Ceiling speakers for large kitchen/orangery

[beedj]

Any recommendations for a large space (c.10m x 7m), must be family friendly / easy to use/ connect to from Spotify etc, for general background music , parties etc

Something like these maybe which don’t seem to need a separate amp etc? :

https://www.kbaudio.co.uk/products/lithe-audio-blu...

Price not a major factor, nor is access for installation, cables etc

[Pistaaah]

We’ve had good results with LitheAudio ceiling speakers- reliable Bluetooth and decent sound.
Go here: www.litheaudio.com

[paralla]

Two pairs of these powered by a Sonos Amp.

https://ceilingspeakerworld.co.uk/products/monitor...

I have a paid of smaller 6” ones in my kitchen and bathroom ceiling and they have been great.

[VEX]

Without a seperate ampbox you are pretty limited.

Lithe are good but the 6 5" driver size could be an issue, not in terms of volume but definition and bass drive, especially giving the size of you room.

If you are still building then i would recommend, as other have, pre-wire back to a kitchen cupboard (with power) then you can choose passive speaker to meet your needs and as well as the streamer / BT amp box.

Lots out there, well known names and some lesser known, but still good, if not better.

What ever you choose we would strongly recommend the use of Fire & Accustic hoods. Depending on where the kitchen is it may well be a building regs requirement.

V.

Edited by VEX on Saturday 2nd July 16:17

[AC43]

VEX said:

Without a seperate ampbox you are pretty limited.

Lithe are good but the 6 5" driver size could be an issue, not in terms of volume but definition and bass drive, especially giving the size of you room.

If you are still building then i would recommend, as other have, pre-wire back to a kitchen cupboard (with power) then you can choose passive speaker to meet your needs and as well as the streamer / BT amp box.

Lots out there, well known names and some lesser known, but still good, if not better.

What ever you choose we would strongly recommend the use of Fire & Accustic hoods. Depending on where the kitchen is it may well be a building regs requirement.

V.

Edited by VEX on Saturday 2nd July 16:17

+1.

If you got for passive speakers & an amp you'll be future proofed and, more to the point, you'll get a much better sound. Also, you get the option to add a sub. They make such a difference. I've got 5 in my house (2 for music systems and 3 for TV) and just had one retro-fitted in the car.

[T1berious]

For my kitchen / conservatory build I've gone for 2 pairs of these.

https://totemacoustic.com/product/kin-architectura...

The initial listening I've done in frankly a horrible acoustic space has been frankly jaw dropping. Not cheap but it's a one shot deal with ceiling speakers IMHO.

Powered by a Rotel 1592 Mk II, overkill with a sub but I only want to do this build once.

[MrSparks]

beedj said:

Any recommendations for a large space (c.10m x 7m), must be family friendly / easy to use/ connect to from Spotify etc, for general background music , parties etc

Something like these maybe which don’t seem to need a separate amp etc? :

https://www.kbaudio.co.uk/products/lithe-audio-blu...

Price not a major factor, nor is access for installation, cables etc

Hi Beedj,

That's my website, thanks for looking at us

Lithe Audio are hugely popular for kitchens, bedrooms, bathrooms etc. They are great quality speakers for the price, easy to fit and easy to use and definitely fit a lot of applications / budgets.

That said, you can't beat the flexibility of a wired system with separate amplifier. You can choose better / bigger speakers, add a subwoofer etc.

You'd be looking at two pairs (four) speakers for full coverage of that area.

I'd highly recommend looking at the Tangent Ampster BT II amplifier and some Q Acoustics QI65CP in ceiling speakers for the next step up from Lithe. If you can fit a subwoofer in then even better. Not silly money but it's a great system and allows for future upgrades to multiroom etc.

Pair phones, play music, link an Amazon Echo device for voice control (via Bluetooth). Quite flexible.

Edited by MrSparks on Sunday 3rd July 20:05

[Sporky]

What's the ceiling height? That has a significant effect on how many speakers you need for even coverage. I'd generally go for smaller drivers and a sub - smaller drivers generally result in wider coverage.

