TV wall mount for large screens - vertical force spreading

[Mars]

I have a 65" professional monitor which is heavy. Its case is steel and takes two people to lift it - it even comes with two handles on each end to facilitate moving it around. It came out of an office and was mounted on folded steel floor stands so it can be wheeled around. The stand is even heavier than the screen itself.

I want to wall mount it. The wall is a conventional concrete block construction (inner), cavity and brick (outer).

All the large TV brackets seem to spread the weight horizontally but there isn't much vertical distance from the top and bottom wall fixings. I do need the screen mounted at a small angle to face into the room.

Before I start cutting-up the floor stand and welding it to suit my requirements, does anyone have any recommendations please?

[JoshSm]

Mount some vertical rails to the wall, fix the mount to the rails, pack out the top ones with washers to give the angle?

Doesn't need anything clever as far as I can see?

[Mars]

Yeah, makes sense and aligns with how I was going to go about making my own bracket.

I kind of wanted to see how a ready-made product addressed this and then I would decide whether to buy one or make one as described.

Thanks,

[megaphone]

So you want to use a flat wall bracket and angle it down a bit? Just use a flat/tilt bracket. Look for a large format bracket, the wall plate will be bigger. 60"-100"

Are you sure the inner wall is concrete block? It may be built with 'thermolite' blocks which are not as easy to fix into as they crumble. Use a drill but turn the hammer off for a tighter hole.

[Mars]

Sorry, I wasn't clear. The screen is going into the corner of what used to be my lounge, which is now my band's rehearsal studio (how can you tell I live alone?), so I want it angled a little to face into the room. This means one end will be further from the wall than the other, creating a greater downward force/pull. Hence why I wanted to spread the weight vertically against the wall.

The wall is definitely built from conventional concrete blocks - the heavy type - rather than the lightweight insulated type. The screen is so heavy I wouldn't be comfortable wall-mounting on anything less than "proper" concrete blocks.

I wish I could remember what the screen is but it's currently wrapped in that cling-film stuff for removals and I don't fancy uncovering it until I'm ready to use it. I closed an office before Christmas and couldn't find enough interested parties for everything, including approx 2 dozen of these screens which I've now given to my friends and colleagues. I've only one left. They're called professional monitors and are used for digital signage. The ones we removed are approx 3-5 years old but they're really decent - 4K output. The best thing for me is that they don't have a TV tuner in them so I can legitimately ignore the TV Licencing threats.

I have a load of conventionally-sized computer monitors too which are scattered around the rehearsal space. We use them as teleprompters for lyrics, and to show the settings on the XR18 mixer.

It's all controlled from here:


And then there are repeaters around the room:




And currently I'm using an old 40" TV in the corner where I want the 65" screen to go:

[Mars]

And this is the stand that's now lurking unwanted in my garage

[megaphone]

So you need an articulated bracket, full motion bracket. Heavy duty brackets with double arms are available.

eg. https://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/psgl0146/tv-bra...

Use coach screws or even expansion bolts. Or if you really want to go belt and braces chemical anchors.

[Mr Pointy]

Unicol (that's who made the stand you have) also make wall mounts:

https://unicol.com/products/wall-arm

If you use one of the bigger ones such as this it will take 70kg & the larger wallplate spreads the load over a bigger area.

https://unicol.com/products/wall-arm/pla2x1-33-70-...

[rodericb]

Looks like a challenging requirement. Wall mounts where you can change the angle are usually for lighter loads. Heaver stuff sits flat. It's like you need four of something like the Unicol compact swivelling mounts to handle the load (even then it's risky) and to give the ability to angle the screen out from the wall a bit: https://unicol.com/products/wall-arm/ssv-15-32-com...

Presuming you've got VESA mounts at least, which give you at least four attachment points on the screen.

[The Gauge]

Mr Pointy said:

Unicol (that's who made the stand you have) also make wall mounts:

Reminds me of being at school in the 70's & 80's when we had a dedicated 'TV room' and the teacher would wheel in a CRT TV on a trolley. Many years later I worked selling office furniture and one of our suppliers was Unicol who made those same trolleys..

[The Gauge]

I've recently bought my lad a 75" TV for his bedroom and I bought this wall bracket for it. It's extremely robust and spreads the load vertically as well as horizontally. Whilst the TV can fit flat to the wall, it can also pull out, tilt, and swivel left/right.

