Budget
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pistolar

Original Poster:

1,474 posts

297 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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Greetings Gents,
Could you please help me work out my budget. How much should i budget for an Audi engine, transaxle and ancillaries.

thanks for your help.

highflyer

1,901 posts

255 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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Try the Audi site!!

Scotty-Boy

532 posts

221 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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Which Audi engine, trans-axle and ancillaries?

pistolar

Original Poster:

1,474 posts

297 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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Scotty-Boy said:
Which Audi engine, trans-axle and ancillaries?
Was hoping for v8, what set up would you recommend

Scotty-Boy

532 posts

221 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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Indeed... but what V8? There's the RS4 V8, or the standard V8.

kylemrushall

1,922 posts

233 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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I would'nt go Audi V8 i would go with a nice LS7, you can use the ECU etc and imo it will be a lot easier install, but if you want to go Audi V8 then get the non FSI engine.

qwick

530 posts

296 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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Don't start that again Kyle.....

GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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Whatever route you choose the equation needed to calculate a budget is the same: Work out the cheapest way to purchase all of the parts needed for your spec build, double it and add your age as a percentage of the overall budget minus a quarter, then times by inflation. Simple hehe

LuckyP

6,243 posts

254 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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GTWayne said:
Whatever route you choose the equation needed to calculate a budget is the same: Work out the cheapest way to purchase all of the parts needed for your spec build, double it and add your age as a percentage of the overall budget minus a quarter, then times by inflation. Simple hehe
Oh you are a card, tent-matewink

TuxMan

9,011 posts

267 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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pistolar ...in truth mate no body knows as it has yet to be do !! scotty is working on one at the moment but he still has some way to go !!

go for waynes way !!!!!!! its the same way the factory do there priceing laughlaugh


kylemrushall

1,922 posts

233 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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qwick said:
Don't start that again Kyle.....
Why its true so the poster needs to know, he has asked for opinions so im giving mine as im sure you will give yours!!!

Scotty-Boy

532 posts

221 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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It's true insofar that you would have to spend outrageous amounts of time / money to get the engine to run as an 'FSI' unit. Both the Bosch ecu's (yes - it has 2!) can be cracked but it ain't cheap!

Contrary to (some) opinion, the engine will still function with an aftermarket ecu, a set of individual throttle bodies and some machine work to plug up the old FSI injector 'holes'. This involves stripping it right back to the block, a water pump and a few pipes - helps you lose over 35kg!

I would be surprised if this route cost more than £3.5k to complete (including engine if you shop around!). I'm hoping that I will get a few hundred quid back on unused engine parts that were removed.

It has been done in a couple of other cars and BHP figures have been 405 - 415. Not bad as reports suggest that most 'normal' RS4's fail to break the 400 mark!

I'll be happy with those sorts of figures as I'm looking to get the overall weight of the vehicle stripped right down to the basics... and 8250rpm sounds like fun!



T5GRF

2,035 posts

293 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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Tuxman I was under the impression that Pee had fitted an Audi V8 to his GTR a while ago although he doesn't seem to visit here any more.

deadscoob

2,265 posts

289 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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I've seen an RS4 engine in the back of an Ultima and it's a lovely package, not the most powerful, but should make a great all round car.

basherbarrichelo

187 posts

224 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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Can somebody just tell me what is so good about having the RS4 V8 when it only makes 420bhp or what ever it is it makes, when there is the LS7 available making 550bhp. I just don’t under stand what the fasonation is all about with them.

Scotty-Boy

532 posts

221 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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There is no fascination, or a great comparison to be held with the LS7... the LS7 is a fantastic engine and is certainly more powerful than the Audi lump.

The only reason that I'm using the RS4 is that I got one at a great price (an absolute steal), the engineering is superb, it's light, it's smaller, and it revs to 8250.

basherbarrichelo

187 posts

224 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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Scotty-Boy said:
There is no fascination, or a great comparison to be held with the LS7... the LS7 is a fantastic engine and is certainly more powerful than the Audi lump.

The only reason that I'm using the RS4 is that I got one at a great price (an absolute steal), the engineering is superb, it's light, it's smaller, and it revs to 8250.
Ok, you got your engine at a good price, but what about all the mods to put it into the Ultima, wont they be expensive putting your budget at a big figure, would it be better for someone else who hasn’t got there engine at a good price to go LS7.

When the engines in are you keeping the engine naturally aspirated or changing the spec for more power?

Scotty-Boy

532 posts

221 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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Only mod required is to move the engine mounts back a bit and make as new mount for the Audi transaxle... will cost me less than a tenner in materials and an afternoon of my own time!

Will keep it NA... the standard CR is 12.5:1 eek

LS7427ci

91 posts

220 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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LS7 engine are not what I'd call mega money either £5K ish for a crate engine delivered and for a built all singing all dancing: cranks, rods, pistons, custom cam, stand alone etc is about £6-£7K also delivered and punching upwards of 600-800hp

For those with a smaller budget run an LS2 450+hp change out of £4500 delivered, well worth the few extra ££££'s when your building the car also from a resale point of view!!!!!

Scotty-Boy

532 posts

221 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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Do the engine mounts require any attention for the LS7, or is it the same as the SBC mounting pattern?