If you post the ceiling height I can run it through EASE tomorrow.

[dazmanultra]

The Lithe audio speakers are great for ease of install with the integrated amplifier, and they do sound decent but I also have a set of Q Acoustics speakers which to me sound better and are definitely worth thinking about. We have Lithe audio in our kitchen/diner, and Q acoustics IP rated ones in our master bathroom and also a stereo set outside mounted in the soffit.

I ordered from kbaudio.co.uk - great pricing and really quick delivery. Very impressed with them and great to support a PHer.

[VEX]

T1berious said:

For my kitchen / conservatory build I've gone for 2 pairs of these.

https://totemacoustic.com/product/kin-architectura...

The initial listening I've done in frankly a horrible acoustic space has been frankly jaw dropping. Not cheap but it's a one shot deal with ceiling speakers IMHO.

Powered by a Rotel 1592 Mk II, overkill with a sub but I only want to do this build once.

Love the whole Totem range whenever I hear them. The new active speaker ranges are due out soon, they performed amazingly it the Munich HighEnd Show in May.

[MrSparks]

dazmanultra said:

I ordered from kbaudio.co.uk - great pricing and really quick delivery. Very impressed with them and great to support a PHer.

Thanks Dazmanultra

[beedj]

Sporky said:

What's the ceiling height? That has a significant effect on how many speakers you need for even coverage. I'd generally go for smaller drivers and a sub - smaller drivers generally result in wider coverage.

If you post the ceiling height I can run it through EASE tomorrow.

Thanks, two different heights : original kitchen 6m x 7m x 2.3m high, new orangery type extension 4m x 7m x 2.1m high but ceiling is only around the edge (approx 1m) of the orangery area as it has a 5mx2.5m glass lantern in centre

[beedj]

MrSparks said:

Hi Beedj,

That's my website, thanks for looking at us

Lithe Audio are hugely popular for kitchens, bedrooms, bathrooms etc. They are great quality speakers for the price, easy to fit and easy to use and definitely fit a lot of applications / budgets.

That said, you can't beat the flexibility of a wired system with separate amplifier. You can choose better / bigger speakers, add a subwoofer etc.

You'd be looking at two pairs (four) speakers for full coverage of that area.

I'd highly recommend looking at the Tangent Ampster BT II amplifier and some Q Acoustics QI65CP in ceiling speakers for the next step up from Lithe. If you can fit a subwoofer in then even better. Not silly money but it's a great system and allows for future upgrades to multiroom etc.

Pair phones, play music, link an Amazon Echo device for voice control (via Bluetooth). Quite flexible.

Edited by MrSparks on Sunday 3rd July 20:05

Thanks - presumably you are Craig, or work with him?!? I had an email exchange with you on same topic in early May (including a layout plan) but just getting round to progressing as my build went back. Would be good to have a chat in next few days?

[MrSparks]

beedj said:

Thanks - presumably you are Craig, or work with him?!? I had an email exchange with you on same topic in early May (including a layout plan) but just getting round to progressing as my build went back. Would be good to have a chat in next few days?

Yep that’s me, feel free to email / call whenever suits you and I’ll be happy to help and compare options.

[Sporky]

beedj said:

Thanks, two different heights : original kitchen 6m x 7m x 2.3m high, new orangery type extension 4m x 7m x 2.1m high but ceiling is only around the edge (approx 1m) of the orangery area as it has a 5mx2.5m glass lantern in centre

Basing it on the wide dispersion speakers I use most often (though I do commercial, not residential) I'd have nine in the kitchen and six in the orangery.

That gets you to +/- 0.7dB in the kitchen, +/- 0.4dB in the orangery.

You could do four in each, getting to +/-1.4dB and +/-0.8dB respectively, but most home speakers aren't as wide dispersion as what I use so you'll have more level variation.

The ones I use are £185 a pair. You'd want a sub for anything past background music, but they sound very decent in their frequency range. Only down to 265Hz at +/-3dB, hence the sub.