I bought it from Costco, but im sure they available elsewhere.

[Mr Pointy]

The Gauge said:

Mr Pointy said:

Unicol (that's who made the stand you have) also make wall mounts:

Reminds me of being at school in the 70's & 80's when we had a dedicated 'TV room' and the teacher would wheel in a CRT TV on a trolley. Many years later I worked selling office furniture and one of our suppliers was Unicol who made those same trolleys...

They are still going - they make robust stuff which costs a bit more than Amazon domestic grade but will last in a commercial environment. It's actually easier these days as a 65" LED screen weighs nothing compared to the old CRTs.

[Mars]

Thanks all.

None of the commercial products spread the load vertically enough for the weight of this thing. I don't need a bracket that can be moved once installed but because I need one end further from the wall than the other, it does need a good 75cm vertical plate against the wall. Note, it's not the strength of the mounting bracket I worry about but the impact on the wall. I just want to be safe.

I've decided to weld my own up by cutting up the rolling stand in the garage. The garage is currently host to a project car but that should be gone in the next month or so, so the TV mount is next.

[rodericb]

If you can weld one up yourself that's the best option. I was going to suggest using that existing stand and putting that cupboard on the base but then I remembered you wanted to angle the screen.

[Red 5]

DIY static?
Buy some 4x2 and thick ply. Construct the angle you need, and bolt it to the wall.
You can then dictate the load bearing area and fit your own bearing plate.
Then screw a normal flat wall bracket to that. perhaps a Sanus LL11
That’ll take many times the monitor weight and be cheap.

Or….
Buy a Future Automation PS articulated bracket.
They are designed do this.
I’ve mounted 90kg screens, which sit 500mm from the wall, rotated as required and don’t sag/droop at all.
When you do want to move the screen out of the way, it’ll glide as if weightless with minimal effort from two fingers.

[Mars]

Red 5 said:

DIY static?
Buy some 4x2 and thick ply. Construct the angle you need, and bolt it to the wall.
You can then dictate the load bearing area and fit your own bearing plate.
Then screw a normal flat wall bracket to that. perhaps a Sanus LL11
That ll take many times the monitor weight and be cheap.

Or .
Buy a Future Automation PS articulated bracket.
They are designed do this.
I ve mounted 90kg screens, which sit 500mm from the wall, rotated as required and don t sag/droop at all.
When you do want to move the screen out of the way, it ll glide as if weightless with minimal effort from two fingers.

Wow, those Future Automation ones are exactly what I was thinking of - they have a decent wall plate. Absolutely spot-on..!!

Pricey though... but I shall have a close look at these. Thanks.

[Red 5]

Mars said:

Wow, those Future Automation ones are exactly what I was thinking of - they have a decent wall plate. Absolutely spot-on..!!

Pricey though... but I shall have a close look at these. Thanks.

You’re welcome!
They are very well engineered products, and admittedly the price does reflect that.
It’’s the fixings right at the top that are doing most of the work. You do not want a cement line where those top fixings are, but there is a degree of adjustment in the bracket to allow for this.

[RizzoTheRat]

Mars said:

And this is the stand that's now lurking unwanted in my garage

For a cheap option, could you remove the base from that stand, and bolt the upright to the wall? You'd need to space it out a little to get the angle but you could have some kind of small foot on the base the take the weight so the bolts/screws are only dealing with the much smaller force pulling away from the wall.

[v8notbrave]

Thinking outside the box a 65 telly is really light now due to the manufacturing race to the bottom, would a new unit be easier??? That weight I'd be very nervous and would want to keep some form of stand under it

[Mars]

RizzoTheRat said:

For a cheap option, could you remove the base from that stand, and bolt the upright to the wall? You'd need to space it out a little to get the angle but you could have some kind of small foot on the base the take the weight so the bolts/screws are only dealing with the much smaller force pulling away from the wall.

It would be a little unsightly. I think I can do better once I have access to my garage again.

v8notbrave said:

Thinking outside the box a 65 telly is really light now due to the manufacturing race to the bottom, would a new unit be easier??? That weight I'd be very nervous and would want to keep some form of stand under it

This is the sensible answer of course, and returns me back to making my own with the materials on hand.