Best place to buy a plasma?
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Hi All,
I'm soon to be buyig a new TV and after much research have settled on a Panny TH46PZ80B. The cheapest places seem to be Laskys and PRC Direct at about £899 with free delivery.
Does anyone know of any other places I should look, or any good/bad experiences with these two suppliers?
I'm soon to be buyig a new TV and after much research have settled on a Panny TH46PZ80B. The cheapest places seem to be Laskys and PRC Direct at about £899 with free delivery.
Does anyone know of any other places I should look, or any good/bad experiences with these two suppliers?
Alex said:
Plotloss said:
How far are you going to be sat from it?
The HD Ready G10 will probably offer everything the PZ80 does other than the 1080p compliance, the benefit of which you wont see in most viewing scenarios.
I don't agree. If you don't get a full 1080p now, you'll regret it later.The HD Ready G10 will probably offer everything the PZ80 does other than the 1080p compliance, the benefit of which you wont see in most viewing scenarios.
If you're outside the range of visual accuity then 1080p isnt going to make the slightest bit of difference now or in the future.
1080p is a projection resolution, not a television resolution. Marketing genius in essence.
But this one goes to 11.
Would YOU buy a 780p display? I wouldn't.
I play blu-rays (1080p) and Sky HD (1080i). I don't want those signals downscaled to 780i/p.
Secondly, you CAN tell the difference. Even if you can't "see" the pixels, you are aware of a crisper picture.
To the OP: get full HD (1080p), you WILL regret it if you don't.
I play blu-rays (1080p) and Sky HD (1080i). I don't want those signals downscaled to 780i/p.
Secondly, you CAN tell the difference. Even if you can't "see" the pixels, you are aware of a crisper picture.
To the OP: get full HD (1080p), you WILL regret it if you don't.
Alex said:
Would YOU buy a 780p display? I wouldn't.
I play blu-rays (1080p) and Sky HD (1080i). I don't want those signals downscaled to 780i/p.
Secondly, you CAN tell the difference. Even if you can't "see" the pixels, you are aware of a crisper picture.
To the OP: get full HD (1080p), you WILL regret it if you don't.
In most situation I would choose a 720p panel in preference to 1080 if both existed.I play blu-rays (1080p) and Sky HD (1080i). I don't want those signals downscaled to 780i/p.
Secondly, you CAN tell the difference. Even if you can't "see" the pixels, you are aware of a crisper picture.
To the OP: get full HD (1080p), you WILL regret it if you don't.
The 720 screen often has better contrast etc, will handle SD better, and will be not be visably worse than a 1080 screen under most normal viewing conditions. The exception being if you have a big screen and sit really stupidly close to it.
As stated above it is a resolution that is only of benefit on huge projectors, and in respect to normal home viewing is all marketing hype.
I reckon most people who "need" 1080 in a living room, have at least 5 blades on their razor for that closer shave ;-)
Alex said:
Would YOU buy a 780p display? I wouldn't.
I play blu-rays (1080p) and Sky HD (1080i). I don't want those signals downscaled to 780i/p.
Secondly, you CAN tell the difference. Even if you can't "see" the pixels, you are aware of a crisper picture.
To the OP: get full HD (1080p), you WILL regret it if you don't.
Alex, please dont get caught in the hype over 1080p yes it makes an infinetessimal difference IMOI play blu-rays (1080p) and Sky HD (1080i). I don't want those signals downscaled to 780i/p.
Secondly, you CAN tell the difference. Even if you can't "see" the pixels, you are aware of a crisper picture.
To the OP: get full HD (1080p), you WILL regret it if you don't.
but other factors have far greater influence. motion handling is more visible
colour fidelity/balance is more noticable and of course black level is THE most crucial
component to good picture quality.
I've been selling TVs for over 15 years now and trust me 1080p is 99% hype
OH! BTW in my system at home in which ive invested over £15,000
I have a 2 year old 1366x768 plasma which i've never seen bettered by 99% of 1080p sets
and never seen bettered by ANY LCD made!!
