Retrofitting Air Con
Retrofitting Air Con
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rs_man

Original Poster:

40 posts

270 months

Saturday 10th October 2009
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The car I have purchased doesn't have air con even though there is a button on dash :-( How big a job is it to retrofit it to the car, I am concerned that the cockpit is going to get very hot considering lack of ventilation and the colour being black, I am also considering racing it. Is it feasable to locate the condensor rad in one of the sidepods at the rear or does it have to be fitted at the front? Thanks

Stig

11,823 posts

313 months

Saturday 10th October 2009
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rs_man said:
The car I have purchased doesn't have air con even though there is a button on dash :-( How big a job is it to retrofit it to the car, I am concerned that the cockpit is going to get very hot considering lack of ventilation and the colour being black, I am also considering racing it. Is it feasable to locate the condensor rad in one of the sidepods at the rear or does it have to be fitted at the front? Thanks
The usual location for the condensor IS in the sidepods at the rear (on the drivers side). Button on the dash is probably for the blower?

Retrofitting it is not an easy task and involves some keyhole surgery under the dash. Crazyofcookham did it so is far better qualified to tell you what a mare it is wink

rs_man

Original Poster:

40 posts

270 months

Saturday 10th October 2009
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Thanks Stig, didn't think it was going to be an easy job. Is the factory supplied unit the only option. Anyone fitted anything else?

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Saturday 10th October 2009
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rs_man said:
Thanks Stig, didn't think it was going to be an easy job. Is the factory supplied unit the only option. Anyone fitted anything else?
There are, no doubt, units out there which will do the job but would require some thought and experimentation to install.

However...
If you are trying to retrofit, working upside down in the footwell, I would suggest going with a known install and the advise available from those who have done it before.

Steve

60mph

254 posts

214 months

Saturday 10th October 2009
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I have seen an Ultima with the front fibreglass bulkhead cut away to obtain much better access to the underneath of the dashboard . It seems a bit drastic but if done neatly and in a way that you can screw the cutout bit firmly back in may be a risk worth taking .
Thats not me on the right

Frank

Edited by 60mph on Saturday 10th October 18:43


Edited by 60mph on Sunday 11th October 17:07

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Saturday 10th October 2009
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60mph said:
I have seen an Ultima with the front fibreglass bulkhead cut away to obtain much better access to the underneath of the dashboard . It seems a bit drastic but if done neatly and in a way that you can screw the cutout bit firmly back in may be a risk worth taking .
Thats not me on the right .

Frank
I think you will find the hatch was cut to access the brake pedals.
A hatch in that position will not be far enough back to help fitting AC which sits only a few inches behind the dash.

Steve

GTRMikie

874 posts

277 months

Saturday 10th October 2009
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Keith (ditto) retrofitted AC to his GTR. I think he used a "Car Builders Solution" kit, or parts of it. If Keith can get under the dashboard to fit it, anyone can!

ditto

614 posts

269 months

Sunday 11th October 2009
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GTRMikie said:
Keith (ditto) retrofitted AC to his GTR. I think he used a "Car Builders Solution" kit, or parts of it. If Keith can get under the dashboard to fit it, anyone can!
Oi you saying im fat hehe

I did use a unit from kit car solutions, which is a slightly smaller unit under the dash and didn’t have any problems at all, removed the seats installed a pillow and went to work thumbup

60mph

254 posts

214 months

Sunday 11th October 2009
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I thought you were going to say" went to sleep ".

Frank

spatz

1,783 posts

215 months

Sunday 11th October 2009
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i was under the dash today with seats installed, and I am probably the biggest (fattest) of us all. just went in the seat upside down, nice view of my loom.............

wiz wal

16 posts

204 months

Sunday 11th October 2009
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hi ditto thanks for the help today about air con

ditto

614 posts

269 months

Sunday 11th October 2009
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wiz wal said:
hi ditto thanks for the help today about air con
Anytime thumbup

Crazy of Cookham

740 posts

284 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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Can be done although would be far more difficult on a GTR. On the Canam I was able to remove the winscreen and then the centre instument pod. The aircon unit was installed from underneath and not from the top. Removing the seats makes the whole thing a bit easier. I did however use a small 90 degree drill to remove old support plate and then used taht as template for aircon support plate. I had to cut off back of plate and then refix after so as to get unit in. Mail me if you need specifics happy t help.

BTW if you intend to track or race not sure if having A/C good idea. I always turn mine off on track as engine getting enough stick without having to run a/c.

wiz wal

16 posts

204 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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just looking on kitcar solution on page 199 u can buy just aircon unit with out the heater [size is small]

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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wiz wal said:
just looking on kitcar solution on page 199 u can buy just aircon unit with out the heater
Don't forget you will require a heater to comply with IVA demisting.

Steve

Edited by Steve_D on Tuesday 13th October 07:15

wiz wal

16 posts

204 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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just leave old heater unit in . put small aircon unit a long side ???? .

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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wiz wal said:
just leave old heater unit in . put small aircon unit a long side ???? .
As they both need to connect to the same air pipes having them separate will just make life even more difficult.

Steve

wiz wal

16 posts

204 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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hi steve d have a look at the unit . very small outlets two grills on the front .saves alot of work for guys not so good with the tools .