Book shelf speakers for Sony Bravia Smart TV
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Hi All,
I am wanting to improve the sound of my Sony Bravia TV. I am not too keen on a soundbar, having already got that setup on a Bravia in another room and finding it average. I was thinking of some bookshelf speakers like these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Edifier-R1280DB-Bluetooth...
I am not an audiophile - I am just looking for an improvement over the tinny TV speakers. What are your guys thoughts on bookshelf speakers for a TV setup?
I am wanting to improve the sound of my Sony Bravia TV. I am not too keen on a soundbar, having already got that setup on a Bravia in another room and finding it average. I was thinking of some bookshelf speakers like these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Edifier-R1280DB-Bluetooth...
I am not an audiophile - I am just looking for an improvement over the tinny TV speakers. What are your guys thoughts on bookshelf speakers for a TV setup?
Anyone who asks the same sort of question as you, "can get I get something better, and if so, what?" is an audiophile. You're not an audiosnob, which is what I believe many confuse with audiophile. You're just someone looking to make a considered purchase rather than simply accepting the first thing you find.
Stereo speakers on a TV will work fine. How much better they are compared to the sound bar depends a lot on the sound bar. For something at an equivalent price, I'd expect the speakers to sound deeper and richer simply because of the larger cabinets and bigger drivers.
Try the Edifiers. Hook them up with an optical cable from the TV. Set the TV audio out to PCM.
Stereo speakers on a TV will work fine. How much better they are compared to the sound bar depends a lot on the sound bar. For something at an equivalent price, I'd expect the speakers to sound deeper and richer simply because of the larger cabinets and bigger drivers.
Try the Edifiers. Hook them up with an optical cable from the TV. Set the TV audio out to PCM.
Thanks for your help Lucid.
I have brought these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133384164460?ssPageName...
My TV is mounted to the wall, so these speakers will need mounting next to it. Could you recommend a good speaker bracket? Also, is it better to place speakers higher up and angle down, or at the level of the TV?
I have brought these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133384164460?ssPageName...
My TV is mounted to the wall, so these speakers will need mounting next to it. Could you recommend a good speaker bracket? Also, is it better to place speakers higher up and angle down, or at the level of the TV?
The better place for wall mounting speakers lower down a wall rather than high up. Basically the closer you get to a ceiling, or worse, a corner, then the poorer the sound because of all the adjacent surface reflections.
Angling the speakers down very much depends on how high they'll be relative to your ears when you're sitting to listen. If wall mounting for you means that the tweeters are level with your ears when you're seated then the speakers should stay angled straight ahead. But if the tweeters are higher, then you should angle them down. If it helps you visualise it, imagine each speaker face as a mirror. If you couldn't see your reflection in the mirror then you'd angle the mirror until you could. Do the same for the vertical adjustment of the speaker.
All the above about speaker angle is just about the up/down tilt, and not the side-to-side angling that we refer to as toe-in.
You'll have to experiment with that because there are too many variables to try to discuss in a short reply; e.g. speaker design, tweeter dispersion, distance between the speakers, seating distance etc. Your aim though is to have the sound focus where you sit to create a sense of front-to-back and side-to-side imaging. This is where you can close your eyes and visualise the positions of the instruments and singer(s) from the sound that the speakers generate.
Where the speakers are toed-in too much then all the sound will be generally bunched-up and jumbled directly in front of the screen rather than further out where you sit. The opposite end of the spectrum is where the speakers are pointing straight ahead and it creates a hole-in-the-middle effect where the sound appears to come from two distinct points. This is normally more of a problem where the speakers are widely spaced. It's less of the case where the speakers are narrowly spaced as you might have if they're close by the sides of the TV.
For brands, AVF and B-Tech are well made.
Angling the speakers down very much depends on how high they'll be relative to your ears when you're sitting to listen. If wall mounting for you means that the tweeters are level with your ears when you're seated then the speakers should stay angled straight ahead. But if the tweeters are higher, then you should angle them down. If it helps you visualise it, imagine each speaker face as a mirror. If you couldn't see your reflection in the mirror then you'd angle the mirror until you could. Do the same for the vertical adjustment of the speaker.
All the above about speaker angle is just about the up/down tilt, and not the side-to-side angling that we refer to as toe-in.
You'll have to experiment with that because there are too many variables to try to discuss in a short reply; e.g. speaker design, tweeter dispersion, distance between the speakers, seating distance etc. Your aim though is to have the sound focus where you sit to create a sense of front-to-back and side-to-side imaging. This is where you can close your eyes and visualise the positions of the instruments and singer(s) from the sound that the speakers generate.