What is it? a Pioneer PDP507XD
Regards Gandalf.....................
the Panasonic TX-P50G10 is most definatley a 1080p set
Edited by tdm34ds on Tuesday 21st April 15:37
Alex said:
Would YOU buy a 780p display? I wouldn't.
I play blu-rays (1080p) and Sky HD (1080i). I don't want those signals downscaled to 780i/p.
Secondly, you CAN tell the difference. Even if you can't "see" the pixels, you are aware of a crisper picture.
To the OP: get full HD (1080p), you WILL regret it if you don't.
1: It's 720p, not 780p, and that's a signal resolution standard, not a display standard. In other words, with the exception of the 37" Pannny plasma, and 32" LG one, all HD Ready TVs are 768 pixels tall, so the signal is interpolated to fit the physical number of pixels.I play blu-rays (1080p) and Sky HD (1080i). I don't want those signals downscaled to 780i/p.
Secondly, you CAN tell the difference. Even if you can't "see" the pixels, you are aware of a crisper picture.
To the OP: get full HD (1080p), you WILL regret it if you don't.
2. Setting your Sky box to 1080i is wrong on a number of accounts, but let's deal with the resolution chosen to make your point - 1080i is an interlaced signal (as is current broadcast SD) and once deinterlaced, even with the best form of deinterlacing, you're looking at a resolution of low 800's. So, would you rather upscale 800 odd to make 1080 or downscale to fit 768?
2.1 The issue with setting the Sky/Virgin box to a static 1080i resolution, is that HD material (and not that that's been upscaled SD before transmitting) for broadcast falls into two camps - 720p and 1080i. 720p is the preferred and most suitable format for sports and fast paced action movies/TV/etc, whereas the slight improvement in detail 1080i can provide for, is best left for your period dramas, nature documentaries, etc.
So, given the cost of the box to Sky/Virgin, do you honestly think the software encoder within it, is actually worthy?
720p is the BEST format for setting its output to.
3. How can you tell the difference if you can't see the pixels? That's oxymoronic, since it's being able to see the extra pixels, that provides the additional information that your brain perceives as greater definition. But....and this is the kicker.......it's only at closer distances. The further you stand away from the display, the more those extra pixles meld into a larger single pixel, hence the loss of definition.
Look at it this way - you're out taking pictures or looking at something in the distance, how much definition does it have? Zoom in with the camera or binoculars, and suddenly you see more "information" - why is that? Simply, the zooming function has effectively brought you closer to the object being viewed, just as if you were stood physically closer to it, without the camera/binoculars.
This is no different from sitting 6ft or 10ft from the same size of screen - it's just a function of how your eyes work, and there's no getting away from it.
4. Why would the OP regret something he can't see? There's a world of documented evidence that Plotloss hints at. Please spend some time reading it via links on other threads here, or good old Google.
king Panasonic.
PJ S said:
1: It's 720p, not 780p
Typo/I'm very forgetful in my old age...PJ S said:
2. Setting your Sky box to 1080i is wrong on a number of accounts, but let's deal with the resolution chosen to make your point - 1080i is an interlaced signal (as is current broadcast SD) and once deinterlaced, even with the best form of deinterlacing, you're looking at a resolution of low 800's. So, would you rather upscale 800 odd to make 1080 or downscale to fit 768?
Eh? 1080i is indeed interlaced, but it has 1080 lines however it is deinterlaced. I'd rather watch that on a native 1080 line screen than have it downscaled to 768 lines. In any case, my AV amp can convert 1080i to 1080p...PJ S said:
2.1 The issue with setting the Sky/Virgin box to a static 1080i resolution, is that HD material (and not that that's been upscaled SD before transmitting) for broadcast falls into two camps - 720p and 1080i. 720p is the preferred and most suitable format for sports and fast paced action movies/TV/etc, whereas the slight improvement in detail 1080i can provide for, is best left for your period dramas, nature documentaries, etc.
So, given the cost of the box to Sky/Virgin, do you honestly think the software encoder within it, is actually worthy?
720p is the BEST format for setting its output to.
That's all subjective. I happen to disagree. So, given the cost of the box to Sky/Virgin, do you honestly think the software encoder within it, is actually worthy?
720p is the BEST format for setting its output to.
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