Ultima Video
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crafty

Original Poster:

2,291 posts

266 months

Saturday 10th February 2007
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I havent seen this one before..

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCv6i-HxNLY

Pilot Pete

670 posts

247 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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Did you see this too
www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-cOjKz03D4&mode=related&search=
Z cars twin engine Ultima
I used to have one of there twin engine cars, too fast really, I've got some video's some where I'll try and dig out.
One thing to note inboard shocks mmmm


Edited by Pilot Pete on Monday 12th February 11:46

steve_d

13,802 posts

287 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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Interesting vid but it's been years now and we've still not seen it turn a wheel.
Think perhaps it's just a technology show piece that they have never been able to get working.
The vid says one engine drives the front and the other the rear. I thought this configuration was not allowed for road use.

Steve

V8 VUM

3,206 posts

250 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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One thing of interest is the centre console shown in this clip!!!

I did'nt know there was enough room???

If there was I would certainly have a go putting one in. I wonder what seats they used?

Must be very narrow!

Anyone tried doing this?

cheers

Keith

Paul.B

3,949 posts

293 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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steve_d said:
Interesting vid but it's been years now and we've still not seen it turn a wheel.
Think perhaps it's just a technology show piece that they have never been able to get working.
The vid says one engine drives the front and the other the rear. I thought this configuration was not allowed for road use.

Steve



Why would that config not be allowed for road use Steve? I don't know much about the Ultima but I had a long chat with Chris (Z-Cars man in vid) a few years back about the 4-wheel drive Tiger they did. Same engine config, (2 N/A 'Zaki ZX12's) only both engines mounted in a front engine bay! He explained how they dialed out serious understeer by using the ecu as a "virtual" centre diff. 50/50 power to each axle (100% from both engines) with no steering lock applied and the engine power to the front wheels decreased when steering lock was added. A sensor on the rack gave an input to the ecu which then reduced slightly the power from that engine. That was the car Tiff Needel drove on Top Gear, or was it 5th Gear? Only one car was ever built I believe.

Paul.B

steve_d

13,802 posts

287 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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I've not seen the regulation but read a thread where someone had two engines in a mini van. The statement there was that it was only street legal with one engine running due to some SVA or Construction and use type reg.

Perhaps the ECU controlled power split gets round the problem.

Steve

Pilot Pete

670 posts

247 months

Tuesday 13th February 2007
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It is legal it has something to do with the diff's or torque stear, I can't really remember, Chris from Z cars is from up north so I only got every other word

Pilot Pete

670 posts

247 months

Wednesday 14th February 2007
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crafty

Original Poster:

2,291 posts

266 months

Wednesday 14th February 2007
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where's the "beat the ass out of it" video

d3vine

699 posts

297 months

unclemark123

883 posts

237 months

Wednesday 14th February 2007
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z cars twin engine ultima is here......
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA0Bhr-ttgY