Jakarta - Help...
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Tried this on the "Holidays" board with little success... Hoping you guys can help.
Heading out there for work this week, and have no experience of the place at all. There for a week or so, staying at Shangri-La and meeting clients who are also not local.
Need some general local info (where to avoid, what to see), but also need a couple of specific recommendations:
1. Where to take clients for dinner (cost not an issue, good quality needed, local cuisine preferred)
2. Where to take clients for drinks (nice, respectable, not bothered about cost)
3. Where to go for some entertainment in my free time (bars, clubs etc., bearing in mind I'm in my twenties)
Thanks in advance!
Heading out there for work this week, and have no experience of the place at all. There for a week or so, staying at Shangri-La and meeting clients who are also not local.
Need some general local info (where to avoid, what to see), but also need a couple of specific recommendations:
1. Where to take clients for dinner (cost not an issue, good quality needed, local cuisine preferred)
2. Where to take clients for drinks (nice, respectable, not bothered about cost)
3. Where to go for some entertainment in my free time (bars, clubs etc., bearing in mind I'm in my twenties)
Thanks in advance!
I am no expert on Jakarts, (dispite owning a house there), but my experience is you go somewhere near to where you are staying, as dictated by the traffic. All the big hotels are fine, but the security can get on your nerves, metal detectors everytime you enter the hotel mirror check under the car.
Personally I would not spend big money on entertaining Indonesians, let your agent to that, and don't get involved, as aEuropean just meet and great and leave it, I would not go near a heavy night eating/drinking with Indonesian clients.
Personally I would not spend big money on entertaining Indonesians, let your agent to that, and don't get involved, as aEuropean just meet and great and leave it, I would not go near a heavy night eating/drinking with Indonesian clients.
Ok, I'm also no expert on Jakarta but do pass through there from time to time. Based on where you're staying, I'd go with the following:
1) Paulaner Brauhaus (located in Grand Indonesia Shopping Town plaza) - great food, good atmosphere and they have their own micro-brewery. Ok, not local food but in my experience, the locals quite enjoy dinning out on "foreign food"
2) Either Immigrant (located just across the road from Grand Indonesia plaza in Plaza Indonesia) or Social House (also in Grand Indonesia plaza) which is a little quieter and also does good food.
3) This depends on what you're into really. The Kemang area's possibly somewhere you might enjoy (Eastern Promise being a highlight for many expats). There's also plenty of clubs/bars around there. Also, the Blok M area. Both are a bit of a trek from your hotel though. Closer would be either Millenium or Stadium which are both large night clubs. I've not tired either but plenty of my colleagues seem to enjoy them.
Have fun
1) Paulaner Brauhaus (located in Grand Indonesia Shopping Town plaza) - great food, good atmosphere and they have their own micro-brewery. Ok, not local food but in my experience, the locals quite enjoy dinning out on "foreign food"
2) Either Immigrant (located just across the road from Grand Indonesia plaza in Plaza Indonesia) or Social House (also in Grand Indonesia plaza) which is a little quieter and also does good food.
3) This depends on what you're into really. The Kemang area's possibly somewhere you might enjoy (Eastern Promise being a highlight for many expats). There's also plenty of clubs/bars around there. Also, the Blok M area. Both are a bit of a trek from your hotel though. Closer would be either Millenium or Stadium which are both large night clubs. I've not tired either but plenty of my colleagues seem to enjoy them.
Have fun
Thanks guys! Some food for thought there, especially about the traffic scenario.
Really do need some restaurant recommendations though, as the clients are a mix of singaporean and north American, and i think they would be expecting something decent, based on the value of this particular contract/project...
Really do need some restaurant recommendations though, as the clients are a mix of singaporean and north American, and i think they would be expecting something decent, based on the value of this particular contract/project...
Ohh yea, Blok M!!
SIngaporeans will probably either go for local street food or high end big bill stuff in the hotels, I forget which but either Marriott or Hyatt used to have a very good steak restaurant with a good atmosphere.
Usually in places like Jakarta it's down to availability of alcohol and women surely, see first statement
SIngaporeans will probably either go for local street food or high end big bill stuff in the hotels, I forget which but either Marriott or Hyatt used to have a very good steak restaurant with a good atmosphere.
Usually in places like Jakarta it's down to availability of alcohol and women surely, see first statement
I'll repeat my point above, the guy was aking for advice on taking a client out, any European, (especially one new to the region) who goes to 'good time areas' with his clients and his employers money, is asking for trouble, go to dinner in the hotel with them and let the local agent do anything else.
And its the same the other way around, do not go any where except dinner with a supplier. Good time areas are cheap enough anyway, go there wiith your mates.
And its the same the other way around, do not go any where except dinner with a supplier. Good time areas are cheap enough anyway, go there wiith your mates.
Berw said:
I'll repeat my point above, the guy was aking for advice on taking a client out, any European, (especially one new to the region) who goes to 'good time areas' with his clients and his employers money, is asking for trouble, go to dinner in the hotel with them and let the local agent do anything else.
And its the same the other way around, do not go any where except dinner with a supplier. Good time areas are cheap enough anyway, go there wiith your mates.
Reminds me of what the guy I used to work for in HK did when our global head came over for a few days (the expat dude was a real FILTH anyway, so I wasn't that surprised):And its the same the other way around, do not go any where except dinner with a supplier. Good time areas are cheap enough anyway, go there wiith your mates.
Took said global head out (and the guy was a real geek who only talked about work and PSP), got smashed and ended up in Dusk til Dawn at 3am.
Needless to say, when the post-Lehman redundancy letters came in, he was first off the boat. And in fact, the only one.
Muppet.
Yeah, perhaps blok m isn't quite for me with that in mind...
Never did dig the whole sleazy Thai expat idea, despite plenty of travelling friends finding themselves staying on in Bangkok and pattaya for longer than anticipated. Will probably play this one safe in that case.
Cheers all!
Never did dig the whole sleazy Thai expat idea, despite plenty of travelling friends finding themselves staying on in Bangkok and pattaya for longer than anticipated. Will probably play this one safe in that case.
Cheers all!
Its not just sleaze it's what may be going on that you don't know, 25 years ago I worked for a major contraactor with interest in Indonesia, we had a rule that no UK staff were alone with an Indonesian client,
Which is why me advice is dinner at your hotel and everything else is with an your agent, then if ever there is a any aligation of a misdeed, have physical distance between you any events referenced.
I have a bunch of odd rules like this that I live by, like I never go into a bar with a closed door with a supplier, you may think I over react, but by having rules I obey them even if I've had a drink to many,
Which is why me advice is dinner at your hotel and everything else is with an your agent, then if ever there is a any aligation of a misdeed, have physical distance between you any events referenced.
I have a bunch of odd rules like this that I live by, like I never go into a bar with a closed door with a supplier, you may think I over react, but by having rules I obey them even if I've had a drink to many,
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