Help! New LG TV can't see Yamaha AVR
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The combination of my new LG C2 TV and Yamaha AX-1060 receiver won't talk to each other properly. I can't get the sound from the TV to come through the AVR and out of the speakers.
Treat me like the dullard I am and tell me what HDMI cables go in where, please. And then, if you know, what settings need to be.
On the TV I've got 4 HDMI connections, one with eARC.
On the AVR I've got 7 HDMI input; 2 HDMI outputs, one with ARC.
The kicker I have right now is I can't see the Yamaha settings on screen if there are any changes to make there. I've updated the firmware and can factory reset if required.
Right now that's all I want to do. I'll worry about all the other devices I want to connect later. I'm getting the right hump with it
Thanks in advance.
Treat me like the dullard I am and tell me what HDMI cables go in where, please. And then, if you know, what settings need to be.
On the TV I've got 4 HDMI connections, one with eARC.
On the AVR I've got 7 HDMI input; 2 HDMI outputs, one with ARC.
The kicker I have right now is I can't see the Yamaha settings on screen if there are any changes to make there. I've updated the firmware and can factory reset if required.
Right now that's all I want to do. I'll worry about all the other devices I want to connect later. I'm getting the right hump with it
Thanks in advance.
All the HDMI leads go into the Amp, other than the TV one, which goes to one of the outputs. If your TV supports ARC and so does the AMP, then connect to that HDMI port on the TV/AMP.
Depending on the compatibility of each device the TV may automatically connect to the correct HDMI port when everything is on. If not you will need to select the correct HDMI port using your TV remote (the one the AMP is plugged into on the back of the TV).
Good luck
Depending on the compatibility of each device the TV may automatically connect to the correct HDMI port when everything is on. If not you will need to select the correct HDMI port using your TV remote (the one the AMP is plugged into on the back of the TV).
Good luck
Jesus Christ, that was hard work.
Long and short of it, factory reset both the TV and the AVR. What was happening was the TV was picking up that it was connected to the Yamaha but was treating it as a soundbar by default. Once I established that, another quick restore (for fun, like I had nothing better to do) tell the TV to connect to Home Theatre instead and hurrah! a picture!
What's annoying is, now I know it's there, I can't find how you might change it in the future without a full reset. It must be in Settings somewhere, right?
Setting it all up properly can wait, I need a beer.
Long and short of it, factory reset both the TV and the AVR. What was happening was the TV was picking up that it was connected to the Yamaha but was treating it as a soundbar by default. Once I established that, another quick restore (for fun, like I had nothing better to do) tell the TV to connect to Home Theatre instead and hurrah! a picture!
What's annoying is, now I know it's there, I can't find how you might change it in the future without a full reset. It must be in Settings somewhere, right?
Setting it all up properly can wait, I need a beer.
I have something similar happen with a Panasonic TV and a Yamaha AVR. I don't think it was an AVR issue to be fair.
There is a small hiccup Inn tge HDMI CEC implementation in thatbifvthe AVR is switched off independently of the TV then the TV reverts to using its own speakers, but then won't fire up the AVR next time I switch on the system via the Fire TV stick remote or Sky handset.
To get the AVR to join the party again I need to grab the TV remote, go into tye TV sound menus, then change a setting from TV Speakers back to Home Cinema.
There is a small hiccup Inn tge HDMI CEC implementation in thatbifvthe AVR is switched off independently of the TV then the TV reverts to using its own speakers, but then won't fire up the AVR next time I switch on the system via the Fire TV stick remote or Sky handset.
To get the AVR to join the party again I need to grab the TV remote, go into tye TV sound menus, then change a setting from TV Speakers back to Home Cinema.
TEKNOPUG said:
dickymint said:
Is the receiver model an Yamaha RX-1060 or as OP states an AX as my Google Fu can't find that model? If so it should have an eARC connection and that would be the best way to do it for true 4k UHD and Atmos etc.
It has ARC not eARC.The RX supports Dolby Vision and Atmos so I'd think it would work?
dickymint said:
TEKNOPUG said:
dickymint said:
Is the receiver model an Yamaha RX-1060 or as OP states an AX as my Google Fu can't find that model? If so it should have an eARC connection and that would be the best way to do it for true 4k UHD and Atmos etc.
It has ARC not eARC.The RX supports Dolby Vision and Atmos so I'd think it would work?
https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_...
TEKNOPUG said:
dickymint said:
TEKNOPUG said:
dickymint said:
Is the receiver model an Yamaha RX-1060 or as OP states an AX as my Google Fu can't find that model? If so it should have an eARC connection and that would be the best way to do it for true 4k UHD and Atmos etc.
