Singapore MAS introduces loan to value measures for cars!

Singapore MAS introduces loan to value measures for cars!

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heffernj

Original Poster:

40 posts

253 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Not sure if you all saw the news and are still in shock, or may not have read it yet... seems like the MAS have really frozen up the car market for a while with little to no notice period it was coming:

http://www.stcars.sg/guides-articles/motoring-news...

Got to love the MAS.

James

Porkchop81

5 posts

140 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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And the good thing from that is??

Well on the radio this morning COE is cheaper for a ferrari than a Toyota Atlas. haha
plus the price of big cars has dropped.

Crazy place

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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I was given a leaflet in the street last week in kl for Peraduas, one of the offers was 190Rm down and 10 year loan, so I think there is a need for some financial prudance being impossed.
There is a Myvi Extreme where I work in Sarawak, that had an accident, serious damage to the fiber glass from skirt, spliter thing, never been fixed and I see the car every day for the last 6 months, which indicates that the car is uninsured so any thing that stops people buying cars they can't aford to insure has some merit in this region.

XJSJohn

16,034 posts

226 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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Its definitely an interesting one, the car market needed cooling here as so many people are over leveraged but at the same time, killing the industry like this will cause a lit of people to loose their jobs!!

on the plus side, COE's are dropping so may pick up another nice classic and renew the COE at an affordable price in 6 or 12 months!

Nick M

3,626 posts

230 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Berw said:
I was given a leaflet in the street last week in kl for Peraduas, one of the offers was 190Rm down and 10 year loan, so I think there is a need for some financial prudance being impossed.
Scary...

I also find it amusing, in a wry sort of way, that a Myvi SE Manual, on the road, is cheaper in the UK than in Malaysia...




anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Actually lower pricing in an export market was what I was taught, you absorb all your overheads in your domestic market, which allows you to offer lower marginal prices in export/developing market, off course in Europe today that would probably be illegal.

Nick M

3,626 posts

230 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Absolutely - I can see why they do it.

And I thought some of the worst excesses of people being sold long-term unsecured loans on cars had been curbed last year, but I guess not. It's pretty much the motoring equivalent of sub-prime mortgages, though hopefully without the same global repercussions...

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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There may be no global repercussions, but you are right there will be local ones, and I have 4 road cars, so the impact on me of any price allignment in 2ndhand cars will be bad enough.
The banks have a policy of not selling repossed cars but leaving them to rot, as long as they do this, we are OK, as this they never need to recognise the bad debt as toxic, because they can keep the car at an inflated value in thier books, write the debt off over say 3 years, but write the car off over 10 then the bad debt is covered by the value of the asset securing it no need to take a hit in the P and L.

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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There may be no global repercussions, but you are right there will be local ones, and I have 4 road cars, so the impact on me of any price allignment in 2ndhand cars will be bad enough.
The banks have a policy of not selling repossed cars but leaving them to rot, as long as they do this, we are OK, as this they never need to recognise the bad debt as toxic, because they can keep the car at an inflated value in thier books, write the debt off over say 3 years, but write the car off over 10 then the bad debt is covered by the value of the asset securing it no need to take a hit in the P and L.

Nick M

3,626 posts

230 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Would love to know how many cars get repossessed each year. My (very scientific...) guess is 'quite a few'.

And regardless of the questionable logic behind the banks approach to bad debts, it's hardly the most environmentally friendly of solutions...

Edited by Nick M on Monday 18th March 07:38

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Drive North out of town on Jalan Ipoh from Tun Razak there are fields of them, but they will not take offers for the reason i gave. We tried,

Nick M

3,626 posts

230 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Crazy, on so many levels frown

istoo

2,365 posts

209 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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Nick M said:
Scary...

I also find it amusing, in a wry sort of way, that a Myvi SE Manual, on the road, is cheaper in the UK than in Malaysia...
more scary... i am looking for a commuting rollerskate, and for pure nostalgia i fancy a Myvi! Maybe we shoudl start importing them back to Malaysia, interesting carbon footprint..

Nick M

3,626 posts

230 months

Thursday 28th March 2013
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LOL

I dare you !! But it has to be a ginger one !