the problem though. 99% of people will never realise what they're missing as they have no intention of having it expertly calibrated. I suspect 99% of people also think all of the image processing features on the TV are a good thing. Therefore, it would be a waste of time for most people to buy the Pioneer over the LG as they're not going to be able to get the extra out of it.
When we got the LG, I just went through the image calibration wizard and then thought "Wow! That looks good". Whenever I stick a DVD on, I just bung it into THX Cinema mode and think "Ooooh, pretty!" I'm quite happy with our LG and honestly cannot see any flaws (that's not to say they aren't there). But that's because I'm a layperson and you're a...well, whatever the TV equivalent of an audiophile is!
I imagine if somebody like you or Plotters came over to our house, calibrated the TV and set up our room perfectly, then I'd notice the difference. However, I suspect that as it stands at the moment, the placement of our windows and lighting are the limiting factors to picture quality, rather than the set itself.
PS: Were I watching 'Bangkok Dangerous", then screen quality issues would be the least of my worries...
When we got the LG, I just went through the image calibration wizard and then thought "Wow! That looks good". Whenever I stick a DVD on, I just bung it into THX Cinema mode and think "Ooooh, pretty!" I'm quite happy with our LG and honestly cannot see any flaws (that's not to say they aren't there). But that's because I'm a layperson and you're a...well, whatever the TV equivalent of an audiophile is!
I imagine if somebody like you or Plotters came over to our house, calibrated the TV and set up our room perfectly, then I'd notice the difference. However, I suspect that as it stands at the moment, the placement of our windows and lighting are the limiting factors to picture quality, rather than the set itself.
PS: Were I watching 'Bangkok Dangerous", then screen quality issues would be the least of my worries...
Edited by wiffmaster on Wednesday 2nd December 11:27
derestrictor said:
It is my calling to save souls from audiovisual mediocrity.
Top effort too and I think appreciated by most on PH. I'm sure many would find it hard to justify a full system setup by an engineer (circa £200); would you be able to recommend a setup method by which PH users could get the most from the TV or projector they have and make their own adjustments to the factory settings ??. Possibly there's a test card type setup disc available ~ not exactly THX calibration I know but should be an improvement on the " pyrotechnics " used by some to give the WOW impression in shop ( shed ). Edited by CRACKIE on Wednesday 2nd December 15:29
allgonepetetong said:
Looks just the job ~ thanks.Edited by CRACKIE on Wednesday 2nd December 17:20
CRACKIE said:
allgonepetetong said:
Looks just the job ~ thanks.Edited by CRACKIE on Wednesday 2nd December 17:20
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=94...
and create your own DVD. Try that before spending your hard earned.
made a huge difference to my panny V10
CRACKIE said:
derestrictor said:
It is my calling to save souls from audiovisual mediocrity.
Top effort too and I think appreciated by most on PH. I'm sure many would find it hard to justify a full system setup by an engineer (circa £200); would you be able to recommend a setup method by which PH users could get the most from the TV or projector they have and make their own adjustments to the factory settings ??. Possibly there's a test card type setup disc available ~ not exactly THX calibration I know but should be an improvement on the " pyrotechnics " used by some to give the WOW impression in shop ( shed ). Social etiquette and audiovisual deliverance.
For example, I have been in and out of London several times since hiring him and not once - not once - have I been stopped, questioned or even looked at funny.
He's that good.
ONWARD!
derestrictor said:
He will calibrate your set to within an inch of its capability and probably learn you some culture whilst he's at it.
You.... you..... you think HE can learn ME culture...... One of these days you pair really ought to pop over.
Oh and, OP, 60" rocks... but then thanks to Der and Pottyboy it's a Kuro
Edited by RedLeicester on Thursday 3rd December 15:33
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