It has ARC not eARC.The RX supports Dolby Vision and Atmos so I'd think it would work?
https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_...
Some devices can support some of eARC’s functionality despite only having the earlier HDMI standards (HDMI ARC). However, this will only be possible if the manufacturers release firmware that can support eARC.
Here.........
https://pointerclicker.com/is-earc-backwards-compa...
So are you saying it wont work?
dickymint said:
That's the one I was looking at :thumsup: I also found this..............
Some devices can support some of eARC’s functionality despite only having the earlier HDMI standards (HDMI ARC). However, this will only be possible if the manufacturers release firmware that can support eARC.
Here.........
https://pointerclicker.com/is-earc-backwards-compa...
So are you saying it wont work?
No, I'm saying that at best, it will only work with low-bitrate audio. But it may not work at all as CEC handshaking is flaky at best and using different standards and cables may not work at all.Some devices can support some of eARC’s functionality despite only having the earlier HDMI standards (HDMI ARC). However, this will only be possible if the manufacturers release firmware that can support eARC.
Here.........
https://pointerclicker.com/is-earc-backwards-compa...
So are you saying it wont work?
TEKNOPUG said:
dickymint said:
That's the one I was looking at :thumsup: I also found this..............
Some devices can support some of eARC’s functionality despite only having the earlier HDMI standards (HDMI ARC). However, this will only be possible if the manufacturers release firmware that can support eARC.
Here.........
https://pointerclicker.com/is-earc-backwards-compa...
So are you saying it wont work?
No, I'm saying that at best, it will only work with low-bitrate audio. But it may not work at all as CEC handshaking is flaky at best and using different standards and cables may not work at all.Some devices can support some of eARC’s functionality despite only having the earlier HDMI standards (HDMI ARC). However, this will only be possible if the manufacturers release firmware that can support eARC.
Here.........
https://pointerclicker.com/is-earc-backwards-compa...
So are you saying it wont work?
So I came up with this firmware update for OP's receiver...........
https://uk.yamaha.com/en/news_events/2017/rxa_upda...
Then this.........
https://hdguru.com/firmware-updates-for-earc-begin...
"Both the 2018 and 2017 Yamaha AV receiver models in the RX-V 85/83 and RX-A 80/70 series, and models RX-S602 and CX-A5200 will support eARC via the firmware update, the company said. In addition to the RX-V and RX-A models above, the RX-S602 and CX-A5200 would also be included in the list of supported models."
and increased bit rate......
In short, with eARC: 1) the audio bit rate goes all the way up to 38 Mbps compared to 1 Mbps for ARC;
TEKNOPUG said:
But no firmware upgrade for the OP's RX-A1060 as stated in the press release.
But Yamaha said this....."Later in 2017, Yamaha will be providing firmware updates to support Dolby Vision, HLG, TIDAL and Deezer for the following models: RX-V681, RX-A860, RX-A1060, RX-A2060, RX-A3060 and CX-A5100."
Think I'll give up
dickymint said:
TEKNOPUG said:
But no firmware upgrade for the OP's RX-A1060 as stated in the press release.
But Yamaha said this....."Later in 2017, Yamaha will be providing firmware updates to support Dolby Vision, HLG, TIDAL and Deezer for the following models: RX-V681, RX-A860, RX-A1060, RX-A2060, RX-A3060 and CX-A5100."
Think I'll give up
It's just updates to video and audio decoders and functionality.
TEKNOPUG said:
dickymint said:
TEKNOPUG said:
But no firmware upgrade for the OP's RX-A1060 as stated in the press release.
But Yamaha said this....."Later in 2017, Yamaha will be providing firmware updates to support Dolby Vision, HLG, TIDAL and Deezer for the following models: RX-V681, RX-A860, RX-A1060, RX-A2060, RX-A3060 and CX-A5100."
Think I'll give up
It's just updates to video and audio decoders and functionality.
dickymint said:
TEKNOPUG said:
dickymint said:
TEKNOPUG said:
But no firmware upgrade for the OP's RX-A1060 as stated in the press release.
But Yamaha said this....."Later in 2017, Yamaha will be providing firmware updates to support Dolby Vision, HLG, TIDAL and Deezer for the following models: RX-V681, RX-A860, RX-A1060, RX-A2060, RX-A3060 and CX-A5100."
Think I'll give up
It's just updates to video and audio decoders and functionality.
Only the Dolby Vision update is applicable to the OP's 2016 RX-A1060 model.
The eArc firmware is applied to later 2017/18 models in the RX-A 85/83 and RX-A 80/70 series.
It clearly states this in the 2 web pages that you have linked
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