Steering column
Steering column
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V8 Vum

Original Poster:

3,206 posts

250 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Just a quick question.

Was reveiwing my interior build before finalising the column arrangements and got to wondering....

Do you absolutely need a crush zone unit fitted to the Column to pass IVA?

cheers

Keith

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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I would leave it there unless you realy cant have it in your setup.

Looking at the IVA regs you may be able to claim that the protection is provided by the lower part of the shaft being at an angle.
The inspector must convince himself that the wheel will not move back towards the driver by more than 127mm in a 30mph frontal. The angle must be greater than 10 degrees. I will leave you to measure this as I don't fancy laying upside down in the footwell today. As the UJ on the upper shaft can only move back about 25mm before coming up against the chassis it is reasonable to claim that the lower shaft would then bend due to the angle.

Steve

EDA Just had another read of IVA section 14.
What I said above covers movement of the column in a crash.
What the section also says is that there must be protection from the driver impacting the wheel so the crush zone will have to stay.

Edited by Steve_D on Monday 14th September 10:38

DHGTR

1,196 posts

272 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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i would think so.
you ABSOLUTELY needed it for SVA and my tester in April said the IVA was very hot on cockpit safety.

But there was something mentioned a while back that because the Ultima steering column was offset to the rack that technically the offset was a crush zone so you perhaps wouldnt need it.

Why dont you give the local test centre a call?

Dave

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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DHGTR said:
......But there was something mentioned a while back that because the Ultima steering column was offset to the rack that technically the offset was a crush zone so you perhaps wouldnt need it.....
This may work if when the crush unit is removed the shaft can move into the dash when impacted by the driver. I suspect the reason for wanting to remove it is to make room for switchgear in which case it could be claimed that this arrangement would prevent the shaft moving forwards.

Steve

V8 Vum

Original Poster:

3,206 posts

250 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Heck... a mine-field!

Actually I don't have a crush thingy which was the reason for the question.
One of these units would seriously screw up my column arrangements so I think best that I remove my steering wheel quick release (which is bigger than expected) and replace with a crush unit?

Steve, I have looked and looked but can't seem to find the IVA book as a download...and Ideas, as a google just brings back the finacial IVA thingy..eek - which is...NOT NICE!

cheers

keith

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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V8 Vum said:
....Steve, I have looked and looked but can't seem to find the IVA book as a download...and Ideas, as a google just brings back the finacial IVA thingy..eek - which is...NOT NICE!

cheers

keith
It's in a sticky in the PH Kitcars forum.

Steve

UltimaCH

3,181 posts

218 months

Monday 14th September 2009
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Can this help?
http://www.ampar.com/pdfs/SVA%20to%20IVA%20leaflet...
and here
http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/vehicledeale...



Edited by UltimaCH on Monday 14th September 12:12

ROWDYRENAULT

1,294 posts

243 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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guys I must say that I installed a quick release on my GTR. Now that I have lived with the car for a bit I don't think that I would bother with one if and when I build a second GTR. The only time I take it off is when I am working under the dash and thats not very often. If some of you are trying to find ways to save a little time and money on the build this is one place I would suggest. Lee

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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ROWDYRENAULT said:
guys I must say that I installed a quick release on my GTR. Now that I have lived with the car for a bit I don't think that I would bother with one if and when I build a second GTR. The only time I take it off is when I am working under the dash and thats not very often. If some of you are trying to find ways to save a little time and money on the build this is one place I would suggest. Lee
Quite agree.
If the function of the quick release, in this case, is for security then there is little point seeing as an Ultima has never been stolen.

Steve

GTRMikie

874 posts

277 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Removal of the steering wheel makes it a lot easier to get into and out of the car. Well it does for me!