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I picked up my 32" samsung ue326000 on sat morning its for the bedroom so wasnt worried about going too big, its up on the wall and all the wires hidden.
I think its fantastic the quality is great, and only sticks out minimal amounts
When the 50" come down in price thats whats going in the living room to replace the 42" plasma
Why do everyone hate them so much ?
I think its fantastic the quality is great, and only sticks out minimal amounts
When the 50" come down in price thats whats going in the living room to replace the 42" plasma
Why do everyone hate them so much ?
Edited by B16JUS on Monday 9th November 05:33
What, knock samsung, or LCD tvs? Don't think there are any affordable OLED 32" screens at the moment .....
We went from a plasma (having two fail in a row) to an LCD, and whilst I prefer the resolution of the LCD (full 1080p, the plasma was only 720p), the plasma has always given a much better/"punchier" picture.
We went from a plasma (having two fail in a row) to an LCD, and whilst I prefer the resolution of the LCD (full 1080p, the plasma was only 720p), the plasma has always given a much better/"punchier" picture.
I've got a 55" 7 Series LED backlit LCD and still think it's the mutt's nuts.
Had many positive comments from those who simply said it has an amazing picture and from those in the know who admited that it has an amazing picture despite their preconceptions of what a Samsung would be like.
Anyway - I'm happy, as I'm sure you will be, and that's all that really matters.
Had many positive comments from those who simply said it has an amazing picture and from those in the know who admited that it has an amazing picture despite their preconceptions of what a Samsung would be like.
Anyway - I'm happy, as I'm sure you will be, and that's all that really matters.
ukwill said:
bodhi said:
I'm guessing most people bash them because they aren't LED TV's?
so they don't have LEDs in the panel then? 
When Loewe and B&O start putting edge-lit LCD panels into their products, that'll signify the technology has matured to a point where it delivers something better than they manage with the standard CCT's, but far superior panel driving and picture processing electronics.
PJ S said:
ukwill said:
bodhi said:
I'm guessing most people bash them because they aren't LED TV's?
so they don't have LEDs in the panel then? When Loewe and B&O start putting edge-lit LCD panels into their products, that'll signify the technology has matured to a point where it delivers something better than they manage with the standard CCT's, but far superior panel driving and picture processing electronics.
No, LCD screens have a cold cathode tube and a diffuser behind the LCD panel, what we know as an LED TV uses LED's instead of the cathode tube, Samsung have them around the edge where as Sharp have them behind. Sharp actually do a set with an RGB LED backlight its a little costly though.
People do bash these tv's because they use LED in their description but only use the LED as a lightsource and not for producing the picture. Either way they look pretty good picture wise and really are the dogs danglys in terms of thickness
Do B&O still exist??? The last i saw of them they were using philips technology for their plasmas and people were paying the earth for a nice cabinet with a crappy plasma in it, do they use bose for sound too? :P
People do bash these tv's because they use LED in their description but only use the LED as a lightsource and not for producing the picture. Either way they look pretty good picture wise and really are the dogs danglys in terms of thickness
Do B&O still exist??? The last i saw of them they were using philips technology for their plasmas and people were paying the earth for a nice cabinet with a crappy plasma in it, do they use bose for sound too? :P
PJ S said:
When Loewe and B&O start putting edge-lit LCD panels into their products, that'll signify the technology has matured to a point where it delivers something better than they manage with the standard CCT's, but far superior panel driving and picture processing electronics.
Press launched recently and hitting stores next week http://www.bang-olufsen.com/beovision10I've seen one, and I know everyone has their own opinions on B&O but I really wouldn't pass comment until you've seen (and more importantly heard) one of these in action
B+O TV's? The last one I saw was simply a Panasonic PW6 with a frame round it. Yours for a mere 7 grand (At the time, a PW6 was about 3k with the boards in).
That said, the B+O remotte was a thing of beauty, and if somone came to rob you, it was heavy enough to be a very effective cosh.
I have no idea if they are making their own kit again on the vision front, but I severely doubt it...
That said, the B+O remotte was a thing of beauty, and if somone came to rob you, it was heavy enough to be a very effective cosh.
