V10 beemer
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donkeasy

Original Poster:

636 posts

251 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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What do you think: Is the new BMW V10
the most desirable engine
for the Ultima at the moment?

Help me Guys, it's all very confusing.

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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that will completely depend on your point of view.

So will love the revs etc of the BMW, some will hate the torque and others will say an american v8 is much better.

It won't be cheap to fit either so its an expensive way to 500bhp.... personnelly having had a 500bhp SBC engined Ultima, I'd go for the BMW unit if I could afford it..... however there are other engines I'd choose before the V10, like the BMW V12 I'm using or the Audi V8.

bluesatin

3,115 posts

301 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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You will have fun getting the ECU to work in the Ultima!

donkeasy

Original Poster:

636 posts

251 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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ECU won't be a problem because I will use a KMS motormanagement system anyway.

The BMW V12 or MB V12 is also tempting you are right.

Please guys give me more reasons for either ones.

boomerkk

619 posts

255 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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donkeasy said:
ECU won't be a problem because I will use a KMS motormanagement system anyway.

The BMW V12 or MB V12 is also tempting you are right.

Please guys give me more reasons for either ones.


MB v12 *TT* would be amazing. It might be a tad too much torque tho.
Why not a huge hp American Speed SBC? Cheaper and a drop-in engine.
Already there's a few 700+bhp cars coming on to the scene.

>> Edited by boomerkk on Friday 17th February 23:41

donkeasy

Original Poster:

636 posts

251 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Thanks for the suggestion.
But I want to go the German way.

The MB 65 AMG engine is still available.
A BMW V10 for a bit more money is offered last week.

I still don't have the length's of these engines.
So I have to wait for that,

If anybody drives that kind of car please...

Thx Joop


pib

1,201 posts

299 months

Saturday 18th February 2006
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donkeasy said:
ECU won't be a problem because I will use a KMS motormanagement system anyway.

The BMW V12 or MB V12 is also tempting you are right.

Please guys give me more reasons for either ones.


Will the KMS be able to control the variable valve timing and separately controlled (I think) throttle butterflies?

Either engine sounds like a challenging but sublime engine option.

GTRene

22,431 posts

253 months

Saturday 18th February 2006
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donkeasy said:
Thanks for the suggestion.
But I want to go the German way.
The MB 65 AMG engine is still available.
A BMW V10 for a bit more money is offered last week.
I still don't have the length's of these engines.
So I have to wait for that,
If anybody drives that kind of car please...
Thx Joop

Hey Joop, if you realy want to go the German way(a bit more expensive but "reliable"
I would go for the BMW V10 unit because of the fine and smooth power delivery and the race sound at high revs(its saying more more more) also because ther are no superchargers or turbo's added to that engine so less to worry and less "unreal" direkt power...so more connected I suppose.
The MB 65 AMG is ofcorse also a very nice engine but its 12! cillinders so I guess more weight, it has a kompressor(when I remembered right) and I guess its somewhat longer then the BMW so more difficult to race with? but I don't now its hight or lenght or weight compared to the BMW...
Now if you where talking about that new 6.3 AMG V8 with around 500+ps also then its more hard to choose, the BMW more screemy race and the MB more can-am racy? anyway when you look at the numbers BMW and MB you noticed the ABC BMW is correct, and MB is not and BMW has one more strong letter the W so thats one plus for the BMW lol...
cheers and hope this helps with thinking of things you know but need some backups and loud thinking of others to make the real dissicion?
GTRene

>> Edited by GTRene on Saturday 18th February 19:07

G Man

4,053 posts

289 months

Saturday 18th February 2006
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I think a V10 screamer would be a great idea, how much does the engine cost

donkeasy

Original Poster:

636 posts

251 months

Sunday 19th February 2006
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I think the control of the variable valve timing
can be done with the KMS
The throttle's I will do with cable.

The MB SL65 AMG has 2 turbo's, 1000NM 650 PK.
I think I will easiely get it to 750PK.
Weight could be issue, but In either configation
it won't go over the 1000KG.
But the BMW could be 850 kg.
So that's with 500 hp (and a bit more I hope)
a nice machine to drive.
BMW screamer I love that word.

donkeasy

Original Poster:

636 posts

251 months

Tuesday 21st February 2006
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I had one offered for 20k euro's last week.
Thought it was too much and wait for one of 15K
Still have time, found out with the MB 65 AMG escapade
that not very much people are willing
to pay thet money for an engine.
Heard a rumor that there are more people willing to pay that for a car.