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Moving house and need 2x TVs. 75” in the living room and either 85/86 or a 98 in the kitchen. Room is 8.5x6.5m but is open plan kitchen, with a huge island which we intend to use as a dining table and then into a living space. So Tv will be viewed from a range of as close as 2.5/3m right Upto 7m away if you are in the kitchen. Undecided on the size here as there’s more choice in the slightly smaller size (but still a big Tv)and a bit cheaper too.
Struggling to understand the quality differences in TVs and there is just so many. Went into our local sonic who have a massive array to see but they are all playing special stuff to show them in the best light. With lcd oled oned etc, it’s a minefield. Is it a case of diminishing returns. There’s a huge array of costs. Looked at tcl which look equally as good to my eye as the Samsungs etc but only 2 year warranty rather than 5 with the bigger brands. Tv is mostly used to watch normal Tv programmes, Moto gp and the odd movie. Will probably use the living room more for movies.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Struggling to understand the quality differences in TVs and there is just so many. Went into our local sonic who have a massive array to see but they are all playing special stuff to show them in the best light. With lcd oled oned etc, it’s a minefield. Is it a case of diminishing returns. There’s a huge array of costs. Looked at tcl which look equally as good to my eye as the Samsungs etc but only 2 year warranty rather than 5 with the bigger brands. Tv is mostly used to watch normal Tv programmes, Moto gp and the odd movie. Will probably use the living room more for movies.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Have a look on avforums for great TV advice.
The TV's on display in the shops are often set to a specific mode to make them look bright in the shop lighting and in no way reflect how they might look in your home.
Usually when I buy a new TV a research it on avforums and buy from either John Lewis or Richer sounds, although recently I bought one direct from Panasonic.
The TV's on display in the shops are often set to a specific mode to make them look bright in the shop lighting and in no way reflect how they might look in your home.
Usually when I buy a new TV a research it on avforums and buy from either John Lewis or Richer sounds, although recently I bought one direct from Panasonic.
Forget how many apps it can run and which sort TV operating system it's running; Android, Google, Tizen or whatever. That's the TV equivalent of cup holders and reversing cameras in a new car. Some of it is useful. Other things are gimmicks.
Your TV fundamentals are outright brightness, viewing angle versus black level, whether or not the screen can dim, and whether that dimming is the whole screen, or progressively smaller zones, or dimming by pixel (OLED does this). Then there's screen refresh rate (50~60Hz basic, or better at 100~120Hz), and whether the panel is pseudo 8-bit, true 8-bit, pseudo 10-bit, or true 10-bit.
This is all foundation stuff that can't be faked, but that won't stop TV manufacturers trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Motion interpolation rate is not the same as panel refresh rate. The image processing can have two goes (100Hz) or 4 goes (200Hz) at best guessing pixel movements for scaling and shading, but if the image is then dumped on a panel that only refreshes every 1/50th of a second then nothing done in software will change that.
Similarly, a panel that can only dim the entire screen isn't going to magically improve because the image processing software tries to manipulate portions of the digital image to create a pseudo dimming effect. It's like Photoshopping each frame, only less subtle.
What we can pull from Al this is that cheap big TVs are poor value. The LEDs don't get bright enough, so have to be run flat out a lot of the time. That shortens the panel life. It also makes for a dull and lackluster picture, and one that struggles against ambient light. Budget sets from Samsung and LG are prone to early failure because of this cost-cutting.
Tgese cheap tellies have 50/60Hz native panels, very limited dimming (if at all), and poor motion processing. Steer clear of the cheapest of anything. Its rarely a bargain.
Go read some reviews at the rtings dot com Web site. Look at the TVs that get 8.0 out of 10 across the board.
Your TV fundamentals are outright brightness, viewing angle versus black level, whether or not the screen can dim, and whether that dimming is the whole screen, or progressively smaller zones, or dimming by pixel (OLED does this). Then there's screen refresh rate (50~60Hz basic, or better at 100~120Hz), and whether the panel is pseudo 8-bit, true 8-bit, pseudo 10-bit, or true 10-bit.
This is all foundation stuff that can't be faked, but that won't stop TV manufacturers trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Motion interpolation rate is not the same as panel refresh rate. The image processing can have two goes (100Hz) or 4 goes (200Hz) at best guessing pixel movements for scaling and shading, but if the image is then dumped on a panel that only refreshes every 1/50th of a second then nothing done in software will change that.
Similarly, a panel that can only dim the entire screen isn't going to magically improve because the image processing software tries to manipulate portions of the digital image to create a pseudo dimming effect. It's like Photoshopping each frame, only less subtle.
What we can pull from Al this is that cheap big TVs are poor value. The LEDs don't get bright enough, so have to be run flat out a lot of the time. That shortens the panel life. It also makes for a dull and lackluster picture, and one that struggles against ambient light. Budget sets from Samsung and LG are prone to early failure because of this cost-cutting.
Tgese cheap tellies have 50/60Hz native panels, very limited dimming (if at all), and poor motion processing. Steer clear of the cheapest of anything. Its rarely a bargain.
Go read some reviews at the rtings dot com Web site. Look at the TVs that get 8.0 out of 10 across the board.
This was one of the tvs I looked at, and it cropped up with a mega deal, £1580 with a voucher and free delivery plus a free juicer.
https://markselectrical.co.uk/98c805k_tcl-98-smart...
Seems to get great reviews at a really good price. Richer sounds wouldn't match it but they do have the same 75" version with 6 year warranty for a grand but there's a lot more choice at 75". So haven't decided on that one yet!
https://markselectrical.co.uk/98c805k_tcl-98-smart...
Seems to get great reviews at a really good price. Richer sounds wouldn't match it but they do have the same 75" version with 6 year warranty for a grand but there's a lot more choice at 75". So haven't decided on that one yet!
coxy0072004 said:
This was one of the tvs I looked at, and it cropped up with a mega deal, £1580 with a voucher and free delivery plus a free juicer.
https://markselectrical.co.uk/98c805k_tcl-98-smart...
Seems to get great reviews at a really good price. Richer sounds wouldn't match it but they do have the same 75" version with 6 year warranty for a grand but there's a lot more choice at 75". So haven't decided on that one yet!
My 2 pence...https://markselectrical.co.uk/98c805k_tcl-98-smart...
Seems to get great reviews at a really good price. Richer sounds wouldn't match it but they do have the same 75" version with 6 year warranty for a grand but there's a lot more choice at 75". So haven't decided on that one yet!
I think you'd be mad to pass this up for £2k:
https://www.richersounds.com/philips-77oled809/
And then I'd get this one for the kitchen:
https://www.richersounds.com/tcl-85c855k/
6 year warranties on both plus you get a 100 day trial with the Philips.
The TCL also comes with an £800 soundbar and sub.
You should bear in mind that the TCL's don't come with any UK catch up apps and I suspect that the Philips doesn't have iPlayer yet.
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