I have no idea if they are making their own kit again on the vision front, but I severely doubt it...
ukwill said:
B16JUS said:
I have bose accoustimass 5 cube speakers in the living room, i have the samsung led tv int he bedroom and i have the B&O beocom telephone
that means ive wasted a lot of money of rubbish equipment lol
As long as you are happy with it all - thats what really matters!that means ive wasted a lot of money of rubbish equipment lol
Graham E said:
B+O TV's? The last one I saw was simply a Panasonic PW6 with a frame round it. Yours for a mere 7 grand (At the time, a PW6 was about 3k with the boards in).
That said, the B+O remotte was a thing of beauty, and if somone came to rob you, it was heavy enough to be a very effective cosh.
I have no idea if they are making their own kit again on the vision front, but I severely doubt it...
Here we go again...That said, the B+O remotte was a thing of beauty, and if somone came to rob you, it was heavy enough to be a very effective cosh.
I have no idea if they are making their own kit again on the vision front, but I severely doubt it...
I guess you haven't seen it, yet you're having a pop already.
Did the PW6 panel at 3k include a tuner? a surround processor? was it individually calibrated at the factory? did the cost include delivery, setup and handover with most likely a 24 hour mobile number for the guy that installed it? Did it include everything required to integrate seamlessly with a CD player in a seperate room, and distribute video all round your house? NO! sounds like it was just a panel then, which is hugely different to the B&O offering.
Yes, the panel comes from the same production line, but so what? there is so much more that goes into a B&O TV. You probably don't want to and will never "get it". The product doesn't suit you and your lifestyle. Doesn't mean it's bad or wrong though.
There are loads of cars that I would never buy, but I wouldn't knock the people who do. Some buy a kit car because they like hands on and tweaking. Others will spend much more money on a finished package with customer support and backup, which in some areas might not perform as well as the kit car. Both suit different people and different budgets. Neither is right or wrong, and to my mind neither is better, they just suit different people.
Like I said though. You'd have to be a proper nobber to disregard any product in any market segment and from any manufacturer, without seeing it in person and getting hands on with it first.
I'm sure you would never do that though, would you?
I installed a bose multi rooom several years ago as the client bought a house that had a B&O system already installed, it did the lights and everything, looked fantastic until i started the demo work on it only to find it had been installed by numpties, these numpties where the proper 'cant do nothing wrong' B&O installers. The living room speakers all needed a mains feed so they installed a spur off a spur off a spur off a spur run behind the skirting board using LIGHTING cable, the re fit of the skirting board was terrible you could see every chase they had made. I found a data cable running diagonally across a bedroom floor underneath the carpet and then worst of all i found a live mains cable running from a 13Afused spur (again that was supplied by lighting cable) running outside up the wall behind the drain pipe with a chock block connector on it taped up!!!!
I wished those particular installers left their mobile number as i would have had something to say to them.
Im not nocking all B&O installers obviously, but like everyware there is always someone who dosent know what the hell they are doing.
I wished those particular installers left their mobile number as i would have had something to say to them.
Im not nocking all B&O installers obviously, but like everyware there is always someone who dosent know what the hell they are doing.
lol. Talksence, I saw it at a retailer that I was selling to. One of the lads showed me it, and said that they could change the covering panel on it, and it still said Panasonic underneath - hence "just a PW6". And yes, the "with the boards in it" omment was meant to cover a tuner board, probably 2 scarts and a component (1 x scart was free at the time as i recall).
Anyways, sounds like I've offended you in some way - thats a pity, it's only an opinion over tellies after all.
Anyways, sounds like I've offended you in some way - thats a pity, it's only an opinion over tellies after all.
So long as you remember B&O, Bose etc are primarily lifestyle products, it's fine. When you begin to try and justify the price based on the capability of the products and not the exclusivity, you will start to run into trouble.
True fact: In the B&O board room, each name plaque holder on the desk has written on the back of it "We are in the business of massaging egos"...
True fact: In the B&O board room, each name plaque holder on the desk has written on the back of it "We are in the business of massaging egos"...
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