Where the speakers are toed-in too much then all the sound will be generally bunched-up and jumbled directly in front of the screen rather than further out where you sit. The opposite end of the spectrum is where the speakers are pointing straight ahead and it creates a hole-in-the-middle effect where the sound appears to come from two distinct points. This is normally more of a problem where the speakers are widely spaced. It's less of the case where the speakers are narrowly spaced as you might have if they're close by the sides of the TV.
For brands, AVF and B-Tech are well made.
Lucid_AV said:
The better place for wall mounting speakers lower down a wall rather than high up. Basically the closer you get to a ceiling, or worse, a corner, then the poorer the sound because of all the adjacent surface reflections.
Angling the speakers down very much depends on how high they'll be relative to your ears when you're sitting to listen. If wall mounting for you means that the tweeters are level with your ears when you're seated then the speakers should stay angled straight ahead. But if the tweeters are higher, then you should angle them down. If it helps you visualise it, imagine each speaker face as a mirror. If you couldn't see your reflection in the mirror then you'd angle the mirror until you could. Do the same for the vertical adjustment of the speaker.
All the above about speaker angle is just about the up/down tilt, and not the side-to-side angling that we refer to as toe-in.
You'll have to experiment with that because there are too many variables to try to discuss in a short reply; e.g. speaker design, tweeter dispersion, distance between the speakers, seating distance etc. Your aim though is to have the sound focus where you sit to create a sense of front-to-back and side-to-side imaging. This is where you can close your eyes and visualise the positions of the instruments and singer(s) from the sound that the speakers generate.
Where the speakers are toed-in too much then all the sound will be generally bunched-up and jumbled directly in front of the screen rather than further out where you sit. The opposite end of the spectrum is where the speakers are pointing straight ahead and it creates a hole-in-the-middle effect where the sound appears to come from two distinct points. This is normally more of a problem where the speakers are widely spaced. It's less of the case where the speakers are narrowly spaced as you might have if they're close by the sides of the TV.
For brands, AVF and B-Tech are well made.
Excellent information. Thanks very much for taking the time to write the post - I appreciate it a lot. Angling the speakers down very much depends on how high they'll be relative to your ears when you're sitting to listen. If wall mounting for you means that the tweeters are level with your ears when you're seated then the speakers should stay angled straight ahead. But if the tweeters are higher, then you should angle them down. If it helps you visualise it, imagine each speaker face as a mirror. If you couldn't see your reflection in the mirror then you'd angle the mirror until you could. Do the same for the vertical adjustment of the speaker.
All the above about speaker angle is just about the up/down tilt, and not the side-to-side angling that we refer to as toe-in.
You'll have to experiment with that because there are too many variables to try to discuss in a short reply; e.g. speaker design, tweeter dispersion, distance between the speakers, seating distance etc. Your aim though is to have the sound focus where you sit to create a sense of front-to-back and side-to-side imaging. This is where you can close your eyes and visualise the positions of the instruments and singer(s) from the sound that the speakers generate.
Where the speakers are toed-in too much then all the sound will be generally bunched-up and jumbled directly in front of the screen rather than further out where you sit. The opposite end of the spectrum is where the speakers are pointing straight ahead and it creates a hole-in-the-middle effect where the sound appears to come from two distinct points. This is normally more of a problem where the speakers are widely spaced. It's less of the case where the speakers are narrowly spaced as you might have if they're close by the sides of the TV.
For brands, AVF and B-Tech are well made.
OK, having had these speakers for a couple of months, I must say they are excellent.
There is one problem, when I turn the TV and speakers off at the mains, and then switch them back on, the speaker volume defaults to 'very loud' despite turning them to low before turning off. Is there a setting that can be altered to adjust this?
There is one problem, when I turn the TV and speakers off at the mains, and then switch them back on, the speaker volume defaults to 'very loud' despite turning them to low before turning off. Is there a setting that can be altered to adjust this?
Why do you turn them off at the mains - can't you just put them on standby?
And out of curiosity, if on standby do you get the same problem?
Must admit, haven't heard of sound default up but can only assume the volume memory is electronically stored, so cutting the power is causing it to default to a set position, in this case, loud.
And out of curiosity, if on standby do you get the same problem?
Must admit, haven't heard of sound default up but can only assume the volume memory is electronically stored, so cutting the power is causing it to default to a set position, in this case, loud.
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