Cheap but good speaker wire choice?

Cheap but good speaker wire choice?

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amir_j

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3,579 posts

207 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Need 30m of cable to run between a KingRex T20 amp to Tannoy Mercury F1 speakers as bedroom setup. Im not sold on the whole amazing difference lark so just want some decent cheap stuff.

Had a look at Richer Sounds and they have Gale entry for 99p a metre, The speakers were 85 quid so buying 30 quid of cable seems a bit silly. Any views?

WZC1

210 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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You get what you pay for. Signal loss will be more apparent over a longer distance so I would suggest it is £30 well spent. You could try 2 core electrical cable over the same run if you can find that cheaper but I would stick with the Gale cable.

amir_j

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3,579 posts

207 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Been reading up and going to go with Cat 5 for the same 0.99 a metre as per AV forums and TNt http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=19868...

P700DEE

1,137 posts

236 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Thick stranded cable can give a thick sound. I used 5amp solid core mains wire (10m) runs before spending out on Kimber 8TC. Anti-cables from the States are quite popular and sound good although they can be a bit harsh (feature of solid core cables) To avoid the cost now the £ has plummeted try Maplin solid core transformer wire. Sold by weight rather than length and you will need to scrape off the insulating polyimide coating at the ends. Quad did a demo at the 2007 Hi-Fi show using a DIY store outdoor wire (Orange). Of all the cables in a system I have found speaker cables make the least difference.

JustinP1

13,330 posts

236 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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For the type of speakers you have anything decent will perform much of a muchness.

99p a metre isn't too bad though - the problem is you want 30m of it when the average length is about 3m each side!

cjs

10,884 posts

257 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Just get yourself some 2 core flex form an electrical wholesaler. You can get 100m for £30.

bsdnazz

762 posts

259 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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When I was wiring up our 5.1 speakers I went to Richer Sounds and got lots of the 'best cheap speaker cable'. Looking at their WWW site now I guess I have the Gale Symphony 100 cable which they're listing at 69ppm. I sure I paid 50ppm a couple of years ago.

Price of copper has gone up!

Titanium lover

92 posts

188 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Thats one big bedroom !

Dave 500

6,547 posts

248 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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cjs said:
Just get yourself some 2 core flex form an electrical wholesaler. You can get 100m for £30.
+2 2.5mm mains job done.



Edited by Dave 500 on Friday 27th February 09:59

old No 1

362 posts

244 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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I ve just done a comparison on my Tannoy DC4 T floorstanders ....
2 core flex £5 worth V TCI super boa constrictor thingies at £300 a pair (silver plated solid core bi wire)

erm couldnt tell much difference? Although the solid core ones 'bend' into shape round the hearth and the flex didnt so that was a plus :-)

JulianHJ

8,785 posts

268 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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I use a couple of runs of Cat5e to each speaker - works a treat!

R32DEV

1,582 posts

201 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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Dave 500 said:
cjs said:
Just get yourself some 2 core flex form an electrical wholesaler. You can get 100m for £30.
+2 2.5mm mains job done.



Edited by Dave 500 on Friday 27th February 09:59
Is this really a good solution. Having the builder put speaker cabling into the walls, during first fix and want to have rear speakers, which will be about 30 feet away from system high up on A beams. I was going to order clear sheath 2x2.5mm speaker cable at GBP 47 for 100 meters from Cable Universe as recommended here, but just saw these comments. Is the resistance etc okay, I do not know yet which stystem I will be putting into this room, but some form of home cinema and it needs to be good quality for music playback.

Simon Says

19,076 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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JulianHJ said:
I use a couple of runs of Cat5e to each speaker - works a treat!
Cat 6 for me with 2 twisted pairs over about 25ft x2 use the solid wire Cat 6 stuff though not the stranded stuff,well pleased thumbup not my idea someone on here recommended it beer

Plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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R32DEV said:
Dave 500 said:
cjs said:
Just get yourself some 2 core flex form an electrical wholesaler. You can get 100m for £30.
+2 2.5mm mains job done.



Edited by Dave 500 on Friday 27th February 09:59
Is this really a good solution. Having the builder put speaker cabling into the walls, during first fix and want to have rear speakers, which will be about 30 feet away from system high up on A beams. I was going to order clear sheath 2x2.5mm speaker cable at GBP 47 for 100 meters from Cable Universe as recommended here, but just saw these comments. Is the resistance etc okay, I do not know yet which stystem I will be putting into this room, but some form of home cinema and it needs to be good quality for music playback.
I'd not risk it personally.

Whilst it is a perrenial web discussion, this use of twin and earth, I can't think of a single AV dealer that would advocate it.

Speaker wire is cheap, like the budgie.

darreni

3,945 posts

276 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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Back in my teens, i had a seperates system connected to a set of mission speaker with 6mm twin & earth - the solid core type used for wiring in cookers etc. Sounded great, but a bd to hide the cable runs.

QED do some cheap trade type stuff, between 50p - a quid p.m.
My local dealer says they use it all the time for commercial installs, comes in 2 core & 4 core & i'm sure he told me the sleeving was fire resistant.
The sleeving is a matt pink in colour, if it helps anyone inentify it.

I have a KEF Kit 540 system in the lounge & it sounds awesome. (not that i am suggesting the cable is the reason for this, but it certainly dosent do any harm).

R32DEV

1,582 posts

201 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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Plotloss said:
R32DEV said:
Dave 500 said:
cjs said:
Just get yourself some 2 core flex form an electrical wholesaler. You can get 100m for £30.
+2 2.5mm mains job done.



Edited by Dave 500 on Friday 27th February 09:59
Is this really a good solution. Having the builder put speaker cabling into the walls, during first fix and want to have rear speakers, which will be about 30 feet away from system high up on A beams. I was going to order clear sheath 2x2.5mm speaker cable at GBP 47 for 100 meters from Cable Universe as recommended here, but just saw these comments. Is the resistance etc okay, I do not know yet which stystem I will be putting into this room, but some form of home cinema and it needs to be good quality for music playback.
I'd not risk it personally.

Whilst it is a perrenial web discussion, this use of twin and earth, I can't think of a single AV dealer that would advocate it.

Speaker wire is cheap, like the budgie.
Thanks Plotloss, is what I was going to order: clear sheath 2x2.5mm speaker cable at GBP 47 for 100 meters from Cable Universe a good option?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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Wire guage depends on run length, whats your longest run?

R32DEV

1,582 posts

201 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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about 30 ft

Plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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Then you're good to go.

R32DEV

1,582 posts

201 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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Plotloss said:
Then you're good to go.
thanks for your help and advice.